Nick Newman's brother Mav on 360

[Boddo]

Frankly I think only an extreme minority care about whether someone is gay or not these days. Even in my younger days I didn't really care, infact, I always had the belief that the more gay men the better because that meant more single women ????.

To this day I still have no problem with homosexuality. The issue I have, and many people have, is with how PC BS in general is constantly shoved down our throats and moreso how those who disagree with it are treated by the hypocritically intolerant PC crowd (that includes the AFL). Just look at how Margaret Court was treated. The gay lobby were the worst offenders in that situation.

PC BS!! In ten years if you say "he's to short to play key forward" you'll get people telling you that your heightist. ???????? shouldn't laugh cause it'll probably come true

[dimelb]

This all makes Ian Roberts the NRL player who came out in the mid nineties all the more courageous. He was an awesome player tougher than tough and came up through the South Sydney juniors, a system not noted for acceptance of anything that could be construed as effeminate. He copped plenty for doing so but he was such an outstanding player and so physically dominant that he ended up being just broadly admired. He is still revered but the NRL crowd for his actions.

It was a brave move by Roberts. "Revered" is right.

Not to undervalue his courage, but when you're 196 cm and 115 kg not too many people are going to be rude to you!

And on the subject of Margaret Court, I wouldn't change the name of the venue. She has a very limited understanding of the Bible, an issue wonderfully taken up by President Jed Bartlet in season 1 of The West Wing.

[Markwebbos]

Frankly I think only an extreme minority care about whether someone is gay or not these days. Even in my younger days I didn't really care, infact, I always had the belief that the more gay men the better because that meant more single women ????.

To this day I still have no problem with homosexuality. The issue I have, and many people have, is with how PC BS in general is constantly shoved down our throats and moreso how those who disagree with it are treated by the hypocritically intolerant PC crowd (that includes the AFL). Just look at how Margaret Court was treated. The gay lobby were the worst offenders in that situation.

You don't have a problem with homosexuality BUT...

[S.S. Bleeder]

You don't have a problem with homosexuality BUT...

You can't read? Get your facts straight if you're going to attack the man.

I have no problem with homosexuality. I do have a problem with the loony left (ie, the gay lobby, the Greens, et al) that push it and the bullying manner in which they push it. Simple enough for you to understand now?

[Markwebbos]

How do the loony left / gay lobby push their "agenda" exactly?

[grarmy]

This all makes Ian Roberts the NRL player who came out in the mid nineties all the more courageous. He was an awesome player tougher than tough and came up through the South Sydney juniors, a system not noted for acceptance of anything that could be construed as effeminate. He copped plenty for doing so but he was such an outstanding player and so physically dominant that he ended up being just broadly admired. He is still revered but the NRL crowd for his actions.

Hmmmm. Roberts didn't cut it with me. There are dark places in his head. You wouldn't like to be in the same room as this guy. During one game he pummelled Kieran Jack's father in a terrifying, brutal frenzy that was so horrible it left onlookers nauseous. After retirement, Gary Jack successfully sued him - $10k in an out of court settlement. Citing this bloke as some sort of gay inspiration leaves me sick to the stomach. Should have been gaoled.

[grarmy]

Frankly I think only an extreme minority care about whether someone is gay or not these days. Even in my younger days I didn't really care, infact, I always had the belief that the more gay men the better because that meant more single women ????.

To this day I still have no problem with homosexuality. The issue I have, and many people have, is with how PC BS in general is constantly shoved down our throats and moreso how those who disagree with it are treated by the hypocritically intolerant PC crowd (that includes the AFL). Just look at how Margaret Court was treated. The gay lobby were the worst offenders in that situation.

Damn right.

[snajik]

You can't read? Get your facts straight if you're going to attack the man.

I have no problem with homosexuality. I do have a problem with the loony left (ie, the gay lobby, the Greens, et al) that push it and the bullying manner in which they push it. Simple enough for you to understand now?

So to treat people with courtesy and respect makes you loony and / or leftist?

[top40]

Frankly I think only an extreme minority care about whether someone is gay or not these days. Even in my younger days I didn't really care, infact, I always had the belief that the more gay men the better because that meant more single women ????.

To this day I still have no problem with homosexuality. The issue I have, and many people have, is with how PC BS in general is constantly shoved down our throats and moreso how those who disagree with it are treated by the hypocritically intolerant PC crowd (that includes the AFL). Just look at how Margaret Court was treated. The gay lobby were the worst offenders in that situation.

