2017 NEW team list

[chalbilto]

I like Kennedy and not being disrespectful to him, but I would prefer Parker and Hannebery as the next co-captains.

[Billericay]

What about Johnson? Hopefully he should make a comeback next year and if he does he's in our best 22, surely?

I don't think we should expect too much of AJ in 2017

[bloodspirit]

I agree. AJ may play seniors next year, but it won't be in the first half and it will be a remarkably good result.

Likewise, I don't think it is very likely we'll play Maibaum next year in the seniors unless injuries force our hand.

I passed by the Swans training at Lakeside this morning on the way to work and I'm about 80% sure I caught glimpses of all the 4 new lads. Florent seemed to be buzzing, as you would be. He kept kicking a ball he was carrying to himself, if you can picture what I mean. The squad seemed to be happy enough to be out there in the mild weather and doing some fun barefoot exercises on the grass. The senior players still aren't back. It's funny. It feels like the senior players are only a minority of the squad. There was one player I struggled to place before deciding it had to have been Dean Towers when I saw him again. Maybe I got confused with Leonardis. He didn't look the same although there was nothing obviously different him. Actually, if there are academy listed players that we plan on rookieing, is it possible they might have been there? I didn't notice Mills or Hewett but I'm sure there were several players that I wouldn't have registered as I wasn't there all that long and some of them were quite far away. I was mostly curious to see the new recruits.

[Billericay]

This is what Gary Buckenara said about Hayward and Florent: "I wouldn't expect he or Florent to play much next year..."

[bloodspirit]

That makes sense. I reckon Florent will play a similar role to Hewett but is less developed. They are both a bit skinny and young and need to build up their frames and tanks. Nevertheless it would be great if they do get a couple of games.

[mattybloods]

Looking at that best 22 squad for next year it's easy to see why we didn't offer Mitchell a bigger contract, lots of midfield depth! We've also got players up forward and in defence who would excel in the midfield if given the chance

[Bloods05]

This is what Gary Buckenara said about Hayward and Florent: "I wouldn't expect he or Florent to play much next year..."

I hope his coaching record is a reliable guide to his judgement.

[Auntie.Gerald]

SNRS

Paps, Tip, Rohan
K.Jack, Bud, Hewett

Naismith
Kennedy
Parker
Hannes
Heeney
Lloyd

Smithy, AA, Mills
Rampe, Grundy, Jones

19. Macca
20. Reid
21. Laids?
22. Towers?


RESSIES:

Hayward, Cameron, Rose
BJack, Dawson, Murray

Sinclair
Foote
Robbo
Marshy
Cunningham
Florent

Leonardis, Maibaum, Newman
Oriordan, Talia, Melican

19. Pink
20. Edwards
21. Fox
22. Ronke

23. AJ guessing round 6 onwards
24. Fisher

[Ludwig]

List change analysis

We traded 2 players for draft picks. We got pick 14 for Tom Mitchell and in a pick swap ended with pick 9, which is probably closer to the tight value. We used that pick to draft Oliver Florent, an agile quick midfielder-forward. I commented many times throughout the Mitchell saga that I thought the club wanted Mitchell out in order to get more pace into the team. This was the next move in the transition which saw ROK and Craig Bird lose their places in the side. It will likely continue next year with McVeigh retiring. No doubt TM was a very good player, but is more suited to Hawthorn than to the Swans, given their respective player mixes. I feel confident that Ollie was the best pick available, although the mid and latter parts of the 1st round were very close in talent.

Darcy Cameron for Toby Nankervis seems a natural swap. It's too early in their careers to know how each will go when given 1st ruck opportunities, though it seem Toby will likely get his chance next season. For us, we are talking about the 4th ruckman. We run as deep as any club in ruck stocks, so no need to carry any more on our list at this time. We did well enough when both Tippett and Sinclair were out injured last year. No real substantive change here.

Ted Richards and Benny McGlynn were good players for a long time that became part of the natural attrition due to age and injury. They didn?t make that much of a contribution during the year. We have lots of young players moving up the ranks to fill their spots.
Xav Richards and Abe Davis ended their careers under unusual circumstances. Xav?s story was like the movie Awakenings, where he suddenly came to life mid-season only to fall back to his catatonic state at the end. Abe was a talented player who probably didn?t meet certain training standards, which is disappointing. I hope he continues playing footy and tries to make a comeback.

Derickx, Gallaway and Hiscox were just not good players and made no contribution to the senior team, nor had any prospect of doing so in the future, so any replacement has to be an improvement.

We added 2 high quality prospects with our 2nd and 3rd picks in the ND in Hayward and Maibaum. Both have good pace and agility and have every chance to have long AFL careers.

Sam Fisher seems a good replacement for McGlynn as small forward to support Papley in due course.
Ben Ronke adds to our midfield. He could play as a small defender if need be.

Robbie Fox started in defense and went into the midfield. He?s a serious contested ball winner and tackler.

Shaun Edwards is a talented elusive outside player who may just need another chance in the right environment. He?s still young, but can step into a senior role if needed.

Toby Pink is a speculative pick, but he is effectively the last player on our list. He is not without a chance. He has good height, has played well at all the KPP positions, can kick and mark the ball and is quite agile for a big man. He?s a big step up from Kyle Galloway.

Every player we?ve taken has good pace for their respective positions. The only senior player we lost that had pace was Benny McGlynn. Our 4 rookie elevations are all quick players. We should begin to see a different Swans team developing over these next couple of years. A team that moves the ball quickly and transitions well from defence to attack. Hopefully the new players bring the kind of skill set needed to make that happen.

[crackedactor]

This is what Gary Buckenara said about Hayward and Florent: "I wouldn't expect he or Florent to play much next year..."

Hayward's highlight reel looks very impressive and the word is he would have gone top 5 if not for his endurance levels. Evidently has trouble running out a full game. Lets hope our fitness coaches can fix that.

[Ludwig]

The Swans have the 3rd youngest list in the AFL.

GWS are now the 2nd oldest after WCE. North Melbourne went from oldest down to 17th, just after us. Brisbane is easily in 18th spot.

[707]

The Swans have the 3rd youngest list in the AFL.

GWS are now the 2nd oldest after WCE. North Melbourne went from oldest down to 17th, just after us. Brisbane is easily in 18th spot.

Are you sure about these figures? Think I'll wait until the official analysis in Champion Data's AFL Prospectus :-)

[longmile]

The Swans have the 3rd youngest list in the AFL.

GWS are now the 2nd oldest after WCE. North Melbourne went from oldest down to 17th, just after us. Brisbane is easily in 18th spot.

Wow would like to see these stats. Makes you think if we can make the GF this year we will be up to our ears in it for a few more years if all goes smoothly.

Furthermore I'd like to thank your positive and in depth analysis' of our new players

[Ludwig]

Are you sure about these figures? Think I'll wait until the official analysis in Champion Data's AFL Prospectus :-)

As per Draftguru website: Draftguru

[Auntie.Gerald]

Statistically you would say the GWS Giants and The Bulldogs are more balanced for their window of opportunity in 2017 but I say beware the Bloods