Match Day Thread Rnd 17 GWS V Sydney. Spotless Stadium 19.25 pm.

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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    Originally posted by Club 80
    I need to pull you up on Phil Davis. Alex Rance is the "GOAT" fullback of the AFL game. Dustin Fletcher said Rance was the "GOAT" fullback.
    Dustin Fletcher is a drug cheat.

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    • mcs
      Travelling Swannie!!
      • Jul 2007
      • 8161

      Originally posted by Club 80
      A Herald Sun poll also demonstrated that Rance was the "GOAT" fullback. He led the poll with 32% of the vote ahead of modern day greats Scarlett and Silvagni.

      As our Canberra residents would understand, newspaper opinion polls are the only truth and Rance won the "GOAT" fullback poll.
      One day, you'll be cracking your 'wise guy' jokes at your backyard parties or bbq or whatever social events you have, and you'll suddenly realise that people weren't laughing along with you for all these years....

      Anyway, back onto the game and topic. I did enjoy my first visit to the Showgrounds - a pretty decent venue overall (though the people in front of me were not impressed with forking out $80 for a ticket to find basically a significantly restricted view because of those very tall wirey stair railings). Nice choice of food options, though both the pie shop and the dessert bar were a bit of a let down, and it was slow old service once it got busy.

      It was a tough grinding game, and while it never felt comfortable, I thought we were in control for large chunks of it, but could never quite find the killer blow, right up until Papley's 3rd goal. Excellent performances from Buddy and Kennedy (especially in the 4th quarter), and lots of good solid play across the team. I was disappointed a bit in the giants. They still are frighteningly good when they have the chance to control the ball and use their pace and elite skills through midfield. However (and maybe it is the outs in their team) they really are a bit lost looking going forward at the moment - no doubt emphasised by Cameron being out as well. It would be a huge worry for Leon Cameron I would of thought going towards the finals.

      I did enjoy a good chuckle when they blasted over the loudspeaker in the last quarter that the game was officially a 'sell out'. It was great it was a record crowd, but there is something seriously wrong with Ticketmaster's computer systems if that was a 'sell out' - that or about 5,000 people didn't come along (I know a portion of that would be seats kept for Giants Members/other applicable membership groups, but no way could that explain all the empty seats).

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      Originally posted by Nico
      Hey Baz, if the rumour is correct they sure did an ordinary job. There were a couple of very obvious high tackles to us that weren't paid. Jack was held in a dead set sleeper hold at one point. While on him; he has been a welcome inclusion and has been good but can someone tell him to kick through the footy. He stabs at the footy with dinky little kicks to players that are surrounded by opposition players. Seriously, Custer was under less pressure.

      We made a lot of foolish kicking decisions in the first half when not under pressure. We have to improve that part of our game big time.
      We need to tell Baz that G Man is not a reliable source of information and rumours about 'fairytale status'

      I thought the game had too many free kicks - was it 51 in total, making it a bit stop start. We got the better of the count in most respects last night - though I thought Mummy got away with quite a lot in the ruck, especially in the first couple of quarters. But unless they consistently apply the rules across a game (Which last night probably would have seen 70+ frees), I wish they'd put the whistle away a bit. No doubt that'll happen in the finals.

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      Originally posted by AB Swannie
      Now back on topic, it is scary how we got beaten in clearances last night. JPK is awesome but I feel that we are a bit slow when we have Parker and Hanners in the centre too. I really like the look of Paps at centre bounces to provide explosive power and pace.
      GWS really are elite in the clearance part of the game these days - we had no answer till the last quarter when JPK really took a step up. I feel we are better equipped than many teams to deal with getting beaten in that part of the game, while our defence is playing so well, but good teams will eventually punish you if we see one-sidedness in there like there was at patches last night, especially coming from the centre bounce.
      "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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      • wolftone57
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2008
        • 5851

        Originally posted by Maltopia
        Hey guys, does anyone have the link that allows you to watch replays of matches from the AFL website?
        Yes if you go to Big Footy. The Replay reference Centre is a post there that gives links to the replay. In fact it has replays of every game from 2000 onward. This game is up now.

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        • 0918330512
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2011
          • 1654

          Originally posted by Club 80
          I became a fully vested Swans supporter around 05.

          In recent times my support has been tested due to a myriad of online struggles I've had with Swans supporters sites.

