Match Day Rnd 8. North Melbourne V Sydney. 16.40 pm. Etihad Stadium.

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  • RogueSwan
    McVeigh for Brownlow
    • Apr 2003
    • 4602

    Originally posted by Cheer_Cheer
    I loved that one hander by Reid. I noticed after that how he has added some bulk... Please can we keep him. He is only just coming into him prime. I know others say he is a tease but he is such a great swingman. An underrated craft that he seems to be perfect at.
    He does seem a smart footballer, doing a lot of little things, to help out his team mates. Last week he sacrificed his game because Buddy was in such good form. This week he stepped up, kicked some goals and took some strong marks both forward and back. Definite keeper.
    "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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    • DynamoJim
      On the Rookie List
      • Sep 2015
      • 11

      +1

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      • Industrial Fan
        Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
        • Aug 2006
        • 3317

        Originally posted by CureTheSane
        Talk to Towers about negativity.
        Couple of errors in early games and he was written off here.
        Some posters are now stretching and warming up for their back flips.

        oh, and the desperate pessimists who completely wrote off finals will be also in a couple of weeks...
        FWIW, I dont think Towers is out of the woods yet. But to be honest if it were up to me I'd have stamped his papers as not fit for senior level after the Port game and his portfolio in 2016. He is an undoubted beneficiary of our instability this year, and probably has a few weeks to prove he's top 22. I still hold my doubts. Happy to see him do well though as its good for the team having competition for spots.

        As far as finals, its a crazy year and anything seems possible, but I think we lost too many easy games to make it. Would make it easier if there were one or two teams putting everyone to the sword rather than bunching up as a big pack.
        He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          After a few wins the thought of finals creps in again, but when you look at the ladder we are still a long way off. Even from here on in, the 8th team will need to win more than 1/2 their games to stay 8th. For an non-vic side, that means all home games, plus a couple away. For us to get into finals we have to win a very substantial number on the road, and win all at home.

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          • mattybloods
            Warming the Bench
            • Jul 2016
            • 482

            All in all very happy with the win! Don't want to get too negative but I didn't think Sinclair or Naismith were particularly good. They really don't offer much around the ground, would much prefer to play one ruckman unless Tippett is available as he can play forward.

            Tippett in next week for either player. If Naismith is 100% fit I would keep him in and drop Sinclair, leaving Tippett up forward 80% ruck 20%. If Naismith can't ruck for 80% then I would drop him and have Sinclair ruck 60% forward 40%. Bearing in mind Naismith has had a limited pre season and came straight back into seniors after injury, he might need a rest

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            • CureTheSane
              Carpe Noctem
              • Jan 2003
              • 5032

              Originally posted by Industrial Fan
              FWIW, I dont think Towers is out of the woods yet. But to be honest if it were up to me I'd have stamped his papers as not fit for senior level after the Port game and his portfolio in 2016. He is an undoubted beneficiary of our instability this year, and probably has a few weeks to prove he's top 22. I still hold my doubts. Happy to see him do well though as its good for the team having competition for spots.

              As far as finals, its a crazy year and anything seems possible, but I think we lost too many easy games to make it. Would make it easier if there were one or two teams putting everyone to the sword rather than bunching up as a big pack.
              I've always thought Towers had what it takes.
              This year I've seen a bulkier, slightly more aggressive Towers and slight skill improvement.
              Holds his spot for now. Not saying consistently best 22, but he's on his way if he can continue the way he is.
              The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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              • Industrial Fan
                Goodesgoodesgoodesgoodes!
                • Aug 2006
                • 3317

                Its all in the mind with him.

                Happy to see him do well, and worst case keep pressure on the top 22.
                He ate more cheese, than time allowed

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                • ScottH
                  It's Goodes to cheer!!
                  • Sep 2003
                  • 23665

                  Originally posted by CureTheSane
                  I've always thought Towers had what it takes.
                  This year I've seen a bulkier, slightly more aggressive Towers and slight skill improvement.
                  Holds his spot for now. Not saying consistently best 22, but he's on his way if he can continue the way he is.
                  He seemed to have a run with role on Ziebell, and Rich last week.
                  Did a reasonable job both weeks, but I think he will always be a fringe player.
                  Still coughs it up too easily.

                  I thought our defence was pretty god yesterday. I know they were missing Waite, but the ball came out of there time and time again.
                  They set up well and played a good team defence.
                  Although we did hand North a number of goals with silly mistakes.

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                  • bloodspirit
                    Clubman
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 4448

                    RE: Towers

                    I stuck by Towers for a long time. Even after last year's after-the-siren Richmond loss at the G. Then, I think it was after the Bulldogs game where he again took the wrong option that led to us losing another close one, I finally gave up on him. Not just because of that one bad decision but because of his general lack of hardness and deer-in-the-headlights game style (if not actual appearance too).

