Round 2: Sydney Swans Reserves v Southport Sharks @ Blacktown

[Nico]

How come Talia was good enough for round one last year but with all our injuries and needing defensive players he cannot get a game.

Papers stamped perhaps.

[Boddo]

How come Talia was good enough for round one last year but with all our injuries and needing defensive players he cannot get a game.

Got caught obtaining drugs down an alley while on the LTI list. Will have to string more than a few good games together to get another chance.

[Auntie.Gerald]

Re talia not picked and the same for laids

I think it is simply the speed that our backs need to compete denies him a spot

Speed physically and between the ears

We needed play makers and runners flying out of the backs

We need give and go players that can flood forward and can most importantly go with the small forwards when they break thru our zone defence

[Ludwig]

Below are Inside Football's ratings for the first 6 games for Talia's 2015 season with the Bulldogs. It sounds pretty good. The rest of the season was mixed, he was dropped twice then injured toward the end. Talia is capable of doing a decent job, but has been inconsistent. I'm not sure what the state of play is with him this year. He didn't have much to do in this game as the ball hardly entered out defence, which could explain a lack of interest.

I see him as a possible replacement for Grundy, but if AJ returns, and both Melican and Maibaum develop well, then there may not be a place for him.

2015 Season

Played for : Western Bulldogs

1 WCE Did a fine job on the dangerous Kennedy, which was pivotal to the victory. 8
2 Rich Claimed second scalp in as many weeks by taking Riewoldt to the cleaners. 7
3 Haw Had the hardest job of all on Roughead. Stuck to it and won a share of footy. 5
4 Adel Matched up on Walker and did his job. 5
5 Syd Had job on Franklin (three goals) but he did a reasonable job. 6
6 StK Excelled down back apart from being run down once. Decent work. 6

[ugg]

Pink 17d 8m 3t 5i50 6.0
Jack 34d 8m 2t 9i50 0.1
Rose 22d 9m 3.2
Fisher 34d 5m 2t 4i50 5r50 1.1
Edwards 23d 2m 8t 4i50 1.1
Towers 29d 7m 5t 4i50 2r50
Cameron 20d 8m 3t 22ho
Cunningham 25d 4m 2t 7i50 3r50 2.0
O'Riordan 17d 5m 4t 4r50 1.0
Gowers 23d 7m
Leonardis 19d 5m 3i50 2r50 1.0
Laidler 22d 5m 2i50 5r50
Murray 15d 5m 3i50 2.0
Talia 17d 5m 4r50
Maibaum 12d 5m 2i50 0.1
Melican 13d 3m 2r50

[mcs]

Pink 17d 8m 3t 5i50 6.0
Jack 34d 8m 2t 9i50 0.1
Rose 22d 9m 3.2
Fisher 34d 5m 2t 4i50 5r50 1.1
Edwards 23d 2m 8t 4i50 1.1
Towers 29d 7m 5t 4i50 2r50
Cameron 20d 8m 3t 22ho
Cunningham 25d 4m 2t 7i50 3r50 2.0
O'Riordan 17d 5m 4t 4r50 1.0
Gowers 23d 7m
Leonardis 19d 5m 3i50 2r50 1.0
Laidler 22d 5m 2i50 5r50
Murray 15d 5m 3i50 2.0
Talia 17d 5m 4r50
Maibaum 12d 5m 2i50 0.1
Melican 13d 3m 2r50

Those are some really solid stats for Sam Fisher- he impressed me yesterday. Good numbers for BJ as well, but I wasn't super sold on his work in the front half. May be enough to get him another crack at seniors however, especially given we are playing at Subiaco.

[ugg]

Sydney
Goal Kickers: T. Pink 6, J. Rose 3, S. Murray 2, H. Cunningham 2, A. Kinasch, S. Fisher, S. Barkley, C. O''Riordan, S. Edwards, J. Stapleton, T. Leonardis
Best Players: B. Jack, S. Fisher, H. Cunningham, T. Pink, L. Melican, J. Rose
Southport
Goal Kickers: J. Holland, M. Fowler, D. Mutu
Best Players: J. Keras, A. Boston, A. McKenzie

[liz]

Don't underestimate how ordinary Southport was yesterday. As I wrote earlier in the thread, their team is packed with tall, strongly built players and they had a swagger about them that suggested they might be a decent opponent. But after the first few minutes they barely put up any resistance. The contrast with the Lions team that comfortably outplayed the same Swans outfit last week was stark. And the Swans team of, say, a couple of seasons back would have beaten them by 200, not 100.

