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  • dimelb
    pr. dim-melb; m not f
    • Jun 2003
    • 6889

    #76
    Originally posted by Mountain Man
    McGlynn is exactly what we need to compliment them.

    Nice that McGlynn is thought nice
    Anyone who compliments people is thought nice. Making up the side's complement is another matter.
    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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    • Captain
      Captain of the Side
      • Feb 2004
      • 3602

      #77
      Originally posted by Plugger46
      Why are you so confident that McGlynn gives us a greater chance of winning the Premiership?
      I want the best player on form picked, whether that be McGlynn or Papley. Last week McGlynn had the better game. Lets see what happens this week.

      Most people are writing off McGlynn rather then seeing how he goes against the Tigers. That is short sighted in my opinion.

      Also, when it comes to finals and grand finals, it's a totally different game pressure wise, that is when having years of experience under your belt monumentally helps. No surprise that most norm smith medalists have been the older players in the team.

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      • Industrial Fan
        Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
        • Aug 2006
        • 3318

        #78
        Our #4 could easily have had the norm in 2012.

        Fan of Mcglynn in general but I think he's cooked
        He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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        • Cheer_Cheer
          Regular in the Side
          • Jul 2009
          • 739

          #79
          I am not convinced that McGlynn is the messiah but would love to be proved wrong. It would be fantastic to see him awarded a premiership medallion..
          Who do we want to win tonight ? The Illegals or the Crows ?

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          • dejavoodoo44
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2015
            • 8728

            #80
            Originally posted by Cheer_Cheer
            I am not convinced that McGlynn is the messiah but would love to be proved wrong. It would be fantastic to see him awarded a premiership medallion..
            Who do we want to win tonight ? The Illegals or the Crows ?
            Before the stadium deal, Eagles (Illegals made me chuckle), as I rate the Crows as our major premiership threat. With the deal, Crows by a small amount, as a loss by another top four side, increases the chance of us playing a final at ANZ.

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            • bloodspirit
              Clubman
              • Apr 2015
              • 4448

              #81
              Originally posted by ugg
              Laidler firmly behind Marsh in the pecking order as I postulated a few weeks ago. It can't be purely form based as Laidler has been named in the best players list for the NEAFL the last three games and Marsh only once. Can't be experience as Laidler is certainly more experienced.

              I can only think Marsh's speed is the point of difference.
              Excellent post, ugg. I realise it's just opinion but it is a very pertinent one that gets right to the nub of things and backs it up with well informed analysis and, finally, offers a decent stab at explaining that which puzzles us.

              On another note: happy to be proven totally wrong about the selection committee's readiness to drop Towers. I have turned my back on 'Chef' since the Hawks.

              Fascinating selections. I'm delighted they picked Swampy and are backing youth when you know it's not something they do just for the sake of it. Similarly I'm certain there is no sentimentality in the decision to pick Benny.

              I feel for Laidler. No Shaw, no Jones, no Mills and he's still not getting a guernsey. Where did it all go wrong? It's worse than for Teddy because Laids isn't ready for the pension.
              All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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              • Bloods05
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2008
                • 1641

                #82
                Originally posted by bloodspirit
                Excellent post, ugg. I realise it's just opinion but it is a very pertinent one that gets right to the nub of things and backs it up with well informed analysis and, finally, offers a decent stab at explaining that which puzzles us.

                On another note: happy to be proven totally wrong about the selection committee's readiness to drop Towers. I have turned my back on 'Chef' since the Hawks.

                Fascinating selections. I'm delighted they picked Swampy and are backing youth when you know it's not something they do just for the sake of it. Similarly I'm certain there is no sentimentality in the decision to pick Benny.

                I feel for Laidler. No Shaw, no Jones, no Mills and he's still not getting a guernsey. Where did it all go wrong? It's worse than for Teddy because Laids isn't ready for the pension.
                My perception is that Longmire places a high premium on pace. Marsh has it, Laidler lacks a bit. I think it also explains his loyalty to Towers over the course of the season. I reckon he's been hoping Towers could become a real asset if he could improve his decision-making and disposal, so it was worth persevering with him, but sadly it hasn't really happened.

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                • Captain
                  Captain of the Side
                  • Feb 2004
                  • 3602

                  #83
                  So McGlynn survives for another week. Not cooked yet I guess.

                  Nice being right sometimes.

