G.F. Day Thread. Sydney V Western Bulldogs. MCG 2.30pm.

[dejavoodoo44]

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Just 3 or 4 according to that? Well, I could've found a few more. But I think the three sliding non-frees had a big effect. The first one, that led to a fifty metre being paid against Nick Smith, meant that the Bulldogs were able to halt our second quarter momentum, by going down the other end and kicking a goal moments before half time.
And by the way, did anyone at the ground notice where Smith's kick went? They didn't show it on TV. Was it sailing towards goal, or somewhere near a forward in a good position?
Though if there was no advantage, Jack going back to take his kick, would've put it deep into the forward line. If goal ensued from there, an almost three goal advantage at half time, would've put a lot of scoreboard pressure on the Bulldogs.
Also, if that and the sliding free against Morris had have been paid, that would've meant they needed to tone down their attack on the ball. Consequently, it is likely that Wood would not have taken Hannebery out and our best gut runner would have still been on the field in the final quarter.
Better stop now, before I switch to rant mode.

[dejavoodoo44]

All I'll say is they better not give Jeffrey or Stevic a game at the SCG next year - I'll be waiting for them at the Umpires race and will be telling them just what I think of their umpiring performance in the Grand Final

I'm just surprised they actually publicly released information about the review - as others have noted, there is no sign of a Whistleblowers episode this week on the website, despite a multitude of calls (several more beyond what is mentioned in that article) that could have been reviewed (and no doubt defended).

Typical AFL - what a load of bull@@@@.

Yes, and I think the AFL should take some of the blame. I mean, with Schmitt as emergency, it means that the AFL considers him and Stevic to be 2 of the top 4 umpires in the land. I'm not sure if any Swans fan would back them in that one?

[Sandridge]

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The annoying part for me is that after admitting that we got a bad go from the umpires, they then use our club's own words against us. Because our club doesn't want to be seen as whingers, we've been magnanimous and taken ownership of the loss. But then the AFL virtually says, "Yes, the Swans got shafted but they've said themselves it didn't affect the result." They use our sportsmanship to excuse and exonerate the sub-standard umpiring! Move along people, nothing to see here apparently!!!

[Meg]

G.F. Day Thread. Sydney V Western Bulldogs. MCG 2.30pm.

The one that cracks me up each time I watch it is the Clay Smith free. You can see Nick Smith (who stands the mark) shaking his head and obviously one of the Swans players asked which player supposedly offended. Because you can clearly hear the genius umpire say 'think it might have been you on the way through'. In other words the ump freely admits he didn't see it, he just guessed!! Oh gawd, and these were supposed to be the AFL's finest?

[Levii3]

What do you expect the club to say Jake the umpires got hard for the Bulldogs and screwed the Swans. C'mon!

[Velour&Ruffles]

Jake said the free would not have made a difference ....

Sorry but this is apologist bulltish designed not to tarnish the fairytale narrative. There were at least three goals which the Bulldogs wouldn't have got if the umpiring had been even vaguely competent - which it wasn't. Who knows whether the Dogs would still have won if they were 17 points down with 10 minutes to go rather than 1 point up? I can't know whether the Swans would have won, and Jake and all the other circle jerkers in the Melbourne media can't know whether the Dogs would have won - it is hypothetical speculation. But I sure as hell wish I'd been able to see what would have happened if the umpiring had been competent and the teams were playing on a level field. We were denied that opportunity. And I also know that psychology is incredibly important in football, just as it is in all serious sport. I am very confident that if the Swans were 17 points up with 10 minutes to go the dynamic of the game and the attitude of players on both sides would have been very different. Would we have won? Who knows? We'll never know what the result would have been, but we do know the green maggots @@@@@@ up comprehensively. They sure as hell changed the GAME - which may or or may not have changed the RESULT. Anyone who says we would have lost for sure anyway is just as much of a wanker as anyone who says we would have won for sure. But anyone who says that umpiring doesn't influence games is also kidding themselves.

[swannymum]

The only reason I found out about the official response to the umpiring was I saw it on Fox and on this forum. Nothing mentioned in the Fairfax website. Talk about sweep it under the carpet. Instead we get silly columns on the call of nature and Dale Morris.

[cos789]

What about what the players missed

Swans missed, bulldogs missed - that's football.

