Match Day Thread Rnd. 5. Sydney V GWS. SCG. 19.25 pm.

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    • MattW
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      • May 2011
      • 4197

      Finally listened to Longmire's post game presser. As despondent as I've heard him; hoarse too. Surely the first time he's coached 5 (6 actually) consecutive losses. He did say that the inconsistent performance over 4 quarters was the product of a number of contributing factors (rather than the reason in itself), but didn't expand on those factors unfortunately (but probably prudently). He quite bluntly admitted player confidence was dented. His comments about Aliir had a defensive edge and suggest he didn't think Aliir demonstrated the necessary improvement in the NEAFL game and implied the selection of Melican was vindicated.

      Clearly confidence is a significant factor and a considerable reason why we let the four goal lead go so meekly. The players playing well - Jones, Lloyd, Buddy - are backing themselves to win the ball and then use it well. Mills, impressively, willed himself out of the yips on Saturday. Rohan and Melican played confidently. However, the likes of Jack, Hannebery, Parker and Tippett just don't seem in the right headspace, whether as a result of fading physical condition or some other reason. Best case scenario this Saturday is that those 4 guys in particular have big games and start winning back that self-belief.

      Regarding the defence, the selection of Melican was vindicated, clearly, but on reflection, I am not certain it should have come at the expense of Aliir. Aliir is one of the few with the talent to bring the ball quickly out of defence; to the extent he has issues giving up marks on the lead or punching the ball from contested mark situations, I think we can afford to let him learn on the job. I thought Marsh was dominated whichever opponent he went to on the weekend, and am not convinced he can play as a third tall defender. With Talia among the bests in the reserves game (I thought he was solid), perhaps we could see him in the next few weeks; definitely if Grundy is somehow out. He has the size we need.

      Finally, this will come across as sour grapes, but I would be happy to see any team win over GWS. The likes of Greene, Mumford, Johnson, Shaw, Cameron, Whitfield and Corr are particularly unlikeable. I thought it obvious they were seeking to rough the Swans up when 4 goals down, focusing on Kennedy (and reckon they were coached to). Galling that it worked.

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      • Nico
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        • Jan 2003
        • 11332

        Ludwig, that looks like your office. I do understand that some people have monkeys as pets in Thailand.
        http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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        • Swanny40519
          Regular in the side.
          • Oct 2012
          • 469

          Yes I cannot stand GWS and in particularly the way they head hunt opposition players. I saw Greene stomach punch a few of our players Saturday night playing the tough guy. And Mumford was trying to line up Jack all night but Jonhson beat him to it. Shaw just continues to be the full D/head continuing on after last weeks terrible spray towards that young Power backman.

          GWS have a very highly talented team but they are very unlikeable the way they play.

          Agree - any team that beats them is my favourite for the day.

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          • Billericay
            Regular in the Side
            • May 2013
            • 712

            Originally posted by MattW
            Regarding the defence, the selection of Melican was vindicated, clearly, but on reflection, I am not certain it should have come at the expense of Aliir. Aliir is one of the few with the talent to bring the ball quickly out of defence; to the extent he has issues giving up marks on the lead or punching the ball from contested mark situations, I think we can afford to let him learn on the job. I thought Marsh was dominated whichever opponent he went to on the weekend, and am not convinced he can play as a third tall defender. With Talia among the bests in the reserves game (I thought he was solid), perhaps we could see him in the next few weeks; definitely if Grundy is somehow out. He has the size we need.

            Finally, this will come across as sour grapes, but I would be happy to see any team win over GWS. The likes of Greene, Mumford, Johnson, Shaw, Cameron, Whitfield and Corr are particularly unlikeable. I thought it obvious they were seeking to rough the Swans up when 4 goals down, focusing on Kennedy (and reckon they were coached to). Galling that it worked.
            I think going in with 2 tall defenders was a huge mistake, demonstrated by the need to bring Reid back to defence after Quarter time. Rampe can do it, but not Marsh (although Rampe got towelled up by Cameron last time they played). Putting your 3rd best "tall" defender on Jeremy Cameron is a recipe for disaster. Think they should have left AA in the side.

