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  • Chilcott
    Regular in the Side
    • Jan 2008
    • 595

    100% correct Wolftone.

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    • DynamoJim
      On the Rookie List
      • Sep 2015
      • 11

      Can't understand how we are giving Towers another go. Similar to BJ and Rose, he might look good in the reserves but rarely translates it to the seniors. When Towers plays poorly in the seniors it really drags the rest of the team down. Not exactly what we need right now...I hope he plays well for his own sake because a poor game on Sunday will mean a long year and a half in the reserves playing out his Swans career.

      For all the debate about McVeigh, I think he is mostly compared to the form and contribution of his younger days rather than a direct comparison to who he is replacing. In all likelihood he will rack up more possessions than the season average by our half backs this year. Add in his leadership, it's a straightforward decision in my mind.

      I'm a little confused by the Newman out, primarily because he wasn't named as an out on Thursday. Must be a last minute change of mind at match committee.

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      • Jonesy94
        Suspended by the MRP
        • Apr 2017
        • 44

        Originally posted by wolftone57
        Look even I would have a bet against us at the moment. I picked against us in two matches this season. Should have done the same last week. Betting means you lose money if you lose and with our record, as bad as '93 so far, it's not looking particularly good. The other reason is our game plan has been exposed and I feel the players no longer believe in it. As for coaching, it is the role of the coaches to find out what is causing form slumps in players and correct it. If it is a niggle, put them out to pasture until right. If it is psychological, send them to the sports psychologist. If it is simply skill sets that are down, extra training usually fixes that. But in the end the head coach is the person responsible for the performance of the team. If he can't discover what is wrong then the probability is it is him that is the problem.

        Great coaches motivate players. It doesn't take a great deal to motivate our experienced players and the young guys just want to play. So what has gone wrong? Horse 'This sort of performance is unacceptable'. 'We are simply not playing the Swans brand of footy', 'We were not hard enough at the ball'. Not once did he mention 'We got smashed at the stoppages and clearances', 'We simply couldn't bring the ball out of defence with any system at all', 'Our forward set up was devoid of any organisation at all', 'On reflection we should have played Darcy Cameron as the second ruck to allow Sam Reid to play forward', 'We made some mistakes in selection, like not playing an extra tall back'. Coaches that don't take responsibility for their actions and for bad form usually end up losing the confidence of the players and getting sacked. I'm not saying we are at that point yet but if Horse refuses to take responsibility, he needs to be told by someone at the club that nobody is indispensable and that the coaching staff need to own responsibility for the team's performance.

        as for selection. newman should have stayed in, simple. he is one of the few players who can kick in our side and it would free Lloydy to the mids where his drive would be enormous. Smithy should have been dropped. One rule for the senior players and one for the younger guys John? Seems so to me!
        Why arnt you coaching? From all your ramblings on here and on BF you could easily replace "John"

        Maybe you could inspire the players with 5 paragraphs of ramblings?

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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          The McVeigh selection reeks of desperation, and will be a huge mental lift for Brisbane.

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          • YvonneH
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2011
            • 1141

            Originally posted by stevoswan
            Suck on that Giants........Great win to the Saints!
            Maybe not great for us though as the Saints are one of the teams that we play twice this season.

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            • dejavoodoo44
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2015
              • 8494

              Originally posted by Ludwig
              I really have tried my best to find of list of experts in comedy.

              I've searched the internet and even scrutinized a Norwegian website that listed experts in a wide variety of categories: Experts and expert lists - NTNU

              To my dismay, my name didn't appear on any of their lists of experts in any category, although in fairness, there was no category for comedy. All was not lost, as I have discovered that Professor Alan Boobis is considered an expert in toxicology by the World Health Organization, so if the subject ever arises on this forum I will send him a draft of comments for his approval before posting it on RWO.

              Thanks so much for you advice and putting me in my place. Much appreciated.
              For guidelines on what is funny on the internet, have you tried the website of this group, Comedians Utilizing New Technology Systems? Apparently it's quite popular, with those who like to lecture others, on what is legitimate posting and what isn't.

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              • mcs
                Travelling Swannie!!
                • Jul 2007
                • 8149

                Originally posted by YvonneH
                Maybe not great for us though as the Saints are one of the teams that we play twice this season.
                I think we will have huge trouble with the Saints this season (not that there isn't a team so far we aren't having huge trouble with). They have the game style that really will worry us imo.
                "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                • troyjones2525
                  Swans Fanatic!
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 2908

                  Originally posted by wolftone57
                  Look even I would have a bet against us at the moment. I picked against us in two matches this season. Should have done the same last week. Betting means you lose money if you lose and with our record, as bad as '93 so far, it's not looking particularly good. The other reason is our game plan has been exposed and I feel the players no longer believe in it. As for coaching, it is the role of the coaches to find out what is causing form slumps in players and correct it. If it is a niggle, put them out to pasture until right. If it is psychological, send them to the sports psychologist. If it is simply skill sets that are down, extra training usually fixes that. But in the end the head coach is the person responsible for the performance of the team. If he can't discover what is wrong then the probability is it is him that is the problem.