                    Clearly Towers has a lot of great attributes that led us to waste our first round draft pick on him. What's more he has played well these last two games and he's had some excellent matches in the past (I think especially during the 2015 finals series). But overall he just hasn't shown enough after having enough opportunity. I no longer think of him as best 22 - just a useful, versatile depth player who we can call, like Laidler (and possibly Marsh who may not make our best 22 either). If Towers can continue to play well in coming weeks he may hold his spot a while longer but even then, in the long term, I think that someone like Dawson, who is a not dissimilar player (tall, athletic, marking forward but with a bit less of a leap but better in most other departments) will take that spot away from him. Even sooner than that I rate Robbo ahead of Towers but I think Towers has to stuff up before Robbo can be called in to replace him. Robbo is more of an honest player and doesn't have quite the talent and flashiness that Towers can occasionally offer. But Robbo is more reliable and does his job with pretty good consistency for a player with just 12 games to his name.
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                    • Auntie.Gerald
                      Veterans List
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 6474

                      I meant to say also ....... how much do the players love playing with papley !!!!!

                      His energy, grit and creative flair is imposing on the opposition but magnetic for his team mates to lift

                      Plus I hope the macca couple weeks out might be the opportunity for Newman to take over the link role with Lloyd.......he showed plenty yest and really stepped up with his run thru the middle

                      Jones can then spend more time in the midfield and Newman with more snr game time can jump ahead of Macca's role which is obvious that a youthful player or two need to take over this role anyway and Newman has had 5 years experience in neafl or vfl in the backline

                      Looks like last year I could be wrong re Newman.....I honestly did think he would fit into an evolving run and carry style of football off the backline which is dominating AFL right now

                      The top teams are so quick on the transition

                      Time will tell against intense forward pressure on our backline and their ability to control our transitions

                      Speaking of super quick run and carry transition I wonder how edwards is going in ressies ?
                      Last edited by Auntie.Gerald; 15 May 2017, 01:26 PM.
                      "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                      • lwjoyner
                        Regular in the Side
                        • Nov 2004
                        • 942

                        Comments of newman and mistakes a bit rich. Lloyd also makes plenty with his dinky kicks (like reg) wish he would cut them out. Horse really needs to iron out this problem with most guilty.

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                        • Blue Sun
                          Senior Player
                          • May 2010
                          • 1438

                          A different team played yesterday it seems. Leagues better than what was served up in the first 6 weeks. Heres hoping the boys can continue this good form. Just bring the pressure every week, boys!

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                          • Mel_C
                            Veterans List
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 4470

                            Originally posted by barry

                            I think we can put to rest that we need McVeigh in the backline pointing to win. Unless he was doing some serious long range pointing, including some monster 150m points.
                            I was at the game and when he was moved to the forward line he continued his pointing and was instructing Hayward where to stand [emoji6] .

                            It's interesting how our games against North in Melbourne have niggles both on and off the ground. It was pretty heated in the crowd. I got into an argument with a north supporter about the deliberate rushed behind decision. He obviously had no idea that the rule had changed with regards to the distance from goal you are allowed to rush the behind. He kept going on about that he was under pressure and he wouldn't listen to me.

                            There was an interesting incident with David King. Just before the start of the third quarter I noticed he had come up into the crowd and was talking to a swans supporter. I thought he must have known the guy but then I realised his face was angry and he was berating the guy! I tried lip reading and I think he said "come and say it to my face you dog". I wonder what was said to him to make him go off??

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                            • Ludwig
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              As strange as it may seem, I think Towers' best role is an inside midfielder. There's not enough time to think about anything, just try to win the ball, kick it or run with it, and if the other side gets it, then tackle. He does this quite well. He certainly can play a 2nd ruckman against other 2nd ruckmen, like we will see this week with Josh Bruce.

                              He's been trying hard and there is improvement there, but still has a way to go.

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                              • snajik
                                Senior Player
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 1115

                                Originally posted by Mel_C
                                I was at the game and when he was moved to the forward line he continued his pointing and was instructing Hayward where to stand [emoji6] .

                                It's interesting how our games against North in Melbourne have niggles both on and off the ground. It was pretty heated in the crowd. I got into an argument with a north supporter about the deliberate rushed behind decision. He obviously had no idea that the rule had changed with regards to the distance from goal you are allowed to rush the behind. He kept going on about that he was under pressure and he wouldn't listen to me.

                                There was an interesting incident with David King. Just before the start of the third quarter I noticed he had come up into the crowd and was talking to a swans supporter. I thought he must have known the guy but then I realised his face was angry and he was berating the guy! I tried lip reading and I think he said "come and say it to my face you dog". I wonder what was said to him to make him go off??
                                Probably something along the lines of, "I will never forgive you David King for that gutless act you committed on Craig O'Brien in the 1996 Grand Final. Only a coward would do something of that nature."
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