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  • Sandridge
    Outer wing, Lake Oval
    • Apr 2010
    • 2083

    #31
    Originally posted by kilroyII
    I am sick to death of sledging being an acceptable part of sports in Australia.

    While funny banter is OK spending time thinking how low you can go and what boundaries you push on the field is typical 'straya bullying behaviour. We can thank our cricketers for making sledging OK.
    I've always though sledging was a sign of weakness. It shows you don't think you can beat your opponent on skill alone.

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    And this all begs the question:

    If a GWS / Hawthorn Preliminary Final eventuates, who do we want to win?

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    • Hotpotato
      Senior Player
      • Jun 2014
      • 2271

      #32
      Agree with Barry actually , the GWS game is history, nothing can change the result, move on bigtime and do what has to be done to beat the Crows ...
      Will not be good for our mental health to lose another final.

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      • top40
        Regular in the Side
        • May 2007
        • 933

        #33
        Originally posted by Bexl
        Sorry guys but I don't see a problem with that comment. Pretty mild.
        Anyone with experience having a mental health issue or being close to someone who has, would find to comment to be based on ignorance.

        Speaking generally about sporting sledging, it really should be limited to those who are both sufficiently intelligent and sensitive. In other words a high IQ and a high EQ.

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        • kilroyII
          Suspended by the MRP
          • Sep 2016
          • 139

          #34
          Ok so poor pikey lost an arm and if you were behind the team when this shot was taken, then you have been multiplied! Its a rush 10 min job but better than nothing



          Spread it people and if anyone has twitter post to the swans and buddy and include dumbford, i am sure he uses twitter...oh and GWS.
          Last edited by kilroyII; 13 September 2016, 08:18 AM.

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          • snajik
            Senior Player
            • Jan 2003
            • 1115

            #35
            A mental health issue is not that dissimilar from having a disability. A part of your body not working as it should. It is not ok to taunt someone with a mental health issue. However, having said that, if this account of what Mumford said is accurate, it appears more thoughtless than vicious.
            It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
            The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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            • kilroyII
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Sep 2016
              • 139

              #36
              Originally posted by snajik
              A mental health issue is not that dissimilar from having a disability. A part of your body not working as it should. It is not ok to taunt someone with a mental health issue. However, having said that, if this account of what Mumford said is accurate, it appears more thoughtless than vicious.
              Dumbford is dopey, the guy lacks any brains and is very lucky to be playing footy, let alone earning a wage of half a million bucks.

              Its interesting and maddening at the same time reading and seeing how older male supporters online dont think much of sledging someone about their mental health, while younger fans online can understand its no no and mental illness is a very serious thing.

              I think the older supporters should actually back away about this and learn that in these modern times race, sexuality, religion and mental health is not something you bully someone over and male depression is a real issue, not something you dismiss while telling someone to harden the @@@@ up over it, that attitude is exactly why we are trying to beat the stigma attached to mental health.

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              • kilroyII
                Suspended by the MRP
                • Sep 2016
                • 139

                #37
                Some of the comments online justify why I dislike footy fans first and bogans second. Blokey blokes saying nothing wrong with sledging someone about their mental health, that buddy should be the bigger man and ignore it and then implying that it was a drug rehab holiday and not a mental one, so it was fair game.

                I bet these stains on the underpants of humanity were massive bullies at school. All we need is a herald dumb article by Rita Paranah criticising those who find this offensive as the loony left and anything goes on the footy field.

                I think i will avoid the internet this morning, dont want to ruin my day.

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                • Matt79
                  Bring it on!
                  • Sep 2004
                  • 3143

                  #38
                  Very disappointing to hear that some people still feel in this age it is appropriate to sledge someone over their mental health condition. Times have changed.

                  And Barry with due respect to you...people can comment about this issue and not "move on from GWS" as the thread title is Buddy and Jack Taunted by Mummy so it's all on topic.
                  Swannies for life!

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                  • AnnieH
                    RWOs Black Sheep
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 11332

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Faunac8
                    Really I think the whole world needs a teaspoon of cement .
                    This remark is pretty mild in the scheme of things and no more offensive then referencing the promiscuity of a partner / mother / sister etc.
                    Josh went on the record last week saying that he wouldn't have an issue with sledging the Giants and when it happens to us it's all of a sudden offensive?
                    If that remark put Lance off in any way ( and I seriously doubt it did ) then he's got some work to do on his mental preparation for games
                    Originally posted by Faunac8
                    Does everyone understand what sledging is and what it is intended to do?
                    I don't personally agree with it but as long as it doesn't reference race / sex / sexual orientation or religion I think we have to accept it for what it is. An attempt to gain a mental edge over your competition.
                    You DO know you just contradicted yourself, don't you?

