AFL?s review of Grand Final finds umpiring was not up to the standard expected

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  • dimelb
    pr. dim-melb; m not f
    • Jun 2003
    • 6889

    #61
    More on the umps tucked away in Tim Lane's article:Asking the hard questions of the Western Bulldogs' win for the ages
    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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    • dejavoodoo44
      Veterans List
      • Apr 2015
      • 8490

      #62
      Just going back to the article that started this thread, does anyone know if this is the only article that claims to know the results of the AFL review? I mean, when originally reading it, I had the impression that the journalist was preempting an official AFL announcement, but so far I haven't heard anything from the AFL about the umpiring?
      To me, the two main possibilities are. One: the journalist was just making crap up, which may be a reasonable assumption. Or two: they got it right, but the AFL bosses have decided that yes, the umpiring did unjustifiably favour one side and they really don't want any attention drawn to that fact. If this week's episode of Whistleblowers is still yet to see the light of day, then that may support that theory.

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      • chalbilto
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2007
        • 1139

        #63
        Sorry to bring up this old chestnut but the free kick count in yesterdays Dogs vs Saints match was 40 - 14 in favour of the Dogs! Is this a sign of things to come?

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        • Blood Fever
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 4040

          #64
          Originally posted by chalbilto
          Sorry to bring up this old chestnut but the free kick count in yesterdays Dogs vs Saints match was 40 - 14 in favour of the Dogs! Is this a sign of things to come?
          That is an astonishing stat - hope it is an aberration. Stirs up a bit of mental scar tissue.

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          • 56-14
            Warming the Bench
            • Dec 2015
            • 260

            #65
            Originally posted by Blood Fever
            That is an astonishing stat - hope it is an aberration. Stirs up a bit of mental scar tissue.
            The Saints still won.

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            • Blood Fever
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 4040

              #66
              Originally posted by 56-14
              The Saints still won.
              That's astonishing as well

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              • Sandridge
                Outer wing, Lake Oval
                • Apr 2010
                • 2049

                #67
                Originally posted by chalbilto
                Sorry to bring up this old chestnut but the free kick count in yesterdays Dogs vs Saints match was 40 - 14 in favour of the Dogs! Is this a sign of things to come?
                Their AFLW team got an armchair ride against the Dees as well, although the Dees just got over the line.

                And don't apologise for bringing it up - we should never, ever forget!

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                • neilfws
                  Senior Player
                  • Aug 2009
                  • 1818

                  #68
                  Originally posted by Blood Fever
                  That's astonishing as well
                  Not really. Free kick differential is a very poor predictor of result; there's almost no relationship.

                  I know, I know, no-one wants to believe this! But it is true. I'll post a chart some time

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                  • Blood Fever
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4040

                    #69
                    Originally posted by neilfws
                    Not really. Free kick differential is a very poor predictor of result; there's almost no relationship.

                    I know, I know, no-one wants to believe this! But it is true. I'll post a chart some time
                    I understand and can believe you re differential but 40-14!

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                    • ugg
                      Can you feel it?
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                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15961

                      #70

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                      • stevoswan
                        Veterans List
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 8543

                        #71
                        Originally posted by ugg

                        23 frees in the forward half.....and they still lost. Doesn't say much about there forward line....but it says a lot about the standard and 'impartiality' AFL officiating.

                        Round one will be interesting indeed.

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                        • Boddo
                          Senior Player
                          • Mar 2017
                          • 1049

                          #72
                          The 2016 was basically the beginning of the end of my love for AFL.

                          If it was Collingwood, Richmond or Essendon on the end of that umpiring they’d probably have had a royal commission into Jefferey, Meredith n Stevic.

                          If that was a Cricket World Cup final the First thing the media would have highlighted was the possible collusion between umpires n bookmakers.

                          But in hindsight I’m not surprised one bit, it’s the AFL where the game is run so amateurishly run sfa was done about it.

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                          • Blue Sun
                            Senior Player
                            • May 2010
                            • 1438

                            #73
                            Meh, it was a pre-season match. That will never happen in a home and away match much less a Grand Final..... oh, wait.

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                            • S.S. Bleeder
                              Senior Player
                              • Sep 2014
                              • 2165

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Boddo
                              The 2016 was basically the beginning of the end of my love for AFL.

                              If it was Collingwood, Richmond or Essendon on the end of that umpiring they’d probably have had a royal commission into Jefferey, Meredith n Stevic.

                              If that was a Cricket World Cup final the First thing the media would have highlighted was the possible collusion between umpires n bookmakers.

                              But in hindsight I’m not surprised one bit, it’s the AFL where the game is run so amateurishly run sfa was done about it.
                              +100.

                              I lost most of my passion for the game that day and I still feel naucious thinking about it. I can tolerate losing a game because you're outplayed or had terrible luck, but the pathetic or corrupt umpiring in that game changed the result.

                              I wouldn't be at all surprised if whistle blower came out over the next couple of decades stating that Gillon gave a brown paper bag to Scott Jeffery (or was it Simon Meredith)

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                              • Hotpotato
                                Senior Player
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 2261

                                #75
                                Notwithstanding the bias, even the members of the Swans team that day would admit they played reactionary, apathatic and lethargic football.
                                The Dogs were riding high on adrenaline after an amazing month of footy (and free kicks).
                                The game remains exhilarating.

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