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  • S.S. Bleeder
    Senior Player
    • Sep 2014
    • 2165

    #31
    Originally posted by WauchopeAnalyst
    The VFL has still protected their adopted son and will allow them to keep their top pick (2) to ensure a total 'Gun' goes to GWS.

    On the flip side the Academy boys might be more available or the Giants go into a big deficit for next year.

    Or might also have to sell a 'Gun' next year to recoup the points.

    Fun and games....

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    Yep, sell a gun to Collingwood or Carlton. Victoria wins again.

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    • yorlik
      Suspended by the MRP
      • Oct 2016
      • 10

      #32
      Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
      Nope, they deserve it. Two of their officials assisted a player in avoiding drug tests. Whether they like it or not, those officials are acting on behalf of their organisation.

      It's true what you say about the penalty in comparison to Essendong. Essendong was slapped with a wet lettuce leaf and had the AFL had any balls they should have been suspended from the competition for a few years. They conducted a systemic doping program, failed to keep records and their only defence was that it was conducted by a rogue employee which is utter crap.
      haha how could you ban a club that brings in MASSIVE revenue and allows the boys to douple dip? Thats not how corporations work!

      Everyone knows that if it had been a St Kilda or the brave dogs then those clubs would not exists at present and the whole fiasco would have been dealt with ASAP.

      I mean look at the home coming the bombers are getting. And i assure you the narrative next year will be about those brave bomber players coming back. The AFL expects a windfall with all those dumb bomber supporters buying up everything essendong related. Idiots the lot of them. "Mahhhh club is maaaha life and standbyhird"

      If the swans even dared to think about a doping program I would drop them quick smart. I dont support unethical behaviour regardless,

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      • Bloods05
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2008
        • 1641

        #33
        Originally posted by yorlik
        Respond to it however you want.

        You can continue to be a Victorian apologist and continue to allow the boys to royally screw the swans OR you can see past the bull@@@@ and be aware. I think you would rather walk around with blinkers on, its safer and a lot more fun when you plead stupid. But remember be a good little afl fan and pay your 1k a year memberships or else YOUR club will DIE!
        Yeah, nah.

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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          #34
          Jobe is a hero for handing in his brownlow. What a joke.

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          Poor jobe.

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          • dimelb
            pr. dim-melb; m not f
            • Jun 2003
            • 6889

            #35
            Originally posted by barry
            Jobe is a hero for handing in his brownlow. What a joke.

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            Poor jobe.
            Better to anticipate the AFL and hand it in on his own acknowledgement rather than be asked to return it.
            He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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            • barry
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 8499

              #36
              Jobes brownlow is an AFL pr exercise to make them and the drug cheats look good.

              Should have be stripped from him as soon as suspended.

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              • Bloods05
                Senior Player
                • Oct 2008
                • 1641

                #37
                Originally posted by barry
                Jobes brownlow is an AFL pr exercise to make them and the drug cheats look good.

                Should have be stripped from him as soon as suspended.
                Oh stop it.

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                • stellation
                  scott names the planets
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 9718

                  #38
                  Did Whitfield actually avoid a drug test? I get the argument is they conspired to avoid a drug test because they had a paranoid kid on their hands, but from what I can gather none actually eventuated?

                  I feel for Whitfield in this scenario, he's a young guy who made a mistake, owned up to it and reached out to the appropriate person in his club who counseled him poorly (but I imagine in a manner that is not unique to this situation, or club).
                  I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                  We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                  • Mel_C
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 4470

                    #39
                    Originally posted by barry
                    Jobes brownlow is an AFL pr exercise to make them and the drug cheats look good.

                    Should have be stripped from him as soon as suspended.
                    I was also amazed at how long it took for a decision to be made but apparently they had to wait for the decision from the appeal.

                    Hopefully this is the last part of the saga because I am over it!!

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                    • barry
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8499

                      #40
                      I hope fans boo the drug cheats at every game they play.

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                      • round 22 1977
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2016
                        • 10

                        #41
                        Gee I thought if you avoided a test you got the maximum penalty

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                        • stevoswan
                          Veterans List
                          • Sep 2014
                          • 8543

                          #42
                          Originally posted by stellation

                          I feel for Whitfield in this scenario, he's a young guy who made a mistake, owned up to it and reached out to the appropriate person in his club who counseled him poorly (but I imagine in a manner that is not unique to this situation, or club).
                          Err, no he didn't. His girlfriend did that for him by ringing Lambert or Allen who then went to him and so the cover up began........I don't feel sorry for him at all! He should take his medicine and thank his lucky stars he didn't get more.

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                          • liz
                            Veteran
                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 16733

                            #43
                            I don't buy the "I took illicit drugs but was worried they might be laced with performance enhancing drugs" thingy. I realise that's the defence that the two Collingwood players used too, and nor do I really buy it in their situation. Does every player now worry that the coke they sniffed or tab they dropped might be laced with performance enhancing drugs? I suspect not (though it might be the best way to deter players from dabbling in illicit drugs).

                            I also wonder whether he's had an illicit drugs strike recorded against him, as Talia did when merely found in possession of drugs. Whitfield seems to have made an admission (at least according to his "story") that he took something that falls foul of the illicit drugs policy.

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              #44
                              There seems to be a lot of parallels between Talia and Whitfield.

                              Whitfield took an illicit drug (allegedly).
                              Talia had illicit drugs in his possession which we was intending to take (allegedly).

                              Whitfield called the club to help him avoid detection. Dodgy.
                              Talia got busted by the cops. Guilty.

                              So Talia is an open and shut case with a simple guilty verdict.
                              Whitfield could be anything from nothing to performance enhancing. If it was illicit drugs, he in hindsight would have been better off going to the cops.

                              Quite a different penalty for both players though.

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                              • stellation
                                scott names the planets
                                • Sep 2003
                                • 9718

                                #45
                                Originally posted by stevoswan
                                Err, no he didn't. His girlfriend did that for him by ringing Lambert or Allen who then went to him and so the cover up began........I don't feel sorry for him at all! He should take his medicine and thank his lucky stars he didn't get more.
                                I haven't really trawled through the explicit details if there's since been an exact timeline of events, but I was (am) of the understanding he contacted his girlfriend after he'd already been in contact with the others.

                                Regardless of who reached out to Lambert and Allen, he's still a young kid who did something dumb and then was given bad advice by the folks he would have been told to go to for advice.
                                I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                                We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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