Changes for Round 4 - West Coast

[Sandrevan]

The West Coke Eagles were beaten by Richmond in Melbourne and now have a 5 day turn-around before they play us. On the other hand, we have a 6 day turn-around and have to fly to Perth. WCEs previous game was St Kilda at home and they got a huge free kick advantage. They home ground advantage was well discussed. So, what do we expect this time around?

Even though we need Heeney badly it would be a mistake to bring him back in before he's ready particularly at this stage of the season; same with Papley.

I haven't decided on my ins / outs yet.

[wolftone57]

Give them a break - it was a one point loss with so many players with so little experience, big jump from the NEAFL and don't forget being in finals every year means no high draft picks. This team of newbies has lost by 38, 23 and 1 point, personally I believe that to be quite an achievment. At least we are competitive.

I agree. Too many people here have not experienced many Swans losses. They were either not around in the bad old days or forget they ever existed. This team of kids have not had the benefit of experienced players performing at top AFL standard like the boys last year. In fact they seem to have had to make their own way while our experienced players find their form. Give them a break it is them who are doing the job under very stressful circumstances.

[MattW]

Harley ruled Heeney out in his injury report interview today. Papley possible but unlikely. Tippett likely.

Given that and who is in the reserves, I doubt it'll be anything other than swapping the ruckmen. Tempted to conclude Dawson isn't ready and Rose might be a reasonable alternative, but reckon Dawson will be given a chance to improve his intensity this week.

[mcs]

Harley ruled Heeney out in his injury report interview today. Papley possible but unlikely. Tippett likely.

Given that and who is in the reserves, I doubt it'll be anything other than swapping the ruckmen. Tempted to conclude Dawson isn't ready and Rose might be a reasonable alternative, but reckon Dawson will be given a chance to improve his intensity this week.

I hope they give Dawson another chance - Subiaco may suit him, being a longer ground, and thus (at least in theory) may encourage us to play with some more structure, especially going forward. His best work in reserves that I have seen is when he can play off a half forward flank, and make use of the booming kick he has.

[707]

Tippett in, Sinclair out is the only change unless they want to try Edwards in place of Foote.

Subiaco, rabid crowd - expect a reaming from the umps, frees against in front of goals at pivotal moments!

[Auntie.Gerald]

Ins: Cunningham, Cameron (unless tippo right to go)
Out: foote, sinclair

Foote does not have his decision making at AFL level as yet.......

[waswan]

Sinclair, Foote Out
Tippo, Edwards, wasn't he supposed to be a good pickup and yet he cant get a game in a team so young ???

Also what about Talia ?

Given the current age/exp of our team I don't think it is too big a deal playing guys thru the 1s instead of the NEAFL
If Papley was picked all he would need to do is get in 12 times and lay 3 tackles and he would be ahead of most of our kids.
Same goes with Rohan, Heeney etc. NEAFL is top grade amateurs at best, far from the VFL, if they are fit, id play them

[707]

Ins: Cunningham, Cameron (unless tippo right to go)
Out: foote, sinclair.......

How could you entertain thoughts of Cunningham? Has done little recently and was very average in the NEAFL last week. Is not the future and is not the now, bringing him back doesn't change our fortune. Sorry, has the tools but unless he seriously redesigns his game he doesn't get another seniors gig for mine. Would rather get time and development into kids during these losses.

Foote is a long way off seniors, doesn't get the ball enough and horrendous panicky decision making, long way to go and also prefer other kids with more skills, was it Fisher who was very good and reported showed class in the NEAFL last week?

[mcs]

How could you entertain thoughts of Cunningham? Has done little recently and was very average in the NEAFL last week. Is not the future and is not the now, bringing him back doesn't change our fortune. Sorry, has the tools but unless he seriously redesigns his game he doesn't get another seniors gig for mine. Would rather get time and development into kids during these losses.

Foote is a long way off seniors, doesn't get the ball enough and horrendous panicky decision making, long way to go and also prefer other kids with more skills, was it Fisher who was very good and reported showed class in the NEAFL last week?

Fisher is a rookie however, so he won't be coming in.

[mattybloods]

We took Edwards off the Rookie list and he's had 2 good games in the NEAFL, hope he gets his chance this week

[Mug Punter]

Sinclair, Foote Out
Tippo, Edwards, wasn't he supposed to be a good pickup and yet he cant get a game in a team so young ???

Also what about Talia ?

Given the current age/exp of our team I don't think it is too big a deal playing guys thru the 1s instead of the NEAFL
If Papley was picked all he would need to do is get in 12 times and lay 3 tackles and he would be ahead of most of our kids.
Same goes with Rohan, Heeney etc. NEAFL is top grade amateurs at best, far from the VFL, if they are fit, id play them

I think NEAFL is better than you give it credit for and will improve strongly over the next 5 years too.

Agree re bringing the players straight in though

[707]

I think NEAFL is better than you give it credit for and will improve strongly over the next 5 years too....

SANFL is generally considered to be as good as VFL, Crows & Power save SANFL sides who when near full strength are in the top four sides. NEAFL with four AFL reserves sides must be considered similar at the top but has too many low standard, Apsley excepted.

That said, their is a significant step up from NEAFL to AFL level, hardness of bodies, pace of game and pressure are well up and that's what finds out the likes of Foote who looks good at NEAFL level but woeful at AFL level where decisions have to be instantaneous and skills very good.

[rb4x]

This is according to Horse:

The Sydney Swans will have a decision to make ahead of their trip to Perth with injured duo Tom Papley and Gary Rohan set to be available for selection.
Both players will come off the long-term injury list this week making them available for selection should the match committee deem they are fit to play.

I can't see the sense of taking these two off the LTIL this week as neither are likely to go to Perth and it would mean either Edwards or Fox would have to return the rookie list as Johnson would be our only player left on the LTIL. It will mean that either Edwards or Fox will not be available for the GWS game and limits our ability to look at other rookies like Melican or O'Riordan.
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[Markwebbos]

Horse also said: "We're not just in the habit of giving games to the young kids for the sake of getting their numbers up, and we still think there's a couple more that could come in as well."

Could be yet more surprises / debutants to come.

[Auntie.Gerald]

How could you entertain thoughts of Cunningham? Has done little recently and was very average

Lol
Sorry 707
Bwahahaha

I thru in harryC to see what reaction I would get

In:
Cameron so the catches stick and we get goals
Edwards for me if he is ready

We need the counter punch from our backs and although we are adding more quality kickers in the backline I felt having jones go back a lot last weekend weakened our midfield and we need TRUE run and carry player in our 22 like yesterday !!!!!

Otherwise keep persisting with blooding the new talent as they will be with us for a few seasons and the downside right now short term is minimal for an away game 0-3 and still 7 or so key players out

The win has to come from our leaders dominating effectively