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  • AnnieH
    RWOs Black Sheep
    • Aug 2006
    • 11332

    #46
    Originally posted by stevoswan
    There was even more in today's HS in Victoria re: Mummy's 'apology', slating the Swans for being thin skinned (I believe no one at our club complained, the media reported it after Mumford admitted to the Giants hierarchy what he said!), and yes, some claiming that we're still the AFL's 'love child'.......it's sickening how deluded most Melbourne based fans are!
    Allegedly, Lance started it by saying something like ha ha sucked in, you got sacked so they could buy me.
    Mummy, of course, retaliated, and had to stand in the corner and say sorry.

    Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

    Buddy 1
    Mumford 0
    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
    Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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    • Sandrevan
      Warming the Bench
      • May 2016
      • 355

      #47
      Is Fitzpatrick really that vindictive regarding the Buddy deal? In any case, the COLA money went to the lower paid players as a way of offsetting the COL in Sydney. Buddy would get none of the COLA money.

      So, what is his agenda?
      If he wants to get GWS established in Sydney by throwing concessions at them he has already achieved that. Do you remember the rumblings from the Melbourne media when GWS flogged Hawthorn by 80 points this season.
      Can you imagine the howl from Maguire, etc. if GWS win the flag this year?
      And GWS still has lots of good young players and draft picks. What happens if they win next year too?

      Eventually, the concessions will disappear and GWS will have to survive like the Swans have to. Remember the concessions given to the Brisbane Lions to get them established. After 3 premierships these concessions disappeared and that was the end of the Brisbane Lions. Now, they're a basket case. Now, look at the Swans. From the start of the Paul Roos era we have missed the finals once. We have played in 4 grand finals and won 2. Along with Geelong and Hawthorn, most commentators/analysts consider the Swans to be a powerhouse club of the AFL.
      Give it time, good people.

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      • Mug Punter
        On the Rookie List
        • Nov 2009
        • 3325

        #48
        Originally posted by Sandrevan
        Is Fitzpatrick really that vindictive regarding the Buddy deal? In any case, the COLA money went to the lower paid players as a way of offsetting the COL in Sydney. Buddy would get none of the COLA money.

        So, what is his agenda?
        If he wants to get GWS established in Sydney by throwing concessions at them he has already achieved that. Do you remember the rumblings from the Melbourne media when GWS flogged Hawthorn by 80 points this season.
        Can you imagine the howl from Maguire, etc. if GWS win the flag this year?
        And GWS still has lots of good young players and draft picks. What happens if they win next year too?

        Eventually, the concessions will disappear and GWS will have to survive like the Swans have to. Remember the concessions given to the Brisbane Lions to get them established. After 3 premierships these concessions disappeared and that was the end of the Brisbane Lions. Now, they're a basket case. Now, look at the Swans. From the start of the Paul Roos era we have missed the finals once. We have played in 4 grand finals and won 2. Along with Geelong and Hawthorn, most commentators/analysts consider the Swans to be a powerhouse club of the AFL.
        Give it time, good people.
        GWS have the list to enter a 8-10 year premiership window and I'll be surprised if they don't win 4-5 flags in that period.

        But for mine it will be truly surreal if they do with their bunch of plastic fans and arrogant administrators. I know they had to give them every chance of success but they are just about to tear up well over 100 years of record books with a 100% manufactured success. Then again what else could it be for an expansion team. Even Brisbane had some serious runs on the board before their success and the "merger" with Fitzroy was a once in a lifetime bonus but still one that does not even come close to GWS.

        The AFL have invested so much money in this team they just can't walk away and destroy it as soon as it has some success (sound familiar?). But it is totally unworkable having the administering body also owning one of the competing clubs. Not so much when they are crap but totally unacceptable when they win the comp repeatedly (as GWS will) with an annual loss of $10m+ with no possibility of a profit.

        GWS will become the AFLs worst nightmare. The only solution I can see is for the AFL to sell GWS as soon as possible to an owner with deep pockets who is prepared to fund 10-15 years of losses and play the long game. Then again the AFL needs to be careful for what it wishes for because an IMG or a Chinese investor won't give a fig about the cosy little Victorian cartel and its illegal work practices and it certainly wouldn't put up with being treated the way the Swans have the last few years. So, really the AFL can only sell to an owners more powerful and with deeper pockets than itself which doesn't seem that appealing to me if I'm Gill the Dill.

        Strap yourselves in for a crazy few years

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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          #49
          Lol. Win 1 final at home and the world ends. They need to win 4 flags in the era just to match hawthorn. 3 to match geelong or brisbane.
          Many rivers to cross to ever get there.

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          • stevoswan
            Veterans List
            • Sep 2014
            • 8560

            #50
            Originally posted by barry
            Lol. Win 1 final at home and the world ends. They need to win 4 flags in the era just to match hawthorn. 3 to match geelong or brisbane.
            Many rivers to cross to ever get there.
            ....but easier with a very flashy boat!

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            • barry
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 8499

              #51
              If you seriously thing GWS are unbeatable we might as well tank the next few years for draft picks. In 3 years time we can hire paul roos to resurect us.

