Squash him like a Bugg!

[S.S. Bleeder]

I am glad the NFL have banned him for life because that was one of the lowest acts I have ever seen on a footy field.

I see he has "stood down" from his role at the AFL. He should have been summarily dismissed but because he is Ahmed's bro don't be surprised if he gets a second chance

If a clubs board member stands down because he did drugs (and rightly so), then there is no way known that someone in AFL senior management behaving in this manner can keep their job. This is especially the case when that someone is preaching to us on how we should treat people others. Extremely hypocritical.

I just found out yesterday that they were brothers. Ahmed was incompetent in NAB and was incompetent at Aussie Post as well. Decrease delivery frequencies, increase postage charges, do what your competition (ie couriers) are doing and all of a sudden it produces profits. Gee, even I could have done that, for only $250k p.a., 1/20th of what he was on.

[stevoswan]

Well, I see Fahour has stood down from his Diversity position at the AFL... Fahour quits AFL after local footy league ban - AFL.com.au ..........and got hit with a 14 week ban, which coupled with previous bans, automatically bans him in playing in any football league in the country. Game over.........maybe it is for Bugg as well. Tadgh K seems to think so. Post edit: I see I was a bit late on this......

[Club 80]

If a clubs board member stands down because he did drugs (and rightly so), then there is no way known that someone in AFL senior management behaving in this manner can keep their job. This is especially the case when that someone is preaching to us on how we should treat people others. Extremely hypocritical.

I just found out yesterday that they were brothers. Ahmed was incompetent in NAB and was incompetent at Aussie Post as well. Decrease delivery frequencies, increase postage charges, do what your competition (ie couriers) are doing and all of a sudden it produces profits. Gee, even I could have done that, esp for $5m p.a.

I think if Ali has left the organisation, the statement would have said resigned.

Stood down could have meant sabitical.

The more I read about Houli and Fahour defending each other and getting prominent Australian's to defend them the more impressed I am with Thomas Bugg.

He doesn't have the PM on his side, but has made contact with the Swans and shown respect to Mills and his family. He has copped it and Melbourne have let him cop it alone.

Houli and Fahour have sung each other praises and enlisted top level support. I'm sure there has been a whole lot more behind the scenes.

Tom did the wrong thing, but has been owned his actions. I can't say the same about Houli and Fahour.

[Mug Punter]

I think if Ali has left the organisation, the statement would have said resigned.

Stood down could have meant sabitical.

The more I read about Houli and Fahour defending each other and getting prominent Australian's to defend them the more impressed I am with Thomas Bugg.

He doesn't have the PM on his side, but has made contact with the Swans and shown respect to Mills and his family. He has copped it and Melbourne have let him cop it alone.

Houli and Fahour have sung each other praises and enlisted top level support. I'm sure there has been a whole lot more behind the scenes.

Tom did the wrong thing, but has been owned his actions. I can't say the same about Houli and Fahour.

Oh Matt your GPS white privilege cannot help itself can it

I am prepared to give Houli the benefit of the doubt and I sincerely hope he is not booed upon his return.

I do think his use of Walid Aly was ill advised....

Houli was just very very careless, recklessly so but I do think it was largely a reflex action. I see Bugg's as much more serious.

PLus Houli's unblemished record was genuinely impressive whereas Bugg has form as a Grub.

Again I really hope that Houli, once he has served his fair sentence, does not get booed. Especially by us of all fans and if it does take hold I hope we take a stand against it when we play them next.

[Mug Punter]

I once got punched in the back of the head by a player while I was face down on the ground. Luckily there was no damage. I gave him a huge spray. He was Angelo Saxon.

Italian-Australian I assume.

[Danzar]

Italian-Australian I assume.

Mug, I get your comment as a play on C80's misspelling of Anglo, but this thread overall is straying into territory it shouldn't. Let's leave that out please.

[goswannies]

Mods seem to be working overtime tonight - particularly on this thread! Thank you for your good & tireless work

[Ludwig]

I'm heading back to the Sandpit and reserve my spot. It could be getting crowded there soon.

[0918330512]

I'm heading back to the Sandpit and reserve my spot. It could be getting crowded there soon.

[Danzar]

I'm heading back to the Sandpit and reserve my spot. It could be getting crowded there soon.

Yes, well the Sandpit has always been there if people want to smash out the more contentious stuff.

And it's never been crowded.

