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  • wolftone57
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2008
    • 5857

    Originally posted by swansrob
    I think Rose shot himself in the foot by kicking three goals in a quarter on debut. Anything less now looks sub-par
    Rose was not convincing in any of his outings since that game. His tackles are broken and he seems to get out-positioned easily. The problem is that others are moving past him. Paps last year, most likely Florent this year and possibly even Hayward. If he plays the tall flanker he has to compete with Dawson, who has a huge bag of tricks when he is fit and tackles very well, Towers, Rohan & Cunningham. I'm not sure his game style is sustainable at AFL level. He's flashy and inconsistent. The only way he will make it is if he suddenly develops some consistency.

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    • aardvark
      Veterans List
      • Mar 2010
      • 5685

      Parker mentioned in today's presser "A few new debutantes" this week. He later mentions Fox, Hayward and Florent. He also said KJ would be playing this week.

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      • 707
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2009
        • 6204

        Florent yes, is clever and tough, deserves to debut given the gaps in our team.

        What about Melican, has looked very good in his last four games and after two years hard graft deserves a senior gig although its probably between him and Laidler who was solid in the ressies last week.

        Fox & Hayward look a long way off to me. Hayward does the occasional nice thing but no where near debut standard IMO.

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        • Ludwig
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 9359

          It's looking more likely than not that both Aliir and KJ will be playing this Saturday. We'll be taking a pretty good side into the match, albeit not quite our best 22.

          Tom Harley now has his injury update video up on the Swans website. Whether or not Cameron was in the mix is now a moot point as he is out with an infected finger .

          There are a couple of other positives on the injury front with Heeney back in training. I hope he's available for our round 3 match v Collingwood. Papley is listed as 2-3 weeks on the AFL injury list, so the rumours about a long delay in his recovery are yet to be confirmed and perhaps he too will be available to play senior footy by the end of April.

          I hope we select both Melican and Florent.

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          • 707
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2009
            • 6204

            Cameron, infected finger eh - playing with his Boxer dog?

            Gotta love the Pies, manage home grown distractions at the start of every season!

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            • Auntie.Gerald
              Veterans List
              • Oct 2009
              • 6480

              I say stick with Florent in the mix for now in the 22
              "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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              • mcs
                Travelling Swannie!!
                • Jul 2007
                • 8168

                Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                I say stick with Florent in the mix for now in the 22
                I'm sure Florent will be in the mix for the first few rounds. I've liked some of what I've seen in pre-season from him, but he has been raw around the edges. But who are we to doubt the coaches - rarely do they pick a player who they don't think can take the step up, and there is no doubting the talent of Florent from his junior footy.
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                • ernie koala
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2007
                  • 3251

                  Originally posted by Ludwig
                  I hope we select both Melican and Florent.
                  Me too...Going on pre season form, they would seem to be to most likely.

                  So with those 2 in, my guess for the R1 squad would be...

                  FB :Smith Grundy Marsh

                  HB : Mills Aliir Rampe

                  C : Hannebery Jones Lloyd

                  HF : Franklin Reid Hewett

                  FF : Jack Tippett Florent

                  FOL : Naismith Kennedy Parker

                  INT : Sinclair, Robinson, Cunningham, Melican

                  EMG : Towers Laidler Foote
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                  • longmile
                    Crumber
                    • Apr 2011
                    • 3367

                    Originally posted by ernie koala
                    Me too...Going on pre season form, they would seem to be to most likely.

                    So with those 2 in, my guess for the R1 squad would be...

                    FB :Smith Grundy Marsh

                    HB : Mills Aliir Rampe

                    C : Hannebery Jones Lloyd

                    HF : Franklin Reid Hewett

                    FF : Jack Tippett Florent

                    FOL : Naismith Kennedy Parker

                    INT : Sinclair, Robinson, Cunningham, Melican

                    EMG : Towers Laidler Foote
                    Like this a lot. Wouldn't mind seeing Cunningham out, also there is no way Sinclair plays. Towers in for Sinclair.

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                    • giant
                      Veterans List
                      • Mar 2005
                      • 4731

                      Originally posted by 707
                      Florent yes, is clever and tough, deserves to debut given the gaps in our team.

                      What about Melican, has looked very good in his last four games and after two years hard graft deserves a senior gig although its probably between him and Laidler who was solid in the ressies last week.

                      Fox & Hayward look a long way off to me. Hayward does the occasional nice thing but no where near debut standard IMO.
                      Agreed, Fox in particular had little impact in the pre-season games I saw - I'd be shocked to see him out there on Sat.

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                      Originally posted by ugg
                      He played the first one. The fact he played that one and none of the others suggests he's way down the pecking order at the moment
                      It's quite a fall from grace. If he and Sinclair are playing ressies that's a bunch of our salary cap in the magoos.

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                      • Ludwig
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9359

                        The latest injury list is encouraging as most are not far off returning. At least Heeney now has a time frame and Papley could be ready for the 1st NEAFL game. Rohan said he is expecting to return to senior footy around round 8. If KJ is good to go, I think we can cover the rest. Heeney is the next one we need to get back playing. It would be nice if he's up and going for the Eagles game in round 4 followed by the Giants. Those will be a couple of very tough games back to back and we go to Perth coming off only a 6 day rest, but to be fair, WC only have a 5 day rest, but now travel. We have a few 2nd and 3rd year players, mainly Melican, Dawson, Newman and COL that seem ready for an AFL debut and this period may offer an opportunity for them to get a game or two.

                        Last edited by Ludwig; 22 March 2017, 11:12 AM.

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                        • Blue Sun
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2010
                          • 1440

                          Originally posted by Ludwig
                          The latest injury list is encouraging as most are not far off returning. At least Heeney now has a time frame and Papley could be ready for the 1st NEAFL game. Rohan said he is expecting to return to senior footy around round 8. If KJ is good to go, I think we can cover the rest. Heeney is the next one we need to get back playing. It would be nice if he's up and going for the Eagles game in round 4 followed by the Giants. Those will be a couple of very tough games back to back and we go to Perth coming off only a 6 day rest, but to be fair, WC only have a 5 day rest, but now travel. We have a few 2nd and 3rd year players, mainly Melican, Dawson, Newman and COL that seem ready for an AFL debut and this period may offer an opportunity for them to get a game or two.

                          So, is AJ not expected to return this year?

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                          • Matimbo
                            Warming the Bench
                            • Apr 2009
                            • 334

                            Originally posted by Blue Sun
                            So, is AJ not expected to return this year?
                            From the AFL site's latest Injury List ... "and Johnson will be targeting the second half of the season for his comeback from a fifth knee reconstruction. - Adam Curley"

                            I think this is consistent with what AJ and the Swans have been saying for a while now. Can't wait for the moment he runs back onto the field.
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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              Originally posted by Aprilbr
                              I would be surprised if Talia gets a game given his lack of game time in the pre-season. Kieren Jack also looks very unlikely to play given his total lack of game time. Our small forward stocks for the opening rounds looks thin. Hopefully someone can step up like Rose.


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                              I was wondering about Talia too. Didnt see him mentioned in any game reviews, but he was on a list I saw.

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                              • Ludwig
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9359

                                Talia played in the first JLT game and both Neafl practice matches. I thought Talia would be a round 1 starter before seeing Melican, who has seemingly pushed up the pecking order behind Grundy and Aliir. His pace and kicking efficiency have been impressive. He could be the 2nd KPD revelation in 2 years. I look forward to seeing Aliir, Melican and Rampe working together in defence, which gives us quite a different look from years past. I don't remember us ever having such quick key defenders.

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