                  Great coaches motivate players. It doesn't take a great deal to motivate our experienced players and the young guys just want to play. So what has gone wrong? Horse 'This sort of performance is unacceptable'. 'We are simply not playing the Swans brand of footy', 'We were not hard enough at the ball'. Not once did he mention 'We got smashed at the stoppages and clearances', 'We simply couldn't bring the ball out of defence with any system at all', 'Our forward set up was devoid of any organisation at all', 'On reflection we should have played Darcy Cameron as the second ruck to allow Sam Reid to play forward', 'We made some mistakes in selection, like not playing an extra tall back'. Coaches that don't take responsibility for their actions and for bad form usually end up losing the confidence of the players and getting sacked. I'm not saying we are at that point yet but if Horse refuses to take responsibility, he needs to be told by someone at the club that nobody is indispensable and that the coaching staff need to own responsibility for the team's performance.

                  as for selection. newman should have stayed in, simple. he is one of the few players who can kick in our side and it would free Lloydy to the mids where his drive would be enormous. Smithy should have been dropped. One rule for the senior players and one for the younger guys John? Seems so to me!
                  +1000

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                  • CureTheSane
                    Carpe Noctem
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 5032

                    Originally posted by S.S. Bleeder
                    I agree. Junior does come across as fairly reserved, however, I don't see it as the captains sole responsibility to do all of the talking on the ground. Realistically, the captain is somewhat of a figurehead. On field leadership should come from most of the senior players. Buddy should be providing leadership in the forward line, Grundy and Smith in the backline, Jack, Junior, Parker and Hanners in the midfield. I don't think it's fair to blame Junior. He's been doing his job on the field, the others haven't.
                    Not blaming Kennedy, but a change in leadership is ONE of the variables that has resulted a GF team to be 0 and 6 and at the bottom of the ladder.
                    Blaming the coaches doesn't hold up for me. The game doesn't evolve that fast that what we were doing last year is no longer valid.
                    Personally I feel it is a bit of post GF complacency. I'm sure there were expectations that we'd end up in the 8 again this year, even when we started dropping games we should have won.
                    After the 4th loss, panic would have started to set in, as well as lack of confidence.
                    There is less to lose now. Given our draw, tomorrow's game really is make or break.
                    The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                    • Jonesy94
                      Suspended by the MRP
                      • Apr 2017
                      • 44

                      Originally posted by barry
                      The McVeigh selection reeks of desperation, and will be a huge mental lift for Brisbane.
                      If we do win and we look a lot better with McVeigh in the side then all fingers are going to be pointed at you.

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                      • Billericay
                        Regular in the Side
                        • May 2013
                        • 712

                        Originally posted by Jonesy94
                        If we do win and we look a lot better with McVeigh in the side then all fingers are going to be pointed at you.
                        The proof in the McVeigh pudding will be in the eating, tomorrow.

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                        • Meg
                          Go Swannies!
                          Site Admin
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 4828

                          North def Crows by 59 points! What is going on this season?? (And will we beat anyone???)

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                          • Thunder Shaker
                            Aut vincere aut mori
                            • Apr 2004
                            • 4160

                            Originally posted by Meg
                            North def Crows by 59 points! What is going on this season?? (And will we beat anyone???)
                            My guess is we will be like Fremantle last year, with some good wins in the second half of the year to avoid finishing last. Fremantle only won four games last year. I expect we will win about six and we do play Hawthorn twice.
                            "Unbelievable!" -- Nick Davis leaves his mark on the 2005 semi final

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              Originally posted by Jonesy94
                              If we do win and we look a lot better with McVeigh in the side then all fingers are going to be pointed at you.
                              Bring it on. If we require McVeigh then we can right off 2018 and on.

                              However we should win with or without McVeigh.

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                              • Mug Punter
                                On the Rookie List
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 3325

                                Originally posted by Thunder Shaker
                                My guess is we will be like Fremantle last year, with some good wins in the second half of the year to avoid finishing last. Fremantle only won four games last year. I expect we will win about six and we do play Hawthorn twice.
                                I think you are right, 6-8 wins and a bottom four finish are my expectations now.

                                Get any players playing busted under the knife the back half of the season so they are ready to fire on all cylinders next year.

                                Get 12 games + into guys that are genuinely potential first teamers such as Florent, Cameron, COR, Maubain, Hayward and possibly Newman.

                                Determine what Aliir's best spot is, I personally think it is as a winger or half forward, and give hi game time because he is too loose and probably too talented athletically to be a KPD.

                                Draft well for a top 4 pick and a couple in the 20s if we lose Reid or Jones

                                And win tomorrow FFS

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