Match Day Rnd. 6. Carlton V Sydney. MCG 14.10 pm.

[annew]

I watched a few minutes of few mixed games yesterday to see what is wrong and why we have fallen so far so quickly. Well its obvious to me the AFL has nullified in the way we play. Most of our core game plan is so redundant it explains why we are playing like a country football team.

One instance i noticed a lot has been how our players are now tackled with one arm pinged as soon as they get the ball, in the past kennedy attracted 3 players to try and tackle him while he always managed to release the ball to one of our players who would then with a chain of handballs move the ball quickly. That is not happening at all, players are not tackling Kennedy by the hips, they just ping one arm and he drops in the waiting hands of opposition players who just wait back.

This new method in tackling is happening across the league in a ploy to end stoppage based games.

We seriously look like an outdated team playing a different style from a different era. Horse and the club is stuck, we have players who were developed and trained to be tackle beasts, to grind down the opposition and squeeze up the ground where we then win the stoppage and go from there. Thats not allowed to occur no more as umpires allow throws and dropping the ball in tight AS LONG as the ball is moving out of congested packs. Kennedy and Parker have no adapt or are finding it hard and still trying to break tackles. Thats now holding the ball regardless if you had prior. You have to drop it the second you are touched.

I am so disappointed in the AFL for doing this, i rather watch a tight contest than the goal fest they want. Which makes me think this was a push by its commercial partners as well for more ad time.

If this is how the bastard AFL conduct business, well I am sorry Sydney I am going to do other things with my time than support this rubbish. I dont think theres one single code in the world that engages in rule manipulating each year thus to engineer the way the game is played.

Excellent post and totally agree with you. The AFL has sought to stop the swans style of play since 2005 and finally 12 years later have succeeded.

[bodgie]

How do you know that is his coaching style? Is it just based on how he played the game? Has he ever coached his own team and if so, how did they play?

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True. I'm guessing as much as anyone. But he is our forwards coach ... and there is not much encouragement to be had from that so far.

[royboy42]

No they were bad, we were beyond bad. I think we were have been flogged by Melbourne from 2008-09 today.

Run that by us again?

[Jonesy94]

Run that by us again?

Sorry i mean would have, not were.

[Jonesy94]

Excellent post and totally agree with you. The AFL has sought to stop the swans style of play since 2005 and finally 12 years later have succeeded.

They just dont like stoppage game. It might be good for us because thats how we are used to playing but the general rumbling for a few years has been the stoppages and the scrummage it creates. Plus less goals means less ads, its a fact.

Neutral fans also whinge when its a high stoppage game but then they get bored when its a goal fest. I dont think we AFL fans know what we want, hot and cold all the time yet we still show up.

[Scottee]

People need to stop this obsession with Allir Allir. He is not our saviour and yesterday i dont think he would have made the difference. From all reports he has been avg in the reserves.

It will take one coach to shut him down and break his confidence. Remember when Clarkson almost destroyed Rampe when he first played against the hawk by isolating him down in the goal square? I dont want that with AA.

Have alook at the ressies game and have a look at Aliir. Far from ordinary. Then compare him to BJ's effort yesterday.

[Jonesy94]

Have alook at the ressies game and have a look at Aliir. Far from ordinary. Then compare him to BJ's effort yesterday.

So he had a good game in the ressies? No reason to keep him in the NEAFL this week.

Sadly, the Jacks are finished. BJ was useless, he has been on the list far too long now and hasnt proved himself when given the opportunity. Also why isnt he a tackling machine like his old man was and like his brother? I saw a few fluff missed tackles and i am sure i saw him skirt a contest.

[111431]

So he had a good game in the ressies? No reason to keep him in the NEAFL this week.

Sadly, the Jacks are finished. BJ was useless, he has been on the list far too long now and hasnt proved himself when given the opportunity. Also why isnt he a tackling machine like his old man was and like his brother? I saw a few fluff missed tackles and i am sure i saw him skirt a contest.

I'm neutral re BJ but I thought he at least had a crack with his defensive efforts - tackled, chased and used the ball reasonably well when he had it. I know he stuffed the goal in the goal square but where were his fellow fwds telling him he had two to beat ?

