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  • robamiee
    Regular in the Side
    • Sep 2005
    • 688

    #16
    our midfielders look battle weary to me...play yngsters, freshen our guys up by managing them this year..
    get a high draft pic in this years draft..

    out: Cunningham, rose, BJ, grundy, rohan, smith (nowhere on the money at the moment for me)
    In: Cameron, Talia, Florent, AA, Maibum, Dawson (got to give the kid more than a weeks go)

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    • tasswan
      Warming the Bench
      • Aug 2006
      • 334

      #17
      In : NEAFL team
      Out: AFL team

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      • rb4x
        Regular in the Side
        • Dec 2007
        • 968

        #18
        Pity that we can not play rookies. O'Riordan, Murray and Pink were three of the best in Darwin yet can not be considered unless we put someone on the Long Term Injury List. I would not bring in Tippet as he was poor last week before he got this new injury. I assume Grundy and Rohan are mandatory outs. We need two rucks so Cameron is a must and three tall defenders so that means Talia and Aliir must also come in. After that there is not much to look at for in's, Towers, Foote, Dawson, Florent is about it. I don't think Maibaum or Leonardis are ready. For other out's does young Hayward need a rest? BJ, Rose, Harry, Smooch and Laidler must be all on notice for starters.

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        • Nico
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 11332

          #19
          What about Papley into centre bounces. Has speed and is lively. One thing for sure is he will make a beeline for the footy.
          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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          • stellation
            scott names the planets
            • Sep 2003
            • 9718

            #20
            Originally posted by Nico
            What about Papley into centre bounces. Has speed and is lively. One thing for sure is he will make a beeline for the footy.
            I think they like him in the forward line so he's more than 50 metres away from a shot on the opponent's goal.
            I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
            We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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            • goods78
              Warming the Bench
              • Sep 2012
              • 269

              #21
              I suspect we have a huge number of players playing with injuries. It's the only way I can justify the huge drop off.

              Minimal training during the week results in rusty skills - particularly by foot.

              Injections and strapping impair the mobility and feeling of the limbs. It must be very difficult to finesse a kick when you can't feel a part of your leg.

              I'm guessing that many senior players are selflessly assuring the coaches that they can play through injury for the good team (eg K Jack), but are not playing to standard. This week, full scans, doc's opinion to count heavily and play only the fittest players.

              I don't care if the young players butcher it a bit, but getting to and impacting contests are non negotiable - as well as tackling!





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              • ernie koala
                Senior Player
                • May 2007
                • 3251

                #22
                Originally posted by MattW
                It seems to me that there are a minimum 4 outs - two injury, two competence.

                Out: Grundy, Rose, Jack, Rohan
                In: Aliir, Cameron, Florent, Dawson

                Possibly Talia for Laidler; it wasn't Jeremy's fault, but we need to give Talia a crack at some point..

                If Tippett is back, he's in for Sinclair.

                Agree with all this.....

                And would add 'Nearly There' isn't living up to his nickname, he's 'Nowhere Near There'...Can't catch, isn't physical enough when the ball is on the ground.

                He should only get a game as a last resort.....

                The Nankervis trade now hangs over the Swans brain trust like a bad smell.
                Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it's time to pause and reflect... MT

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                • mcs
                  Travelling Swannie!!
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 8150

                  #23
                  Originally posted by rb4x
                  Pity that we can not play rookies. O'Riordan, Murray and Pink were three of the best in Darwin yet can not be considered unless we put someone on the Long Term Injury List. I would not bring in Tippet as he was poor last week before he got this new injury. I assume Grundy and Rohan are mandatory outs. We need two rucks so Cameron is a must and three tall defenders so that means Talia and Aliir must also come in. After that there is not much to look at for in's, Towers, Foote, Dawson, Florent is about it. I don't think Maibaum or Leonardis are ready. For other out's does young Hayward need a rest? BJ, Rose, Harry, Smooch and Laidler must be all on notice for starters.
                  I would like to see COR get a game soonet rather than later as i think he has plenty of potential, but Pink is nowhere near ready for Afl footy. The kid can most definitely play, but needs time to build up his frame and get his body ready fo AFL footy.
                  "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                  • dimelb
                    pr. dim-melb; m not f
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 6889

                    #24
                    Out: Rohan (concussion), Grundy (concussion), Jack (not going to change much at this stage)

                    In: Tippett (if fit), Cameron (if Tippett not available), Aliir (needs to learn in the seniors), Talia (Mills to midfield).

                    Reid to play forward at all times.

                    Ditto Buddy - he stuffs up too often in the midfield.

                    Focus in training on skills, not endurance. Find a way to play football as sport, not sentenced to hard labour.
                    Last edited by dimelb; 30 April 2017, 11:27 AM.
                    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                    • ugg
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                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15963

                      #25
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                      • Scottee
                        Senior Player
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 1585

                        #26
                        I think there has been a lack of flexibility with the selections. What I don't get with Longmire is that he seems think of players in terms of only one aspect of their game, speed, strength, height. As such we get someone like BJ on the forward line unable to compete with bigger players who may be almost as fast.

                        We need versatile players that have as much height, speed and strength as you can get in one package. Aliir for instance can play in almost any position, backs, forwards, mids or on ball as a fill in ruckman. He is seldom beaten for speed, has great vision and takes the game on. He fits the bill for the unannounced new rules that the VFL has brought in to stop us.Towers, to a lesser extent, fills this bill and is probably still a positive despite his lack of football nouse.Dawson and Edwards will also fill this bill eventually.

