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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    #31
    Id hate to think that was true (umpire bias) but under the gill administration you have to wonder. What have we become.

    7th ranked team is hosting 1st by the way. How can they complain ?

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    • Blue Sun
      Senior Player
      • May 2010
      • 1440

      #32
      Originally posted by barry
      God i hope the swans smash the #sobrave's in the gf.

      I had the misfortune to be sitting in amongst a great swath of their unwashed last night. Ungracious, humourless morons.

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      Oh, and ther cheering whenever libba snr came on the screen made me sick.

      I was in disbelief that anyone would glorify that scratcher, even dogs fans. It was like cheering for george bush... jnr.
      Horrid people.
      The Dogs under Wallace were dirty. These Dogs are a different breed. Hard running and fair. Should be a cracking GF and our players won't be sniped like they would have been had the Giants got through.

      As for the umpires, I am a tad concerned. Nothing we can do though, just have to hope they call what is in front of them.

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      • 56-14
        Warming the Bench
        • Dec 2015
        • 260

        #33
        Originally posted by barry
        God i hope the swans smash the #sobrave's in the gf.

        I had the misfortune to be sitting in amongst a great swath of their unwashed last night. Ungracious, humourless morons.

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        Oh, and ther cheering whenever libba snr came on the screen made me sick.

        I was in disbelief that anyone would glorify that scratcher, even dogs fans. It was like cheering for george bush... jnr.
        Horrid people.
        I think you would have been in your element.


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        Originally posted by Blue Sun
        The Dogs under Wallace were dirty. These Dogs are a different breed. Hard running and fair. Should be a cracking GF and our players won't be sniped like they would have been had the Giants got through.

        As for the umpires, I am a tad concerned. Nothing we can do though, just have to hope they call what is in front of them.
        Couldn't agree more.

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        • drnicko18
          On the Rookie List
          • Apr 2015
          • 5

          #34
          Originally posted by Mel_C
          Well to be fair they haven't been in a grand final for so many years. I was also going nuts in 1996 when Plugger kicked the point!

          But it's a grand final so no sentiment from me. I want us to be ruthless! I'm just glad I don't have to sit next to Hawthorn supporters for a change.

          Sent from my HTC_PN071 using Tapatalk
          Yeah that was our "grand final" in 96 given how long it had been for us too..

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          • 0918330512
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2011
            • 1654

            #35
            Originally posted by barry
            7th ranked team is hosting 1st by the way. How can they complain ?
            Doggies home ground is Docklands & they'll be wearing white shorts. We've played there as many times as they have this year. It's a neutral ground at best. And, for all of the whining about the Grand Final being played there, it's contracted to be played there until at least 2037.
            Hope we don't have another 21 years of bleating about the MCG as the Grand Final venue

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            • 56-14
              Warming the Bench
              • Dec 2015
              • 260

              #36
              Originally posted by 09183305
              Doggies home ground is Docklands & they'll be wearing white shorts. We've played there as many times as they have this year. It's a neutral ground at best. And, for all of the whining about the Grand Final being played there, it's contracted to be played there until at least 2037.
              Hope we don't have another 21 years of bleating about the MCG as the Grand Final venue
              Great post - fully agree.
              But the "Pest from the West" wont let it rest!

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              • 707
                Veterans List
                • Aug 2009
                • 6204

                #37
                Great result last night on many fronts.

                The biggest though is we match up so much better on the Dogs than we would have on GWS. If we play like we have the past two weeks then this shouldn't be a repeat of 2014.

                Now to hope I get a ticket in the ballot so I don't have to stuff a thousand big ones into Etihad's greedy pocket. Driving over Friday from Adelaide and won't have a scarf anywhere near an open window on the way over, on the way back however? Let's hope :-)

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                • stellation
                  scott names the planets
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 9720

                  #38
                  For purely selfish reasons I would prefer the opportunity to be able to attend a grand final in Sydney if my team happens to win the right to be the home side- I've been down for a Grand Final, it was an amazing trip that I hope to repeat again in the future, but it was probably verging on unreasonably expensive to do (being purely rational about it!).