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                  • AnnieH
                    RWOs Black Sheep
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 11332

                    #84
                    I'm very disappointed Towers didn't get a run on Saturday... he's improved beyond all our expectations and deserved the gig.
                    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                    Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16787

                      #85
                      There will be a few players not sleeping well ahead of selection night for the first final. McGlynn has certainly popped his head up and grabbed a spot, after not looking in the best 22 for most of the year. With Mills a certainty to come back, there will be a few unlucky players who miss out. One of the Harrys is likely to make way for Mills, but I suspect it is neck and neck between Cunningham and Marsh.

                      It was unfortunate for Towers that the NEAFL team didn't play at the weekend, as he didn't get an opportunity to push his case for a recall. He'll still be in the mix though, and Papley might get anxious. I think Papley's better ability to put on forward line pressure might earn him the nod.

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                      • ernie koala
                        Senior Player
                        • May 2007
                        • 3251

                        #86
                        If they go on the Richmond game, it should be Cunningham that misses out...He was very quiet.

                        Marsh looks to have a contested style of play that will suit finals footy.
                        Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                        • barry
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 8499

                          #87
                          Richmond were so pathetic, it will be hard to base any decisions on that game, so I'd best ignore it.

                          In the final we have a few things to consider
                          1) GWS are a fast team. This probably leans to cunningham staying
                          2) ANZ is a narrow ground. Less space on the wings may make it more contested up the corridor. But long that favours leading forwards and slingshot footy.
                          3) GWS's Patton has come of age lately. Therefore they have a very powerful forward line. Lobb, Patton, Cameron and Stevie J. Our defense will be tested like never before. This leans to playing more experienced players rather than youth.

                          The richmond selections make me question where Laidler is in the pecking order.

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                          • Triple B
                            Formerly 'BBB'
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 6999

                            #88
                            Originally posted by liz
                            There will be a few players not sleeping well ahead of selection night for the first final. McGlynn has certainly popped his head up and grabbed a spot, after not looking in the best 22 for most of the year. With Mills a certainty to come back, there will be a few unlucky players who miss out. One of the Harrys is likely to make way for Mills, but I suspect it is neck and neck between Cunningham and Marsh.

                            It was unfortunate for Towers that the NEAFL team didn't play at the weekend, as he didn't get an opportunity to push his case for a recall. He'll still be in the mix though, and Papley might get anxious. I think Papley's better ability to put on forward line pressure might earn him the nod.
                            Unless he is ineligible to play for the seconds this week because the seniors have a bye, he will get his chance this weekend in a high pressure final. If he is ineligible, he will have been extremely unlucky...
                            Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                            • bloodspirit
                              Clubman
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 4448

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Bloods05
                              My perception is that Longmire places a high premium on pace. Marsh has it, Laidler lacks a bit. I think it also explains his loyalty to Towers over the course of the season. I reckon he's been hoping Towers could become a real asset if he could improve his decision-making and disposal, so it was worth persevering with him, but sadly it hasn't really happened.
                              I just read this article: Sydney Swans young gun Harry Marsh has right pedigree to succeed in AFL.

                              I take from it that the thing that has helped Swampy stay (or become?) relevant is developing more of an attacking game rather than just defending. Maybe this is what Laidler needs to do too and explains his non-selection perhaps even more than his lack of pace? Maybe this is something we see in Aliir that is partly why he is getting backed in over Teddy?
                              All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                              • Doctor
                                Bay 29
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 2757

                                #90
                                Originally posted by bloodspirit
                                I just read this article: Sydney Swans young gun Harry Marsh has right pedigree to succeed in AFL.

                                I take from it that the thing that has helped Swampy stay (or become?) relevant is developing more of an attacking game rather than just defending. Maybe this is what Laidler needs to do too and explains his non-selection perhaps even more than his lack of pace? Maybe this is something we see in Aliir that is partly why he is getting backed in over Teddy?
                                It's a combination of things IMO, all of which are a credit to the coaching staff, who quietly changed us after the Giants touched us up. Aliir is part of that, but Teddy was done after the head knock against Hawthorn in Melbourne so his emergence is a happy coincidence. The key driver to me is the need for greater pace out of the back half, something we lost when Shaw retired. Cunningham has added that, and Lloyd has shifted further back too, to enable him to have the field in front of him, which is clearly improving his disposal. As I mentioned in another post, this looks to have resulted in Rampe going to more of a man on man role, but he has adapted admirably.
                                Today's a draft of your epitaph

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