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  • treespirit
    The Tree Is Out There
    • Jan 2003
    • 337

    WTF?

    OK, so despite the current membership card hanging in my study, I've been out of the loop for the season so far, for various reasons.

    Can anyone summarise for me WTF is going on with our team? I've noticed the losing bit. But why is it happening?
  • Southern Swan15
    Warming the Bench
    • May 2010
    • 203

    #2
    Workrate, form and game plan. We look slow and old and have no clear structure. Nobody seems prepared to work to help somebody. A few 1%ers would be nice to see.

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    • Danzar
      I'm doing ok right now, thanks
      • Jun 2006
      • 2027

      #3
      Definitely work rate. Toss in some key injuries too..we were heavily exposed yesterday in the ruck.
      Captain, I am detecting large quantities of win in this sector

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      • Hotpotato
        Senior Player
        • Jun 2014
        • 2261

        #4
        Natural evolution of the draft system...
        You just can't stay at or near the top for a prolonged period now..

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        • Swanny40519
          Regular in the side.
          • Oct 2012
          • 469

          #5
          I think there are some serious problems at the club because there does not appear to be any enthusiasm, teamwork, being prepared to work your guts out etc etc.

          Plus the coaching staff don't have any answers to what the problem is. If they did then hopefully changes would be made to fix the problems. You cannot blame injuries on what we have been dishing up since game 1.

          Our game plan is now obsolete and we are being left behind the fast running, attacking teams.

          Our key players look worn out, defeated both mentally and physically.

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          • Rob
            On the Rookie List
            • Apr 2015
            • 38

            #6
            Originally posted by Hotpotato
            Natural evolution of the draft system...
            You just can't stay at or near the top for a prolonged period now..
            Even so, this is an unprecedented drop off in form


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            • Swanny40519
              Regular in the side.
              • Oct 2012
              • 469

              #7
              Originally posted by Danzar
              Definitely work rate. Toss in some key injuries too..we were heavily exposed yesterday in the ruck.
              I agree, but there have been some very puzzling selection decisions. We lose a ruck for the Carlton game, and what - we bring in 2 small forwards. Plus we try and play Buddy as a midfielder ????

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              • aardvark
                Veterans List
                • Mar 2010
                • 5685

                #8
                We have a handful of All Australians, one of the best forwards ever to play, a couple of rising stars and a few first round draft pics. We also have a complete lack of effort and desire and a game plan that resembles a low grade U/10 team. There really is no excuse for being so bad.

                It is easy to blame the draft, lack of cola, players worn out from being at the top too long and trade bans and they have probably had some effect, but personally I think there is something rotten internally we don't really know about.

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                • Jonesy94
                  Suspended by the MRP
                  • Apr 2017
                  • 44

                  #9
                  Imagine you recruit players and develop them to play a certain way. Its working and you make 2 GF using that game plan and philosophy. Every new swans player apparently is schooled on how the swans play, the bloods code, hard and accountable footy.

                  Then suddenly the rules are changed and tweeked overnight and you are left with the wrong players who have been indoctrinated to play a certain style that has proven to be successful, well almost but we did make 2 GFs. Then you have to play a new way and adapt quickly. If you are a senior player whos deficiencies were covered up (pace is something our mids never had but we covered that in the way we tackled hard around the ball) with a game plan but now all of a sudden they are exposed, it must be deflating.

                  It feels like we have a team of heavy v8 super cars with lotsa grunt but now are forced to race against light weight turbo cars and we simply cannot compete.

                  Even the pacey players we have brought in show the same skills like the rest of the team and play a certain way.

                  Longmuire needs to spend the rest of the season figuring out a new game plan, start by using Heeney and Mills as a base. Sadly that means it could be the end of some of our more loved players, like Parker. Though I think Parker could easily slot as a full time defensive forward.

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                  • The Big Cat
                    On the veteran's list
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 2347

                    #10
                    I am sick to death of people talking about internal division when there is absolutely nothing to point to this except a team totally devoid of confidence and stability of personal. In 6 games we have played 34 players and that's without McVeigh and Johnson who are automatic ins when fit. Try and get system with that many changes
                    Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                    • 0918330512
                      Senior Player
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 1654

                      #11
                      Injuries

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                      • waswan
                        Senior Player
                        • Oct 2015
                        • 2047

                        #12
                        Injuries were an acceptable excuse until yesterday
                        the coaches box we have no plan B
                        it is always other sides figuring out how to play against us
                        when have we ever played a game with this coach and countered what the other team is trying to do
                        he simply has 1 way to play if that doesn't work we are screwed

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                        • grarmy
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Aug 2010
                          • 406

                          #13
                          Enthusiasm, skills.
                          "Play like you can’t lose."

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                          • RogueSwan
                            McVeigh for Brownlow
                            • Apr 2003
                            • 4602

                            #14
                            Originally posted by The Big Cat
                            I am sick to death of people talking about internal division when there is absolutely nothing to point to this except a team totally devoid of confidence and stability of personal. In 6 games we have played 34 players and that's without McVeigh and Johnson who are automatic ins when fit. Try and get system with that many changes
                            Well said TBC. ????????????

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                            • crackedactor
                              Regular in the Side
                              • May 2012
                              • 919

                              #15
                              totally disagree that there is not some internal division. Watch the SF against Adelaide last year and now watch yesterday some eight games later with almost an identical side. We were outstanding against Adelaide. You don't lose that much skills and co-ordination unless there is something mentally happening. If it was just draft picks, it would be a slow drop off of form, not a dramatic one.

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