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  • neilfws
    Senior Player
    • Aug 2009
    • 1823

    North Rebuild

    North just announced that they're not offering new contracts to Harvey, Petrie, Dal Santo and Firrito. Seems pretty brutal and odd timing!

    Farewell our champions - NMFC.com.au
  • ScottH
    It's Goodes to cheer!!
    • Sep 2003
    • 23665

    #2
    Interesting.
    Take Firrito and Harvey out of last weeks game and we win by 10 goals.

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    • KTigers
      Senior Player
      • Apr 2012
      • 2499

      #3
      Wow, that really is brutal ! I'm sure Petrie knew it was coming, but the others.... re the timing : I guess it's to give fans a chance to say goodbye at their Etihad game this weekend.


      Originally posted by neilfws
      North just announced that they're not offering new contracts to Harvey, Petrie, Dal Santo and Firrito. Seems pretty brutal and odd timing!

      Farewell our champions - NMFC.com.au

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      • neilfws
        Senior Player
        • Aug 2009
        • 1823

        #4
        Originally posted by KTigers
        re the timing : I guess it's to give fans a chance to say goodbye at their Etihad game this weekend.
        Apparently so, says Brad Scott.

        I wonder if they're clearing salary space for someone? Maybe Jarryd Hayne now has a lifelong dream to play AFL

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        • mcs
          Travelling Swannie!!
          • Jul 2007
          • 8162

          #5
          Yawn at least Norf can smell the roses that, even with another finals miracle this year, the writing is firmly on the wall for their current team.
          "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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          • 0918330512
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2011
            • 1654

            #6
            I'd love to see Boomer continue at GCS or Ess

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            • KTigers
              Senior Player
              • Apr 2012
              • 2499

              #7
              Talk about a slippery slope. They were 9-and-0 this season, now four senior guys are cut and they look like being roadkill for GWS for their last two games of the season. Being a Swans supporter, it's a pretty comfy life compared to what other people have to go through.


              Originally posted by mcs
              Yawn at least Norf can smell the roses that, even with another finals miracle this year, the writing is firmly on the wall for their current team.

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              • RogueSwan
                McVeigh for Brownlow
                • Apr 2003
                • 4602

                #8
                Could be that the Roos are trying once last roll of the dice to get the team to "do it for their mates"?
                "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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                • Zlatorog
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 1748

                  #9
                  I'm not sure what the point is. Win or lose they're in the finals anyway.

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                  • dejavoodoo44
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 8583

                    #10
                    Originally posted by RogueSwan
                    Could be that the Roos are trying once last roll of the dice to get the team to "do it for their mates"?
                    Possibly, but if it is, then I suspect that it won't work. A more likely outcome, is that the other players, will feel a certain amount of contempt towards those who made the decision.

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                    • Sandridge
                      Outer wing, Lake Oval
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2065

                      #11
                      Not a huge Brett Harvey fan but general consensus in the media is he'd be in the top 4 or 5 of their Best and Fairest this year.
                      Seems very tough!

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                      • Triple B
                        Formerly 'BBB'
                        • Feb 2003
                        • 6999

                        #12
                        Originally posted by RogueSwan
                        Could be that the Roos are trying once last roll of the dice to get the team to "do it for their mates"?
                        Pretty sure, as KTigers noted, it's more than likely their last game in Melbourne this year so giving the Norf fanbase, all 500 or 600 of them, a chance to farewell some longterm players...
                        Driver of the Dan Hannebery bandwagon....all aboard. 4th April 09

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                        • Doctor
                          Bay 29
                          • Sep 2003
                          • 2757

                          #13
                          I get the other three, but I still think letting Harvey go is a mistake.
                          Today's a draft of your epitaph

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                          • goswannies
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2007
                            • 3049

                            #14
                            From afl.com.au today

                            NORTH Melbourne chairman James Brayshaw will be disappointed if Daniel Wells leaves the club, saying he hopes the unrestricted free agent takes into account how "unbelievably well remunerated" he was through his past injury woes.

                            Not sure how that club can request loyalty from it's veteran after recent weeks ... sure he was well paid for not much game time, but that's the risk the Roos took when they inked his most recent contract

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                            • Mug Punter
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 3325

                              #15
                              Originally posted by goswannies
                              From afl.com.au today

                              NORTH Melbourne chairman James Brayshaw will be disappointed if Daniel Wells leaves the club, saying he hopes the unrestricted free agent takes into account how "unbelievably well remunerated" he was through his past injury woes.

                              Not sure how that club can request loyalty from it's veteran after recent weeks ... sure he was well paid for not much game time, but that's the risk the Roos took when they inked his most recent contract
                              He's a silly boy is young James....

                              Thinking about the North re-build I think they have no choice but to follow the St Kilda model for a rebuild that will have them back in the 8 and challenging for a til within 5 years which I think will become the template going forward.

                              Step 1 - Draft out or unload any players over the age of 27 who has any draft currency. Similarly de-list or give away veterans (with some exceptions e.g Reiwoldt) that are on huge money
                              Step 2 - Go deep to the draft for three years at the same time frontloading required players to long term deals thus building a huge free agency war chest
                              Step 3 - In years 4 and 5 attack free agency along with your drafting.

                              At the moment Norf have pick 1 and 29 inside the top 60 draft picks and that is just inadequate to start a re-build.

                              The blokes that are there long term and who are integral to their next flag tilt are IMO the following: Zeibell (25 years old at end of 2016), Swallow (29 - an exception to the rule); Cunnington (25), Tarrant (27) Wood (23) Majak (25) and Ben Brown(24) and a few other I've missed probably

                              Lindsay Thomas has re-signed as has Waite. The four oldies are gone (Burrito, Petire, Del Santo and Harvey), Wells is looking elsewhere and Nahas and Ray have also left.

                              So they probably need seven in and replacing old guy with more old guys just doesn't make sense. So they have to generate some trade currency this season to get at least six picks in the top 30. I'd keep their first rounder for next year but I'd look at trading in an extra second rounder from 2017 and I'd find another fringe player to get another pick in the late 30s.

                              But, ultimately the only player with any real value on their list who should be tradeable is Todd Goldstein. GWS would readily trade Rory Lobb to Freo or WCE if it meant they could get their hands on Goldstein to partner Mummy. And GWS should be able to offer up Norf an early first rounder and a late pick in the 20s for Goldstein.

                              So, Norf now get picks (say) 7,11,25,29,30 and 38. Take their top 5 picks for the next couple of years and start challenging.

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