[wolftone57]

There has been a bit of talk about our ugly stoppage game and the AFL hating it. But if you look at the so called new game all that has developed is a Rugby Union style rolling scrum. Instead of scrums you get rolling scrums. The umpires allowing certain teams to throw or drop the ball is turning our game into a form of Rugby Union, a game that worldwide is dying. Gillon McLachlan will be the CEO that kills AFL footy. He and his psycho mates are ruining the game and creating a game that is nothing to do with Aussie Rules Football. Already it is almost unrecognisable as the game I grew up with and loved. If the umpires don't start umpiring the throw out of the game soon I will no longer follow the game. I get incredibly frustrated every game I see and the umpires are told to let these incidents go because it is obvious they can see what is happening. If they were unsighted that would be different but an umpire standing about 10 metres away from the play in front of the play cannot help but see an obvious throw but let's it go. This is a planned directive from AFL headquarters because they want more ball movement. I charge Gillon McLachlan with deliberately and maliciously interfering with the interpretation of the rules of the game. Peter Schwab is just as guilty.

I find the rolling scrum just as ugly as the scrum.

[CureTheSane]

Sadly, the Jacks are finished. BJ was useless, he has been on the list far too long now and hasnt proved himself when given the opportunity.

So you're saying
Jack Off
Allir On

[0918330512]

So you're saying
Jack Off
Allir On

Better than Jack Off, On Aliir

[Jonesy94]

There has been a bit of talk about our ugly stoppage game and the AFL hating it. But if you look at the so called new game all that has developed is a Rugby Union style rolling scrum. Instead of scrums you get rolling scrums. The umpires allowing certain teams to throw or drop the ball is turning our game into a form of Rugby Union, a game that worldwide is dying. Gillon McLachlan will be the CEO that kills AFL footy. He and his psycho mates are ruining the game and creating a game that is nothing to do with Aussie Rules Football. Already it is almost unrecognisable as the game I grew up with and loved. If the umpires don't start umpiring the throw out of the game soon I will no longer follow the game. I get incredibly frustrated every game I see and the umpires are told to let these incidents go because it is obvious they can see what is happening. If they were unsighted that would be different but an umpire standing about 10 metres away from the play in front of the play cannot help but see an obvious throw but let's it go. This is a planned directive from AFL headquarters because they want more ball movement. I charge Gillon McLachlan with deliberately and maliciously interfering with the interpretation of the rules of the game. Peter Schwab is just as guilty.

I find the rolling scrum just as ugly as the scrum.

heh typical incompetence of an organisation run by morons, they tried to stop a perceived problem by creating another problem. Same as the deliberate OOB rule.

The game is a massive contrast to pre Gillion days with how much its changed in his short tenure.

If you watch our GF from 2012 you can sit there and count how many new free kicks would have been awarded that day under the new current rules. Then if you watch our 2005 win its even more different with stuff you wouldn't even dare to think to do these days.

The AFL has done a mighty job of destroying the legacy of 100 years of football. You cant compare sides to older sides no more because the reality is, the game is so different to what it was that those teams would be flogged, not from skills, but from the way the game is played and umpired. Other codes have slowly evolved with professionalism but they have kept the fundamentals the same, not with AFL.

And in a decade we most likely will be watching a game that has nothing to do with the 2017 version.

Incompetence, nothing more nothing less. You have a billion $ industry being run by ex players who were never really properly educated. An 18 week community coarse should not be enough to run a professional code. And why do we need a rules committee? Is there another scenario where a few of the ex players have given their old VFL mates a job? Why do we have a rules commmittee to begin with?

Also why does the AFL keep giving the umpires job to failed coaches?

[wycx]

That 100 year legacy of football also includes this: Australian rules football schism (1938?1949) - Wikipedia

So Gillion is not doing anything that has not been done before. In fact, I would much rather they flat out permit underarm throws of <2m, so at least the way the game is played is consistent with what the rules say.

[MattW]

Heeney admitted this morning that he's noticed that 'it's dead quiet' compared to last year and 'a really weird vibe' on the ground. Could be imagining it, but seemed a little bit of tension as Hannebery sought to mop it up.

AFL Game Day on Twitter: "?It?s dead quiet - it?s a weird vibe at the moment.?

@IHeeney says the young @sydneyswans must find their voice! https://t.co/F9P0qsGXcz"

Kennedy has never been a big onfield talker, but reckon Rampe and McVeigh are.

[Hotpotato]

That 100 year legacy of football also includes this: Australian rules football schism (1938?1949) - Wikipedia

So Gillion is not doing anything that has not been done before. In fact, I would much rather they flat out permit underarm throws of <2m, so at least the way the game is played is consistent with what the rules say.

Some teams have almost abandoned handballs (takes too long) in favour of slapping , pushing or knocking the ball to their team mate .