                  I've been to 1/6 of the Grand Finals the Swans have been to since moving to Sydney, I'd say I likely would have attended 4/6 if they were in Sydney (can't be bothered working out what number it would equate to for them to need to earn the right to host it) and didn't have the associated GF weekend price gouging of Melbourne.
                  I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                  We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                  • barry
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 8499

                    #39
                    Originally posted by 09183305
                    Doggies home ground is Docklands & they'll be wearing white shorts. We've played there as many times as they have this year. It's a neutral ground at best. And, for all of the whining about the Grand Final being played there, it's contracted to be played there until at least 2037.
                    Hope we don't have another 21 years of bleating about the MCG as the Grand Final venue
                    This will be the 3rd grand final where we, as highest qualifier, have had to play in the city of our opponent. 1996, 2014 and 2016. I didnt think much of the first two results.

                    I dont think its ready to be changed yet, but as we know stadium deals can be changed, but it needs to be called out as a distinct disadvantage for us at the same level as other so called advantages.

                    This is why brisbanes 3 peat easily trumps hawks. Brisbanes were all on the road against mcg tenants. Hawks were all at home against non vic sides.

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                    • stevoswan
                      Veterans List
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 8555

                      #40
                      Originally posted by barry
                      This will be the 3rd grand final where we, as highest qualifier, have had to play in the city of our opponent. 1996, 2014 and 2016. I didnt think much of the first two results.

                      I dont think its ready to be changed yet, but as we know stadium deals can be changed, but it needs to be called out as a distinct disadvantage for us at the same level as other so called advantages.

                      This is why brisbanes 3 peat easily trumps hawks. Brisbanes were all on the road against mcg tenants. Hawks were all at home against non vic sides.
                      Let's face it, stadium deals are not about fairness, they are all about making the league and certain associated individuals (you know who I'm talking about!) more money. While the Swans have had to fight to improve their lot with a full return to the SCG including finals (finally!!), when it comes to the GF, the league will always protect it's patch, hiding behind Victoria's love of and loyalty to, the 'G......and the fact that it is the best stadium in the country and the "spiritual" home of the game. Fairness to interstaters will not come into it.....but we all know, in a perfect world, it damn well should!

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                      • barry
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 8499

                        #41
                        I could see a day when the grand final is a series like american sports. It could be as simple as a 2 game series with first at MCG to help vested interests and 2nd at highest qualifiers venue for fairness.

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                        • bloodsbigot
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 813

                          #42
                          Originally posted by barry
                          God i hope the swans smash the #sobrave's in the gf.

                          I had the misfortune to be sitting in amongst a great swath of their unwashed last night. Ungracious, humourless morons.

                          - - - Updated - - -

                          Oh, and ther cheering whenever libba snr came on the screen made me sick.

                          I was in disbelief that anyone would glorify that scratcher, even dogs fans. It was like cheering for george bush... jnr.
                          Horrid people.
                          I'm getting a little annoyed at our own fans love for the Dogs. And their easy acceptance of defeat.

                          I don't think I'll get over this one if we were to miraculously lose. We'll never live this one down. Losing to an inferior 7th placed side would be embarrassing as hell.

                          If you look at swans history, we made a string of Grand Finals after 1933 and we lost them all. I fear that our readiness to lose will set us up for another 72 years of defeat. Never again. History will not repeat itself.

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                          • sprite
                            Regular in the Side
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 813

                            #43
                            Oh FFS - get over it. They won and earned their right to play in the GF, just like we have.

                            The conspiracy bull@@@@ is getting beyond a f#@##ing joke.

                            Some posters seem more like feral Richmond supporters that Sydney supporters.
                            sprite

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                            • Faunac8
                              Senior Player
                              • Mar 2014
                              • 1548

                              #44
                              During the home and away season the Dogs lost one less game then the Giants and two less then us. They play an exciting and free flowing style of football.
                              I posted right at the start of the finals that they were the team to watch.
                              And now we are playing them in the Grand Final any thoughts that they are inferior or don't deserve to be there need to be eliminated. They are however a team that , if we play to our best game plan can be easily beaten by the Swans.

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                              • Faunac8
                                Senior Player
                                • Mar 2014
                                • 1548

                                #45
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                                [QUOTE=Faunac8;711231]
                                Originally posted by sprite
                                Oh FFS - get over it. They won and earned their right to play in the GF, just like we have."
                                Yes they did they beat last years grand finalists and the team that owned us in the first week of the finals in three consecutive weeks
                                "The conspiracy bull@@@@ is getting beyond a f#@##ing joke."
                                Scary thing is that it's not a joke to many they really believe we are systematically discriminated against
                                Some posters seem more like feral supporters " edited for accuracy
                                QUOTE]

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