                    In your opinion, sledging can't reference race, sex, sexual orientation or religion, but CAN reference people's mental health issues.

                    Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                    Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                    • cruiser
                      What the frack!
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 6114

                      #40
                      Originally posted by kilroyII
                      Its interesting and maddening at the same time reading and seeing how older male supporters online dont think much of sledging someone about their mental health, while younger fans online can understand its no no and mental illness is a very serious thing.

                      I think the older supporters should actually back away about this and learn that in these modern times race, sexuality, religion and mental health is not something you bully someone over and male depression is a real issue, not something you dismiss while telling someone to harden the @@@@ up over it, that attitude is exactly why we are trying to beat the stigma attached to mental health.
                      As a 54yo male I take issue with this generalisation about older males. I suggest using the word 'some' next time.
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                      • snajik
                        Senior Player
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 1115

                        #41
                        Originally posted by kilroyII
                        Dumbford is dopey, the guy lacks any brains and is very lucky to be playing footy, let alone earning a wage of half a million bucks.

                        Its interesting and maddening at the same time reading and seeing how older male supporters online dont think much of sledging someone about their mental health, while younger fans online can understand its no no and mental illness is a very serious thing.

                        I think the older supporters should actually back away about this and learn that in these modern times race, sexuality, religion and mental health is not something you bully someone over and male depression is a real issue, not something you dismiss while telling someone to harden the @@@@ up over it, that attitude is exactly why we are trying to beat the stigma attached to mental health.
                        Maybe I have misread the intent of your post here. I think I quite clearly stated that it is not ok to sledge someone in regard to mental health issues. I don't like sledging at all. I equate it to cowardice.
                        It's very hard to live in a studio apartment in San Jose with a man who's learning to play violin. That's what she told the police when she handed them the empty revolver.
                        The Scarlatti Tilt - Richard Brautigan

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                        • kilroyII
                          Suspended by the MRP
                          • Sep 2016
                          • 139

                          #42
                          Originally posted by snajik
                          Maybe I have misread the intent of your post here. I think I quite clearly stated that it is not ok to sledge someone in regard to mental health issues. I don't like sledging at all. I equate it to cowardice.
                          I wasnt having a go at you or anyone on here.

                          I was commenting on the crap i am reading online and facebook.

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                          Originally posted by cruiser
                          As a 54yo male I take issue with this generalisation about older males. I suggest using the word 'some' next time.
                          Maybe, but the trend i am seeing is that older males seem not to want to adjust to modern times and feel the need to still throw their 1970s machismo attitude around.

                          Sorry if I offended.

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                          • barry
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 8499

                            #43
                            Originally posted by Matt79
                            Very disappointing to hear that some people still feel in this age it is appropriate to sledge someone over their mental health condition. Times have changed.

                            And Barry with due respect to you...people can comment about this issue and not "move on from GWS" as the thread title is Buddy and Jack Taunted by Mummy so it's all on topic.
                            Please. Mummy's comments are very light and barely sledging in the time-honoured tradition. The Australian cricket team wouldnt have even called that a sledge. In fact if Mummy was opening bowler and tried that on, he'd be "rested" for the next game, no matter how many wickets he took.

                            This GWS-hatred is starting to feel a little contrived.

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                            Originally posted by kilroyII
                            I wasnt having a go at you or anyone on here.

                            I was commenting on the crap i am reading online and facebook.

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                            Maybe, but the trend i am seeing is that older males seem not to want to adjust to modern times and feel the need to still throw their 1970s machismo attitude around.

                            Sorry if I offended.
                            How old are you kilroy ?

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                            • kilroyII
                              Suspended by the MRP
                              • Sep 2016
                              • 139

                              #44
                              Originally posted by barry
                              Please. Mummy's comments are very light and barely sledging in the time-honoured tradition. The Australian cricket team wouldnt have even called that a sledge. In fact if Mummy was opening bowler and tried that on, he'd be "rested" for the next game, no matter how many wickets he took.

                              This GWS-hatred is starting to feel a little contrived.
                              Seriously? Are you trivialising what is a low act and a serious issue?

                              Is that what you are really doing?

                              Or are you being a contrarian just for the sake of it?

                              Talk about cognitive dissonance!

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                              • barry
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8499

                                #45
                                Lol @ kilroy

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