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  • Dosser
    Just wild about Harry
    • Mar 2011
    • 1833

    #46
    Originally posted by barry
    Towers is averaging about twice as many possessions as Rohan is at the moment. No way Rohan displaces Towers. In fact Rohan needs an extended run in the two's.
    Stop killing Bambi! Actually, I agree with you...

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    • longmile
      Crumber
      • Apr 2011
      • 3365

      #47
      Originally posted by barry
      Towers is averaging about twice as many possessions as Rohan is at the moment. No way Rohan displaces Towers. In fact Rohan needs an extended run in the two's.
      agreed, Rohan needs to earn his spot instead of having it just given to him

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      • 111431
        Regular in the Side
        • Sep 2010
        • 698

        #48
        Originally posted by Ludwig
        I never heard of this.

        You might try using the Pythagorean Theorem if you want to get your angles right.


        Collingwood won the hitouts 65 - 14. The clearances were 35 each and Melbourne won the centre clearances by 5. So much for the importance of ruckmen. Really, why do we even bother?

        We can easily fit Dawson and Aliir in the side and Marsh can keep his spot. Just drop Naismith and Sinclair.
        Despite this analysis and the fact Melbourne won the game, the Melb coach Goodwin is keen to have Gawn and possibly Spencer in the side for this wk. He clearly values the role of the ruckman

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        Originally posted by longmile
        agreed, Rohan needs to earn his spot instead of having it just given to him
        Fully agree

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        • Markwebbos
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2016
          • 7186

          #49
          Neil Cordy suggests Towers and Melican are in danger of being replaced by Rohan / Dawson & Aliir.

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          • bloodspirit
            Clubman
            • Apr 2015
            • 4448

            #50
            Just on the rucks: if the Dees only equalled the clearances with an extra midfielder (and despite losing the hitouts) how were they better off without a ruck? Assuming clearances are equal, you might still prefer to have a ruck with a different body shape to the other players on the field so you can mismatch them with the opponents and gain an advantage e.g. via their physical presence or ability to get their hands to the ball and either mark it (not in the case of Naismith/Sinclair) or bring it to ground. Would definitely be better if they were marking it more often.
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            • Ludwig
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2007
              • 9359

              #51
              Originally posted by 111431
              Despite this analysis and the fact Melbourne won the game, the Melb coach Goodwin is keen to have Gawn and possibly Spencer in the side for this wk. He clearly values the role of the ruckman
              Max Gawn is a very good footballer, whether in the ruck or around the ground. Takes marks and kicks goals. I'd have him in my team too.

              What Melbourne have shown over this period without a ruckman is that there alternative ways to approach the stoppages which can be just as effective as having a dominant ruckman.

              Hopefully Richmond bring in Ivan Soldo to help out in the ruck so Reg can have an opponent to play on. Naismith can handle both of them easily. Against Nankervis alone, I wouldn't mind rucking Aliir and Reid against him and take the advantage around the ground. I would even ruck Reg against Nanka. Reg doesn't play Jack Riewoldt well and all the other Tiger forwards are small zippy types, so I don't know what Reg will do for the day. Maybe he'll have to play forward or go one on one against Dusty.

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              • AnnieH
                RWOs Black Sheep
                • Aug 2006
                • 11332

                #52
                Swap the reserves for the firsts.
                They had a screamer last week.
                Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
                Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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                • ugg
                  Can you feel it?
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 15970

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Markwebbos
                  Neil Cordy suggests Towers and Melican are in danger of being replaced by Rohan / Dawson & Aliir.
                  Where did he say/write this? It's interesting because he was sitting near the Swans coaches at the NEAFL game for at least a quarter.
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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    #54
                    Originally posted by ugg
                    Where did he say/write this? It's interesting because he was sitting near the Swans coaches at the NEAFL game for at least a quarter.
                    No Cookies | Herald Sun

                    NEIL CORDY?S FORECAST: Dean Towers is likely to lose his spot to Jordan Dawson who was outstanding in the NEAFL kicking four goals and gathering 25 disposals and making 11 tackles. He looked a little overawed in his debut against the Magpies but will be better for the run. Aliir will get his chance to show his enormous talents on the open spaces of the MCG at the expense of Melican.

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                    • Boddo
                      Senior Player
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 1049

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Markwebbos
                      No Cookies | Herald Sun

                      NEIL CORDY?S FORECAST: Dean Towers is likely to lose his spot to Jordan Dawson who was outstanding in the NEAFL kicking four goals and gathering 25 disposals and making 11 tackles. He looked a little overawed in his debut against the Magpies but will be better for the run. Aliir will get his chance to show his enormous talents on the open spaces of the MCG at the expense of Melican.
                      If true feel for Towers as I don't think he's done much wrong but like I've said in other threads I'm a big Dawson fan n would like to see him given an extended stay in the seniors to allow him to develop his game more. As for Melican getting dropped it shows that the club was playing Aliir in the ruck/forward position so that he didn't languish in the back half hardly getting the ball as the reserves have had some easy games with the ball spending a lot of time in the forward half.

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                      • Hotpotato
                        Senior Player
                        • Jun 2014
                        • 2271

                        #56
                        Whose going out fend Dusty ?

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                        • Auntie.Gerald
                          Veterans List
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 6478

                          #57
                          For me Marsh or a player like him is always been a selection that allows our backline to rotate more attacking players

                          If marsh can play a more shut down role on medium to smalls we can then have another backline attacking rotation

                          Because marsh is strong overhead and reasonably quick he can play on a 191cm down to a small

                          That frees up our attacking small to medium defenders to be more offensive

                          I suspect marsh may keep being nick smiths understudy and take over a nick smith type role in the future
                          "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                          • 707
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 6204

                            #58
                            Melican for Aliir, I can see why we could but gee Melican (and a heap of us) would consider himself unlucky.

                            Dawson for Towers, memories of last years Richmond game at the MCG maybe? I want to see Dawson on the big stage again, has all the tools.

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                            • royboy42
                              Senior Player
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 2078

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Markwebbos
                              Neil Cordy suggests Towers and Melican are in danger of being replaced by Rohan / Dawson & Aliir.
                              Cordy has good inside info. But, my God, considering that, he can sometimes be spectacularly wrong.

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                              • Markwebbos
                                Veterans List
                                • Jul 2016
                                • 7186

                                #60
                                Originally posted by royboy42
                                Cordy has good inside info. But, my God, considering that, he can sometimes be spectacularly wrong.
                                I'd be really surprised to see Melican dropped for Aliir as he's looked pretty solid to me.

                                Like the idea of Marsh becoming Nick Smiths's replacement

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