          Some Swans supporters have hit me pretty hard, but I still love the Swans.

          I've even bought my wife a half membership to go with the memberships that I have and my son has.

          I believe now that I'm a fully rusted on Swans supporter. To keep coming back to the Swans after some of the feral treatment that some Swans supporters have dealt me shows that my love for the Swans is incorruptible.
          Originally posted by mcs
          What makes you or Dustin fletcher some sort of definitive truth on the matter?

          Sure go ahead and disagree, but you could lose the dismissive 'god' like doctrine tone to go with it...
          Originally posted by mcs
          One day, you'll be cracking your 'wise guy' jokes at your backyard parties or bbq or whatever social events you have, and you'll suddenly realise that people weren't laughing along with you for all these years....
          Let him be mcs, from the top post it's probably matt80. If so, that's how he writes & always has.

          He has alienated people in the past (though it would seem it was more their doing than his ), been banned & come back several in several incarnations. But far as I can tell, he generally means well, loves footy & his multiple memberships suggest he's as much a Swans supporter as anyone else here.

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          • Nico
            Veterans List
            • Jan 2003
            • 11336

            Late in the game one of the commentators commented on the even stats of our mids. So I have checked the stats today.

            Hanners 22, Jack 22, Heeney 18, Parker 22, Kennedy 28 (11 last Q), Hewett 14. Although we don't see Lloyd as a mid he was down to 22.

            Trying to analyse this is not that easy. Was it because we were playing an even team? Was it because it was down to a one on one contest? Did some our players get tagged? Did Hewett have a run with role?

            Their mids had more of the footy, or so it seems. Scully 28, Ward 32, Shiel 32, Kelly 27. Clearances; them 56 us 32. That is a big difference. Disposal effectiveness them 69% us 70%.

            They were clearly much better at the stoppages and flogged us all game out of the centre bar the last quarter, when Kennedy got going. May have even won as the game. I am thinking that we were able to slow the game up a bit. Certainly our kicking to position was much better in the second half. I seem to think that the difference in the game was our outstanding defence.

            One thing of concern was their ability to kick goals in the last 2 minutes of every quarter.

            I thought Naismith's game was very good. No doubt he diluted Mummy's influence around the ground. Hit outs were; Naismith 47 Mummy 51. Contested well all game and has a big tank. Not a great stats getter but does his job. Pity our mids couldn't take advantage at centre bounces. Ward was ferocious at those contests and it bemuses me why our blokes let him go first or couldn't get there first.

            Callum Mills looks like he is still feeling the effects of concussion. Game looks a little dull around the edges.
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            • aardvark
              Veterans List
              • Mar 2010
              • 5685

              Bit of a whisper going around that Hanners has O.P. It would explain a lot imo.

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              • CureTheSane
                Carpe Noctem
                • Jan 2003
                • 5032

                What's O.P.?
                My first thought was osteoporosis. Hope that's not the case

                Hanners near the end of the game kind of gave up when on the mark. Like he was over it, or maybe over some confining injury.
                The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                • dimelb
                  pr. dim-melb; m not f
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 6889

                  Originally posted by CureTheSane
                  What's O.P.?
                  My first thought was osteoporosis. Hope that's not the case

                  Hanners near the end of the game kind of gave up when on the mark. Like he was over it, or maybe over some confining injury.
                  I think osteitis pubis.
                  He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                  • wolftone57
                    Veterans List
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 5851

                    Originally posted by 707
                    Job done but GWS have a long injury list of best 22 players so that's a sobering thought. Always seemed to have their measure but they are so talent laden they kept pegging us back out of nothing plays. Nice to beat them again, glad Toby Stupid Face was kept quieter after his initial burst.

                    Next week it looks like Rohan is ok but Reid is doubtful. Robinson had a lot of tackles but just doesn't get the ball enough or have a high skill level so must be on shaky ground. At home so I'd bring in Dawson who gives us something different up forward and Hayward who brings pace, skill and x factor.

                    GWS Injury list looks impressive but when you actually investigate it a bit more you see this;

                    Buntime & Kennedy are gone for the year and like our position with AJ for a long time can't be considered anyway. So we take them from the equation. If they are not going to be able to return this year they are not list depth until next year.

                    Greene, Johnson & Williams all played so take them off.

                    That leaves Coniglio & griffin as definitely best 22 who are still injured.