[Hotpotato]

I've never heard of Ali Fahour ... until recently .
Good luck to him trying to find a job now though .
Who was your last employer ?
The AFL.
What was your job ?
Diversity Manager.
What's that?
I sorted people.
Oh, I've just looked you up on the internet .
Sorry , we don't have any positions available at the present time but good luck in your future endeavours .

[superswannie]

I agree and let's face it, it mirrors the 'coward punch' or 'one punch attack' and pretty much all of the public wants that stamped out, pronto. As I said in an earlier post, if it happened outside a pub or nightclub, the penalty and consequences could/would be far worse. Refreshing to see the AFL get something right for a change.......[emoji2]

I don't really agree with your nightclub analogy. The difference is that in a nightclub people get boozed up and situations escalate - no excuse for thuggery there but the unpredictable is almost predictable due to the booze.

On the footy field, there are rules and the players know it is against the rules to unexpectedly punch someone in the face. Then there's kids. Kids don't really see what happens at the pub/club but the afl want their code to be watched and played by every kid across the country. What parent wants to send their kid off to play a game where if the example of the codes elite players is followed, it means your little jonny or ginny could get knocked out for no reason at all? Not me, Jim.

Btw I'm interested in Barry Hall's mea culpa about the staker incident. Not sure if the afl asked him to consider making a statement on his induction to the HOF, but it was good to see him say that he was ashamed of what he did. That was an awful incident.

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[Beerman]

I think if Ali has left the organisation, the statement would have said resigned.

Stood down could have meant sabitical.

The more I read about Houli and Fahour defending each other and getting prominent Australian's to defend them the more impressed I am with Thomas Bugg.

He doesn't have the PM on his side, but has made contact with the Swans and shown respect to Mills and his family. He has copped it and Melbourne have let him cop it alone.

Houli and Fahour have sung each other praises and enlisted top level support. I'm sure there has been a whole lot more behind the scenes.

Tom did the wrong thing, but has been owned his actions. I can't say the same about Houli and Fahour.

To be fair Houli did plead guilty and apologised to Lamb. The character references were more about demonstrating that it was inconsistent with his character, that he was remorseful and arguing for a lower penalty, which I'm ok with. I agree with Damien Barrett though, that they might have been a bit too clever for their own good, in that if he took 3 weeks initially the AFL wouldn't have appealed, but as it was he ended up with four.

On the other hand, Bugg did come out immediately after the incident and say "I didn't mean to hurt him", and Nathan Jones was saying things like "inconsistent with his character". Maybe that was him fumbling for words in the immediate aftermath, but those statements don't speak of owning the crime.

I agree that Bugg showed a lot of class at the tribunal though. That might have been more about the fact that he was always going to get 5 or 6, particularly after the AFL appeal, so the club figured he might as well come out of it not looking like a complete tool.

I'm finding it hard to "read" Bugg. On the one hand, his behaviour has been terrible. But I don't know what to make of the fact that it seemed to be weighing on his mind during the game, or his behaviour at the tribunal. I guess not knowing him personally I'll never know what sort of person he is, and in the end I'm not much fussed. I hope he cleans up on the field though.

(PS. I got the joke about him being responsible for Fahour's behaviour too, so at least one person understood. )

[dimelb]

... I'm finding it hard to "read" Bugg. On the one hand, his behaviour has been terrible. But I don't know what to make of the fact that it seemed to be weighing on his mind during the game, or his behaviour at the tribunal. I guess not knowing him personally I'll never know what sort of person he is, and in the end I'm not much fussed. I hope he cleans up on the field though. ...

We should be careful about diagnosing at a distance, but I wouldn't be surprised if Bugg is deeply regretting a tendency to act impulsively. Not at all uncommon, and can afflict old and young alike. Can also be followed by remorse, a step in the right direction, as shown by BBH.

[Sandridge]

We should be careful about diagnosing at a distance, but I wouldn't be surprised if Bugg is deeply regretting a tendency to act impulsively. Not at all uncommon, and can afflict old and young alike. Can also be followed by remorse, a step in the right direction, as shown by BBH.

I think the fact he meekly accepted the shoving and ragdolling he got from aggrieved Swans players showed he knew he'd REALLY overstepped the mark. Problem was he'd got away with lesser indiscretions before. Posting an online "we're coming to get you" warning for a Bulldog player was seen by a lot of media people as an acceptable thing to do. And in the game against the Bulldogs, he started a push/shove and then got a free kick goal when the retaliator was caught by the ump. He probably thought he was teflon man!