How many points did we lose by ?

The losing margin is basically irrelevant, as most were scored late in the game when the game has changed to one of desperation.
The Swans could have easily been leading at 3/4 time. I expected that and thought we needed that to go on win.
If the Swans had been leading at 3/4 time then we still could have lost but I imagine it would have been the best G.F. ever a REAL fairytale.

[Doctor]

Sorry but this is apologist bulltish designed not to tarnish the fairytale narrative. There were at least three goals which the Bulldogs wouldn't have got if the umpiring had been even vaguely competent - which it wasn't. Who knows whether the Dogs would still have won if they were 17 points down with 10 minutes to go rather than 1 point up? I can't know whether the Swans would have won, and Jake and all the other circle jerkers in the Melbourne media can't know whether the Dogs would have won - it is hypothetical speculation. But I sure as hell wish I'd been able to see what would have happened if the umpiring had been competent and the teams were playing on a level field. We were denied that opportunity. And I also know that psychology is incredibly important in football, just as it is in all serious sport. I am very confident that if the Swans were 17 points up with 10 minutes to go the dynamic of the game and the attitude of players on both sides would have been very different. Would we have won? Who knows? We'll never know what the result would have been, but we do know the green maggots @@@@@@ up comprehensively. They sure as hell changed the GAME - which may or or may not have changed the RESULT. Anyone who says we would have lost for sure anyway is just as much of a wanker as anyone who says we would have won for sure. But anyone who says that umpiring doesn't influence games is also kidding themselves.

This pretty much sums up how I feel too. I'm doing my best to put it behind me because it won't change the result but I still silently fume when I think about it.

[Triple B]

This pretty much sums up how I feel too. I'm doing my best to put it behind me because it won't change the result but I still silently fume when I think about it.

Sums it up for me as well. I recorded both C7 and Fox from 0900 until 1900 and then the full replay on Fox after that. When I got back to Sydney I just deleted all the C7 stuff. I sat down over the weekend to watch a replay and lasted until the National Anthem. I just realised it was still too raw. I'll watch it eventually, just not yet...

[Mel_C]

Sums it up for me as well. I recorded both C7 and Fox from 0900 until 1900 and then the full replay on Fox after that. When I got back to Sydney I just deleted all the C7 stuff. I sat down over the weekend to watch a replay and lasted until the National Anthem. I just realised it was still too raw. I'll watch it eventually, just not yet...

I did the same thing in 2014. Recorded all the channel 7 and foxtel programs and when I got home I deleted everything. This year I refused to record anything so I wouldn't jinx it again. Well that helped us didn't it...NOT!!

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[Hotpotato]

Sorry but this is apologist bulltish designed not to tarnish the fairytale narrative. There were at least three goals which the Bulldogs wouldn't have got if the umpiring had been even vaguely competent - which it wasn't. Who knows whether the Dogs would still have won if they were 17 points down with 10 minutes to go rather than 1 point up? I can't know whether the Swans would have won, and Jake and all the other circle jerkers in the Melbourne media can't know whether the Dogs would have won - it is hypothetical speculation. But I sure as hell wish I'd been able to see what would have happened if the umpiring had been competent and the teams were playing on a level field. We were denied that opportunity. And I also know that psychology is incredibly important in football, just as it is in all serious sport. I am very confident that if the Swans were 17 points up with 10 minutes to go the dynamic of the game and the attitude of players on both sides would have been very different. Would we have won? Who knows? We'll never know what the result would have been, but we do know the green maggots @@@@@@ up comprehensively. They sure as hell changed the GAME - which may or or may not have changed the RESULT. Anyone who says we would have lost for sure anyway is just as much of a wanker as anyone who says we would have won for sure. But anyone who says that umpiring doesn't influence games is also kidding themselves.

Why did the umps favour the Swans not only in the GF , but it seems throughout the season (+99) against all opposition.
Are they conned/blindsided/intoxicated by the rapid disposal and flow on play .
If so , the Dogs have worked out a way to gain a very important advantage.
They just get more likes.

[Velour&Ruffles]

Why did the umps favour the Swans not only in the GF , but it seems throughout the season (+99) against all opposition.

Huh?

[Hotpotato]

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[dejavoodoo44]

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