Changes for Round 17 v GWS

[Blood Fever]

I don't understand the criticism of Nic Newman. Even with the few kicking errors he made last game, he was still much better than Hannebery. But I understand that Hanners was playing with a corked thigh and is a star of the team. Newman's defensive work has not dropped whatsoever during this stretch of 8 consecutive games he's played. The previous game v Melbourne he had 25 disposals, 8 marks and 5 tackles and was one our better players. In the Essendon game, he kicked 2 critical goals that helped get us over the line. So what is the criticism about, other than a few miskicks that every player makes from time to time?

I'm very pleased that we selected Ollie Florent in the draft and he shows all the signs that he will have a very good career. But except for a few moments of good play in each game, he hasn't produced all that much this year and looks very much a rookie player getting adjusted to AFL footy. Even if Aliir is not chosen this week, there are still several other players, including Marsh and Laidler, who would contribute more than Florent has. We are heading into a very tough part of fixture and we have to be playing our best players for here on.

Agree re Newman, Ludwig. Think you are a little bit tough on Florent. Obviously struggling a bit the last 2 weeks and should go out this week but has produced flashes of class with ball in hand including goal assists and a crucial goal against Essendon. Also his pressuring is very good for a young player. Is struggling physically a bit at the moment as a young player but I feel he has shown enough for me to think he will be a gun.

[The Big Cat]

Pity that Membrey will be our for our game. Usually contributes zilch against us (or any other decent team when the heat is on).

[Beerman]

Agree re Newman, Ludwig. Think you are a little bit tough on Florent. Obviously struggling a bit the last 2 weeks and should go out this week but has produced flashes of class with ball in hand including goal assists and a crucial goal against Essendon. Also his pressuring is very good for a young player. Is struggling physically a bit at the moment as a young player but I feel he has shown enough for me to think he will be a gun.

Just to summarise this thread so far. There is a debate about whether Florent will be gun or just bloody good, and lots of discussion about whether Newman has just made a few missed kicks vs. being slightly off his early-season performance.

Pretty indicative of where the Swans are at in my book...not doing too badly!

[Ludwig]

Think you are a little bit tough on Florent. Obviously struggling a bit the last 2 weeks and should go out this week but has produced flashes of class with ball in hand including goal assists and a crucial goal against Essendon. Also his pressuring is very good for a young player. Is struggling physically a bit at the moment as a young player but I feel he has shown enough for me to think he will be a gun.

I think it's been a great experience for Florent to have played so many senior games in his first year and will go a long way to making him a better player. I am not being critical of his play. It was toss up for me whether he would be better than Jai Simpkin, who went to NM, but having seen both play, I think we did very well with Florent. I just feel that given we are in much better shape on the injury front, we can bring in more physically mature players for the run home.

I can't imagine Hayward coming into the side after not playing 2 weeks. That aside, he's probably shown more than Florent, but I would still go with any of Aliir, Marsh, Laidler or Cunningham (when fit).

[Blood Fever]

Fair call Ludwig. The exciting thing is that we have a number of excellent young players.

[AB Swannie]

Any chance this thread can return to discussion about team changes for the upcoming game?

[Mug Punter]

Any chance this thread can return to discussion about team changes for the upcoming game?

+1, take it to the GWS board if you want to bag our fans

[liz]

I've moved the more generic posts about the game to a separate thread. This one can now be kept for discussions about team selection.

[Mel_C]

My change for this week:

Out: Jason Dunstall

He was unbearable yet again. If only you can mute the commentators and just hear the crowd and umpires.

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[Boddo]

My change for this week:

Out: Jason Dunstall

He was unbearable yet again. If only you can mute the commentators and just hear the crowd and umpires.

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I've emailed Foxtel a number of times requesting this be bought back. Dunstall like a lot of commentators are from a bygone era when every non Victorian club should be thankful they aloud them in their comp. laughable considering dunstall is from Queensland. The quicker the media gets dragged into modern national footy the better.

[barry]

It will be the foxtel b team. Dwayne, piggy, breaton.... Pick your poison.

[India'sDad]

It will be the foxtel b team. Dwayne, piggy, breaton.... Pick your poison.

All the more reason to go to the game if in Sydney - don't have to listen to any of them.

[sidswan]

Rampe will really have to be wary, l hope he was watching On the Couch last night... David King thinks the umpires should police his defensive work.

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Sorry, just found this covered in another thread

[0918330512]

My change for this week:

Out: Jason Dunstall

He was unbearable yet again. If only you can mute the commentators and just hear the crowd and umpires.

There is, go to the game

[Mel_C]

There is, go to the game

Not possible I live in Melbourne ????.