I did enjoy the performances of a handful of the top-ups. They were all pretty reasonable and got involved far more than last week. But I mentally jotted down 57, 50 and 53 who did a few things that caught my eye. When I later checked the numbers I found that 57 was Robertson and 53 Barkley. But, unless I am going blind, I can't see a number 50 listed on the team sheet. He was a tall, lanky chap with a mop of blond curls on the top of his head.

[Scottee]

Don't underestimate how ordinary Southport was yesterday. As I wrote earlier in the thread, their team is packed with tall, strongly built players and they had a swagger about them that suggested they might be a decent opponent. But after the first few minutes they barely put up any resistance. The contrast with the Lions team that comfortably outplayed the same Swans outfit last week was stark. And the Swans team of, say, a couple of seasons back would have beaten them by 200, not 100.

I did enjoy the performances of a handful of the top-ups. They were all pretty reasonable and got involved far more than last week. But I mentally jotted down 57, 50 and 53 who did a few things that caught my eye. When I later checked the numbers I found that 57 was Robertson and 53 Barkley. But, unless I am going blind, I can't see a number 50 listed on the team sheet. He was a tall, lanky chap with a mop of blond curls on the top of his head.

The curse of the NEAFL. So hard to guage form.

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[Ludwig]

We know that Towers and Cunningham can perform well enough in the reserves, but they have also shown their weaknesses at senior level. I would put them on ball 100% game time with no breaks. It's the only hope of getting any improvement out of them, even though it's a long shot.

BJ gets plenty of ball, but still makes poor decisions and doesn't use it well. He always seems to get in the Bests, but I can't see him moving up to senior level on current form.

Fisher, on the other hand, uses the ball smartly. He's one of those players that just has the look of an AFL player. He does things that would stand up in the AFL, like Lloyd, Hewett and Newman before him. I think he could be a very hand player. He's played mostly forward and through the midfield, but I can see him as a small defender as well due to his pinpoint kicking and good decision making.

[liz]

The curse of the NEAFL. So hard to guage form.

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Yes and no. Last week they were comfortably beaten by a strong Lions outfit, and we can hope that the other two AFL reserves sides will also be highly competitive. The Thunder normally have a strong team too.

The lack of pressure yesterday highlighted the ordinary skill level of several of our players. If you can't even line up to try and hit a target when you're playing against black and white witches' hats, what hope do you have of doing so against an AFL side. A couple of our players don't seem to even try to kick the ball properly. They just drop it vaguely in the direction of their feet and take a swing.

[ugg]

Don't underestimate how ordinary Southport was yesterday. As I wrote earlier in the thread, their team is packed with tall, strongly built players and they had a swagger about them that suggested they might be a decent opponent. But after the first few minutes they barely put up any resistance. The contrast with the Lions team that comfortably outplayed the same Swans outfit last week was stark. And the Swans team of, say, a couple of seasons back would have beaten them by 200, not 100.

I did enjoy the performances of a handful of the top-ups. They were all pretty reasonable and got involved far more than last week. But I mentally jotted down 57, 50 and 53 who did a few things that caught my eye. When I later checked the numbers I found that 57 was Robertson and 53 Barkley. But, unless I am going blind, I can't see a number 50 listed on the team sheet. He was a tall, lanky chap with a mop of blond curls on the top of his head.

They changed some of the topups late. 50 is D.Smith and 51 A.Kinasch

[707]

....... A couple of our players don't seem to even try to kick the ball properly. They just drop it vaguely in the direction of their feet and take a swing.

Names Liz? :-)

[Scottee]

Yes and no. Last week they were comfortably beaten by a strong Lions outfit, and we can hope that the other two AFL reserves sides will also be highly competitive. The Thunder normally have a strong team too.

The lack of pressure yesterday highlighted the ordinary skill level of several of our players. If you can't even line up to try and hit a target when you're playing against black and white witches' hats, what hope do you have of doing so against an AFL side. A couple of our players don't seem to even try to kick the ball properly. They just drop it vaguely in the direction of their feet and take a swing.

It's the inability to accurately determine how players are tracking under pressure each week that is a big problem. This is made worse by the regular byes.

The only thing you can do half the time is compare how our players are going compared to their team mates, but if it's not under pressure how do you really know? Sometimes the better players only really show out under pressure.

You can at least tell when players are out of form by their kicking if they are normally pretty good. Harry C is for instance usually a pretty good kick but delivered poorly on Saturday.



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