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              • Danzar
                I'm doing ok right now, thanks
                • Jun 2006
                • 2027

                #52
                Originally posted by Sandrevan
                Is Fitzpatrick really that vindictive regarding the Buddy deal?
                Originally posted by Sandrevan
                So, what is his agenda?
                Originally posted by Sandrevan
                If he wants to get GWS established in Sydney by throwing concessions at them he has already achieved that.
                If I am Mike Fitzpatrick wearing my AFL hat, and IF my chief objective is to grow AFL in Sydney, my agenda right would be to drive a wedge between the Swans and the Giants fan base.

                Think about it - Sheedy started it all with plenty of anti-establishment and anti-club jibes, but that doesn't create a rivalry. It sparked some club-to-club banter etc, but really, us supporters on both sides have really had no cause to complain thus far. In 11 games over four years we've beaten them eight times, they've beaten us three. Par for the course really. Now look at us we're pissed off at the Giants big time, and we're blaming media bias, AFL bias (at the highest levels), umpire bias and MRP bias. A bit more of this, plus a few more beltings/epics between the Giants on the paddock and you've got a pretty good foundation for a long-term rivalry. Particularly if we spend the better part of a decade in the Giants shadow and have to throw everything we have at proving that we're the legitimate number one.

                Or this could be BS and he's just a short sighted @@@@@
                Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector

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                • Mug Punter
                  On the Rookie List
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 3325

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Danzar
                  If I am Mike Fitzpatrick wearing my AFL hat, and IF my chief objective is to grow AFL in Sydney, my agenda right would be to drive a wedge between the Swans and the Giants fan base.

                  Think about it - Sheedy started it all with plenty of anti-establishment and anti-club jibes, but that doesn't create a rivalry. It sparked some club-to-club banter etc, but really, us supporters on both sides have really had no cause to complain thus far. In 11 games over four years we've beaten them eight times, they've beaten us three. Par for the course really. Now look at us we're pissed off at the Giants big time, and we're blaming media bias, AFL bias (at the highest levels), umpire bias and MRP bias. A bit more of this, plus a few more beltings/epics between the Giants on the paddock and you've got a pretty good foundation for a long-term rivalry. Particularly if we spend the better part of a decade in the Giants shadow and have to throw everything we have at proving that we're the legitimate number one.

                  Or this could be BS and he's just a short sighted @@@@@
                  I suspect that the vitriol coming out of Victoria will massively drown out any angst between us.

                  Yes, I know we're jumping at shadows a bit and they've only won one final but this list will be the most talented and deepest in the game's history. And it has the potential to make a mockery of the competition for a decade and turn the thing into a contrived result.

                  The side on the weekend effectively had EIGHTEEN first rounders (think it was pick 21 or lower). They'll go to the draft this year and take another 4-5 first rounders and then via their very astute trading strategy they'll do it all again next year.

                  And that team that belted us, and I mean they played us off the park, could well conservatively have 10-15% improvement in then next year. Of course they'll come back to the field eventually but IF the doomsday scenario unfolds, IF they become as good as I suspect they will then I think we will be seeing the greatest team and greatest period of dominance in the game's history. If you think we're pissed off how do you think the Doggies fans are going to feel when their best chance of a flag since '54 gets belted all the way back to EJ Whitten Oval by the side Demetriou created.

                  And I know we all think the Suns are the stuff ups here but don't rule them out either, they are just about to potentially add 6 first rounders to what is already possibly the best spine in the competition (7 if they trade Swallow as well)

                  And part of me is going to enjoy seeing the AFLs collective chooks coming home to roost.

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                  • Mug Punter
                    On the Rookie List
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 3325

                    #54
                    Originally posted by barry
                    If you seriously thing GWS are unbeatable we might as well tank the next few years for draft picks. In 3 years time we can hire paul roos to resurect us.

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                    I don't think we are in that boat but in all seriousness, if GWS DO become as good as I fear then a club like, say, Richmond should just give up the idea of a flag within 7 years and trade EVERY player over the age of 24 on their list that has any trade value. Bottom out, get the Pick 1 and 19, get your first rounders for Jack Reiwldt, Brett Deledio, Dustin Martin, Trent Cochin and Alex Rance and plunder a draft with six first rounders and then start to see the improvement in 2019. In many ways it is a lost opportunity that I think the Bombers have let slip by re-signing so many players that they could have gotten a first rounder for but they have had that experience of blooding so many rookies etc

                    It won't happen of course but if getting a flag was the absolute only thing then why bother the next five years if you're a club that far behind GWS?

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                    • barry
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8499

                      #55
                      No one really thinks richmond can win a flag in 20 years let alone 7.

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                      • Mug Punter
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 3325

                        #56
                        Originally posted by barry
                        No one really thinks richmond can win a flag in 20 years let alone 7.

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                        Good point

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                        • Velour&Ruffles
                          Regular in the Side
                          • Jun 2006
                          • 898

                          #57
                          Point of order. Isn't he a "lump of faecel matter" rather than a "piece of trash"? I've grown so used to the former proposition that I no longer know how to respond to the latter.
                          My opinion is objective truth in its purest form

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