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  • 707
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2009
    • 6204

    #16
    Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
    Hayward has that X factor doesn't he

    He is seriously exciting for a baby faced assassin

    i also started to wonder whether he could rotate thru the HBF
    Big ask for someone who's always been a forward. They usually only make those changes when someone has had a preseason at it, like Mills did last year, was a midfielder but trained the preseason as a HBF.

    Despite my reservations, Hayward aquitted himself very well against serious opposition. Looks a winner as does Florent albeit they are both very young and underdeveloped. Nice work recruiters.

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    • aguy
      Senior Player
      • Mar 2014
      • 1324

      #17
      I'm also for minimal changes from last week. I'm liking the overhead marking of Cameron and which neither Sinclair now Tippett nor Naismith are great at.

      Out Tippett.
      In Cameron.

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      • Joel Ridge
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Feb 2017
        • 82

        #18
        I would go Sinclair. Better ruck than Cameron and can kick goals.

        I would predict that this would be the last game before a general soreness break for Florent.

        Still 18 and it's hard to maintain effectiveness unless freshened up every 3 to 4 weeks.

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        • S.S. Bleeder
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2014
          • 2165

          #19
          Originally posted by aguy
          I'm also for minimal changes from last week. I'm liking the overhead marking of Cameron and which neither Sinclair now Tippett nor Naismith are great at.

          Out Tippett.
          In Cameron.
          I agree. Naismith is the main ruck. The player coming in for Tippett should be a ruck/fwd. Sinclair has shown that he can't take a grab. Give Cameron a go. The club might err on the side of caution however and go with the experienced player.

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          • 707
            Veterans List
            • Aug 2009
            • 6204

            #20
            Originally posted by Joel Ridge
            I would predict that this would be the last game before a general soreness break for Florent.

            Still 18 and it's hard to maintain effectiveness unless freshened up every 3 to 4 weeks.
            Doubt he'll get a rest until an injured player is ready to return as there is no one performing strongly enough in the NEAFL to push him out and they have a bye this week.

            But agree he and Hayward as first year players will be managed. Heeney and Mills were slightly different in their debut year as they had come out of the more intense academy training program and not having to wait for the ND, I fairly sure they did full preseasons as "auto" selections to the Swans.

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            • RogueSwan
              McVeigh for Brownlow
              • Apr 2003
              • 4602

              #21
              Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
              I agree. Naismith is the main ruck. The player coming in for Tippett should be a ruck/fwd. Sinclair has shown that he can't take a grab. Give Cameron a go. The club might err on the side of caution however and go with the experienced player.
              I realise stats don't always paint an accurate picture (especially with factoring ToG) but last year Tippo averaged 2.9 marks/game, Sinclair 2.8 (down from 4.2 with Weagles) and Naismith 2. Sinclair, I believe, has the potential to be a good fwd/ruck but has had a @@@@ run with injuries.
              The problem I see in the ruck is that we have more fwd/ruck (Tippo, Sinclair, Cameron) than ruck/fwd (Naismith and last year Nankervis). But then again what do I know :-)
              "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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              • bloodspirit
                Clubman
                • Apr 2015
                • 4448

                #22
                Good post, Rogue!

                Only I think Tippo and Sinkers are perfectly serviceable rucks, albeit without being brilliant. Hopefully Cameron is or will become the same with a bit more tutelage.
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                • Mr Magoo
                  Senior Player
                  • May 2008
                  • 1255

                  #23
                  Papers are suggesting sinclair will get the nod

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                  • Joel Ridge
                    Suspended by the MRP
                    • Feb 2017
                    • 82

                    #24
                    Originally posted by 707
                    Doubt he'll get a rest until an injured player is ready to return as there is no one performing strongly enough in the NEAFL to push him out and they have a bye this week.

                    But agree he and Hayward as first year players will be managed. Heeney and Mills were slightly different in their debut year as they had come out of the more intense academy training program and not having to wait for the ND, I fairly sure they did full preseasons as "auto" selections to the Swans.
                    Heeney in his 1st season had a knee injury that kept him out for weeks and gave him a break. Even last season Heeney needed a mid season break to rediscover his sparkling early season form.

                    Mills got a break from memory last season against the Gold Coast in those wet conditions. He sustained a soft tissue injury late last year, which may or may not been due to a long first season. I think playing half back is less physically demanding than playing the forward pressure roles that Florent and Haywood are playing now.

                    Resting older players can be beneficial as well. Terry Venebles the famours Soccer coach once sent his star striker Garry Liniker on a two week midseason break to Spain to freshen up. He was not scoring goals before his break and the coach realised he was exhausted after years of club and national duty in the summer. When he came back from his break he could not stop scoring goals.

                    Why not do the same with a Parker, Kennedy or Hannas if they are looking tired midseason. Give one of them the week off before the buy week and send them on holiday. Hannas could go to Vegas with some mates, Parker could go on a surfing trip and Kennedy could visit his partners family. I would be very confident that if you gave these guys some decent time off to mentally refresh then they would come back in sparkling form at the back end of the season. You could only do it with one of them at a time.

                    I will get the chorus saying there professional athletes and should be able to cope. Well how many of these posters have had to put their own bodies through what Kennedy, Parker or Hannas endure.

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                    • bloodspirit
                      Clubman
                      • Apr 2015
                      • 4448

                      #25
                      ugg, it's time to put us out of our misery. Will it be Sinclair?
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                      • Dosser
                        Just wild about Harry
                        • Mar 2011
                        • 1833

                        #26
                        Originally posted by bloodspirit
                        ugg, it's time to put us out of our misery. Will it be Sinclair?
                        Ugg hasnt finished selecting the team yet.

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                        • jono2707
                          Goes up to 11
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 3326

                          #27
                          I think Sinclair will have the slight edge as he could probably (hopefully) run with Brodie Grundy reasonably well. We need to try to negate Grundy as much as possible.

                          Also, playing two inexperienced ruckmen will probably be seen as a bit much of a risk by the match committee this week.

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                          • Hotpotato
                            Senior Player
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 2285

                            #28
                            And who are you tipping Ugg?

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                            • gumby_bolts
                              Warming the Bench
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 255

                              #29
                              I believe Ugg is overseas at the moment so we might not get the inside mail this time. Neil Cordy believes its Sinclair who will be picked.

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                              • swansrob
                                Senior Player
                                • May 2009
                                • 1265

                                #30
                                This article says Sinclair has got the nod, but doesn't elaborate on how they've come to that conclusion
                                CALLUM Sinclair looks to have won the battle with draftee Darcy Cameron for the back-up ruck spot in Sydney’s crunch game against Collingwood at the SCG on Friday night.

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