I find it very sad to read about how Margaret Court expresses being 'bullied' in the context of public debate. There is also such a pathetic irony here, notably related to some of her recent self initiated and very public comments relating to a criticism of the parenting of parents of transgender children!

In the course of her arguments she relied on analogies with the Nazis, and the use of those classic right wing conservative words of defence: "bullying" and "politically correct"

Margaret Court had a right to say whatever she wants, (and recently she sure did publically and more than once). I equally have the right to disagree with her. That does not make me a bully.

Perhaps one should view Cate McGregor's extraordinarily impassioned but very well reasoned response to Mrs Court that was broadcast on the ABC program "The Drum" on 1st June 2017. Worth a look through YouTube.

[Mug Punter]

You don't have a problem with homosexuality BUT...

+1

[Mug Punter]

You can't read? Get your facts straight if you're going to attack the man.

I have no problem with homosexuality. I do have a problem with the loony left (ie, the gay lobby, the Greens, et al) that push it and the bullying manner in which they push it. Simple enough for you to understand now?

Are you serious?

How do you expect people to take your post when on one hand you say you're fine with homosexuality (in the Rex Mossop sense I suspect) but on the other hand come on here, on a post that is based on tolerance and respect, and start defending Margaret Court who has almost universally offended the gay community? Or are they just being too PC for your liking?

Unbelievable.....

Probably best to take right wing posts like that to a political forum and leave it off RWO

[Mug Punter]

Hmmmm. Roberts didn't cut it with me. There are dark places in his head. You wouldn't like to be in the same room as this guy. During one game he pummelled Kieran Jack's father in a terrifying, brutal frenzy that was so horrible it left onlookers nauseous. After retirement, Gary Jack successfully sued him - $10k in an out of court settlement. Citing this bloke as some sort of gay inspiration leaves me sick to the stomach. Should have been gaoled.

It was terrible, and you are right he should have been jailed, and he has since expressed his shame about that. And the fact Gary was taunting him endlessly with gay insults does not excuse his behaviour.

The bigger dog with that incident, in my opinion, was Matthew Ridge who pinned Jack's arms behind him as Roberts assaulted him.

[Mel]

You can't read? Get your facts straight if you're going to attack the man.

I have no problem with homosexuality. I do have a problem with the loony left (ie, the gay lobby, the Greens, et al) that push it and the bullying manner in which they push it. Simple enough for you to understand now?

I work in a field where we promote diversity and acceptance. I thought I had a fairly open mind and understood what minority groups stand for and have suffered through. After undertaking training where I was exposed to the lived experiences of some of the LGBTIQ community (and other training that exposed me to stories from ethnic minorities) I can say as a hetero white person, I had no freaking idea. And I have gay friends and relatives, but these kind of stories aren't things that are shared around the dinner table. The training I had gave me a perspective that I had never had before and I'm not surprised that there is still such a huge drive from the 'gay lobby'. I think it's easy to take our privelege as a majority for granted, so much so that you don't' even realise that you ARE priveleged. I was reading some of the comments on the article about Pride Round (stupid mistake I know), and somebody actually asked when White Hetero Day/Round was going to be. It's every freaking day!

'They' are still pushing because they have to. It's not about being PC it's about normalising and equality.

[CureTheSane]

You don't have a problem with homosexuality BUT...

I think that is harsh, and trying to twist what he said into some passive homophobia.
I also think that deserves an apology.

I have issues with the way in which society thinks it is best to remove homophobia and allow complete acceptance of all people regardless of their sexuality.
Nothing to do with the issue, all about the way in which change is being brought on.

[CureTheSane]

I work in a field where we promote diversity and acceptance. I thought I had a fairly open mind and understood what minority groups stand for and have suffered through. After undertaking training where I was exposed to the lived experiences of some of the LGBTIQ community (and other training that exposed me to stories from ethnic minorities) I can say as a hetero white person, I had no freaking idea. And I have gay friends and relatives, but these kind of stories aren't things that are shared around the dinner table. The training I had gave me a perspective that I had never had before and I'm not surprised that there is still such a huge drive from the 'gay lobby'. I think it's easy to take our privelege as a majority for granted, so much so that you don't' even realise that you ARE priveleged. I was reading some of the comments on the article about Pride Round (stupid mistake I know), and somebody actually asked when White Hetero Day/Round was going to be. It's every freaking day!

'They' are still pushing because they have to. It's not about being PC it's about normalising and equality.

Everything you said becomes relatively insignificant until the government gets its act together.
When people are treated differently by our government, it allows a normality or an excuse to be prejudiced.
The government are the 2 tonne boulder tied behind the car speeding to the equality finish line...