                        Some of the results of this lack of flexibility were the comical match-ups that we saw yesterday.

                        This really is a new era and we need to adjust.

                        The likely outs for next week seem to be Rohan and perhaps Grundy due to injury. BJ omitted is a no brainer. It seems that McVeigh, Tippett and Marsh will not be available.

                        So potentially 3 changes. There are very few realistic options. Aliir (no brainer) Dawson, Cameron, Towers, Foote, Talia. Maibuam

                        If Grundy really is injured the decision needs to be made as to whether he is replaced by Aliir or Talia/Maibaum. You could potentially replace either Rohan or BJ with Aliir and still bring Talia/Maibaum in to replace Grundy. In favour of Talia is experience (not much but some), Maibaum has been very tight in the reserves but doesn't run off his man much as yet.

                        Towers, who at least has a combination of speed, power, height and spring, would provide an option up forward and would be in contention with Dawson, who has better skills but, like Towers, seems to have some decision making issues. Again its a matter of an up and comer against a player with some experience.

                        My pick, assuming injuries are as suspected is:

                        Out: Grundy (inj), Rohan(inj) and BJ.
                        In, Aliir, Talia and Towers.

                        Cameron into the side has been mentioned by some but with Talia and Aliir coming into the side an extra tall might be difficult against a side that has only one ruckman. My only other comment is that some people are calling for Rose to be dropped. He wasn't great but at least he showed something and would be better for the run.Another 4 changes is perhaps too many. Dawson is the logical replacement if he is dropped.
                        We have them where we want them, everything is going according to plan!

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                        • chalbilto
                          Senior Player
                          • Oct 2007
                          • 1139

                          #27
                          Out; Grundy, Rohan (both injured), BJ & Rose.
                          In: Aliir, Talia, Towers & Cameron.

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                          • Ludwig
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9359

                            #28
                            I've been watching the Melbourne-Essendon game with Cam Pedersen going up against Bellchambers in the ruck. Pederson is about the age and size as Reg, but with far less game experience and credentials. Pedersen has lost the hitouts, but Melbourne are winning the clearances. It seems that the stoppages have been more or less break even. Tom MacDonald, a defender, has taken some turns in the ruck as well.

                            Maybe Reg will miss next week with concussion, but if so, it's only likely to be a week. Reg is contracted until next year. I think he's become too slow to play in a modern defence, but not too slow to play in the ruck, where his work under pressure would be very useful once the ball hits the ground. He reads the play well and is a good mark. He also has a good tank.

                            Here's an idea: We play we 4 tall defenders: Reg, Aliir, Talia and Melican. Reg plays as our 1st ruckman with help from Aliir. So we effective are only playing 3 in defence at any one time. Our forward line is not compromised by taking a forward to play in the ruck.

                            I don't think Sinclair is a viable option. I like Cal because he puts in a big effort. He really gives it his best, but he is simply not good enough as a ruckman and cannot take a mark unless it uncontested and he gets 2 cracks at it. It's not going to work.

                            Tippett should be the first option in the ruck, but waiting for Tippett to be right is like waiting for Godot.

                            I like the idea of Cameron as a forward ruck and I'm sure we will give this a go. It may be a good option long term.

                            Naismith gives us the best first use of the ball in the ruck, but has a way to go with his work around the ground. I hope he can develop into another Max Gawn. Both Max and Sam have been extremely injury prone though. So it may be a bit of a false hope. There is another downside if we look at the criticism from many that our game plan is based on contested footy at the stoppages and this doesn't suit modern footy. Naismith in the ruck brings us back to this kind of game plan, while the other solutions are not based on winning first use of the ball, so forces us into another game plan.

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                            • Debster1
                              On the Rookie List
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 15

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              Out : Rohan, BJ, Rose, Grundy, Sinclair

                              In : Aliir, Cameron, Dawson, Talia, Florent

                              Also would replace Laidler with Marsh if fit although Laidler played okay for the most part. Tippett unlikely to play next week. Sinclair had some big ranking point numbers, but cannot mark the ball well enough to see any future in continuing to play him unless all 3 of our other ruckmen are injured.

                              Another consideration is to bring back Towers to split the ruck duties with Cameron. Last and only chance remaining for Towers to continue his AFL career. He is contracted through next season, so worth a try given our current position.

                              I'm half tempted to give Rose another week because if we drop him now it could be curtains for him.
                              Agree with everything except replacing Laidler. He's so reliable, calm under pressure and can look after himself. I'm a nervous wreck watching Marsh!


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                              • Billericay
                                Regular in the Side
                                • May 2013
                                • 712

                                #30
                                I think McVeigh will be available for selection against the Lions and I think he's an automatic in if he is. Right now it feels like we need more on-field leadership than we've been getting.

                                ?... he is ok so, we will give Jarrad another week and he will train fully and be available, all things being equal, next weekend.?
                                McVeigh ruled out - sydneyswans.com.au

                                If Tippett isn't available then I would like to see them give Cameron a go rather than have Reid pinch hit and I'd also like to see a 3rd tall defender rather than a medium, all of which would give Reid a chance to play as a forward. I'm an Aliir believer if he plays as the 3rd tall not the 2nd. So Laidler out, Aliir in.

                                I'm also not convinced that Grundy won't get up as his injury wasn't that serious.

                                OUT: BJ, Gaz, Laidler
                                IN: McVeigh, Cameron / Tippett, Aliir

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