                    Developing players Hopper, Taranto & Himmelberg as developing players. Although I swear I saw the number 14(Taranto) playing in the reserves.

                    Mohr & Reid are depth players.

                    Findlayson is not probably AFL level at this time.

                    Tiziani played reserves and that will be his lot this year as the older players return.

                    As for the swans Robbo did the job asked of him as a defensive forward and even managed a goal so I think horse will be pleased with his game.

                    If Reid doesn't get up for next week we have a few options. We have to be certain we don't isolate Bud as the only tall forward. That is a disaster as the opposition just set three on him and don't worry about the consequences. If we do that we have to make sure we have numbers at Bud's feet. Too many times that spare man or spare men are not anywhere near Bud when the ball is delivered long. But the other option is to be smart and use the free players.

                    But the alternative is to have another tall come in. The options are, remember we are looking for a forward not a back, so Marsh is not an option what's more his set shots are diabolical;

                    Aliir -- Has been playing a utility role in the reserves and is starting to kick very good goals. He ticks all boxes, he is a key position player & is now playing forward

                    Rose -- Has been playing very well in the reserves. He is not a key position player but is a handy forward. The only doubt is whether he can replicate his reserves form in the seniors. The other doubt is is workrate, he can be lazy.

                    Dawson -- Can play forward and rests there in the reserves and kicks goals. The advantage is that he will give you an extra mid who is huge for a mid at 191cm. He is a very good kick so if we can give him the ball he will kick goals or deliver to a teammate. He is more a third tall but would not be out of place as a key leading forward who can also take a huge grab.

                    Hayward -- He is a very good goal kicker. But cannot play the key forward role because at AFL level he is just too light at this stage. But he does add that X factor. He took a really great contested mark between two opponents yesterday and kicked a very good goal.

                    That's all folks. Take your pick on the type of team you want to play saints next week.

                    By the way if Smithy goes on a short holiday, can't see that happening as he has no form, then marsh, who has not played that well, would probably come in as Murray (Reserves Back Pocket) is only a Rookie.

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                    • aardvark
                      Veterans List
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 5685

                      Originally posted by dimelb
                      I think osteitis pubis.
                      yes.
                      Osteitis Pubis is a common cause of chronic groin pain in the football codes. It is an overuse injury. That is, it is caused by repeated trauma rather than a specific incident. However, it is not uncommon for a specific incident to trigger the symptoms.
                      Osteitis Pubis

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                      • Mug Punter
                        On the Rookie List
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 3325

                        Originally posted by Club 80
                        I haven't seen the game yet due to a Netflix binge date with my wife.
                        Says it all really....

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                        • 707
                          Veterans List
                          • Aug 2009
                          • 6204

                          To clear up previous posts, the Best 22 missing for GWS who may come back for them by finals, Cameron, Griffin, Deledio, Coniglio, Hopper, Taranto, although a couple of these are likely to not be ready. So some extra firepower for GWS at the pointy end.

                          OP can be a lingering debilitating complaint, hope the rumour isn't true as no leeway to rest Hanners now.

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                          • Hotpotato
                            Senior Player
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 2267

                            Am I spending way too much time checking the ladder ? Certainly way more than Horse.

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                            • Club 80
                              Suspended by the MRP
                              • Apr 2017
                              • 149

                              Originally posted by Mug Punter
                              Says it all really....
                              It was good fun mate. Spending quality time with the wife is the most important thing. We caught up with some Suits and started watching this series called The Handmaids Tale.

                              I've just finished reviewing the 1st half. The pressure is incredible from the Swans, the Swans look very well drilled by coach Longmire and Buddy provides that extra class. Also very pleasing to see K. Jack playing so well. He looks like he is running on top of the ground.

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                              • giant
                                Veterans List
                                • Mar 2005
                                • 4731

                                Originally posted by Nico
                                I thought Naismith's game was very good. No doubt he diluted Mummy's influence around the ground. Hit outs were; Naismith 47 Mummy 51. Contested well all game and has a big tank. Not a great stats getter but does his job. Pity our mids couldn't take advantage at centre bounces. Ward was ferocious at those contests and it bemuses me why our blokes let him go first or couldn't get there first.
                                Agree on Naismith, many of Mummy's HOs would have been vs Towers or Parker (or indeed no one at all!).

                                What's people's views on the one ruckman policy? Is it working? Is it sustainable? I feel uncomfortable about it but we do keep winning.

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