            I'm sure they are told to target Kennedy every game. Johnson did it last time they played, and did a very effective job. They are a very "unsociable" team.

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            • Ludwig
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              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              Originally posted by Nico
              Ludwig, that looks like your office. I do understand that some people have monkeys as pets in Thailand.
              His name is McEddie.

              He must be very intelligent, because he's the only one who seems to understand me when I speak Thai.

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              • baskin
                Long Term Injury List
                • Jan 2008
                • 286

                Sorry, haven't read the whole thread but was wondering if anyone else saw Gary Rohan hit the deck on the O'Reilly wing in the first quarter? It seems he met with Corr and then ended up on the ground in enough distress for a trainer to support him off the ground. It wasn't raised in the MRP report and I'm now wondering if it was picked up on camera. Maybe the people I was sitting with and I were just seeing things.

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                • Xie Shan
                  Senior Player
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 2929

                  Originally posted by baskin
                  Sorry, haven't read the whole thread but was wondering if anyone else saw Gary Rohan hit the deck on the O'Reilly wing in the first quarter? It seems he met with Corr and then ended up on the ground in enough distress for a trainer to support him off the ground. It wasn't raised in the MRP report and I'm now wondering if it was picked up on camera. Maybe the people I was sitting with and I were just seeing things.
                  I didn't see that, but there seemed to be a bit going on between those two. Overall thought Rohan played fairly positively the few times he got the ball, apart from one time where he got tackled after a mark and was lucky not to get pinged as he was taken high.

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                  • crackedactor
                    Regular in the Side
                    • May 2012
                    • 919

                    I know it wont get report, but that Cameron elbow to the back of Grundy's head was no accident, it was deliberate.

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                    • Xie Shan
                      Senior Player
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 2929

                      I don't know what's more frustrating - GWS players sniping us and getting away with it, or the fact that when they do we seem unable to respond...

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                      • S.S. Bleeder
                        Senior Player
                        • Sep 2014
                        • 2165

                        Originally posted by crackedactor
                        I know it wont get report, but that Cameron elbow to the back of Grundy's head was no accident, it was deliberate.
                        Apparently Greene head butted Hanners too. Anybody see that incident?

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                        • Markwebbos
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                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                          Apparently Greene head butted Hanners too. Anybody see that incident?
                          It's on the AFL website.

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                          • Mel_C
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                            • Jan 2003
                            • 4470

                            Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                            Apparently Greene head butted Hanners too. Anybody see that incident?
                            I just saw it on the sports news. How it was classified as insufficient force is mind boggling. But then again this is the same panel that said Tippett's head didn't touch the ground last year!

                            This is Greene's third incident this year...plus there was the attempted punch to Marsh after the JLT game.

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                            • Sandridge
                              Outer wing, Lake Oval
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 2057

                              Originally posted by Swanny40519
                              Yes I cannot stand GWS and in particularly the way they head hunt opposition players. I saw Greene stomach punch a few of our players Saturday night playing the tough guy. And Mumford was trying to line up Jack all night but Jonhson beat him to it. Shaw just continues to be the full D/head continuing on after last weeks terrible spray towards that young Power backman.

                              GWS have a very highly talented team but they are very unlikeable the way they play.

                              Agree - any team that beats them is my favourite for the day.
                              Yep. They're obnoxious, unfairly aggressive and thoroughly dislikeable. But I'll be barracking for them this week against the Bulldogs. We weren't the only team that was dudded by umpires during the Bulldogs march towards the flag.

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                              • Ludwig
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                                • Apr 2007
                                • 9359

                                Damn the corporate media and all their fake news. I'm sick of it. I don't get sucked in with all their crap reporting.

                                Thank goodness, I just checked with Alex Jones of Inforwars and he says don't believe a word of it. And the Swans are actually undefeated this year and sitting atop of the ladder.

                                I knew it! I knew it! I knew it!


                                Here's Kenny leading the victory song after Saturday's game. Proof positive that we won the game. Do I need to say more?

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