Swans vs Saints match discussion

[Club 80]

Look the Maggots have always been the enemy. They can be an ally or an enemy depending on their decisions. But footy fans have always viewed the umpires with distrust, much like politicians, car salesman, real estate agents etc. What else can they be? They have the power to influence games much like a politician has the power to influence the way you live. Are they always trusted to make the right decisions? Of course not. So they go from being a non entity to enemy in a millisecond. The best umpiring is when you don't notice them. That means they have done a good job. But unfortunately umpires today are so tragically bad, especially with incorrect disposal, that I cringe at many decisions let alone at the non decisions, especially incorrect disposal. The standard of umpiring is not helped by the AFL Rules committee and having to interpret rules like deliberate out of bounds, deliberate rushed behind and being told they can't police incorrect disposal because they can't see it by the CEO.

The use of the word enemy is very strong. I think it's more appropriately used for Pablo Escobar v The DEA rather than a football umpire.

I call upon you Wolftone to reassess your use of the word enemy.

Speaking about umpires in that light is detrimental to the game. Without dedicated officials there is no game and no enjoyment. Umpires make mistakes like you and I. Nobody is perfect.

You can say in a respectful tone to the person next to you "I think that was the incorrect decision by Umpire Chamberlin, but I'll have to watch the replay tonight to be sure".

That is a respectful, dignified and classy response.

We don't want out dedicated officials to be lambasted with booing, swearing and abusive behaviour. I think we can be better than that.

[Club 80]

That's what happens when one thinks they are a demigod 09183305 - you just can't relate to the common man.....

The common man can occasionally be encouraged to behave in a more dignified and classy manner. Stopping the booing at sporting events is an action that the common man can take to make the world a better place.

Adam Goodes did not like the booing. I think Adam would encourage you all to stop all varieties of booing at AFL venues.

As a Swans fan you can all build on Adams heartbreaking journey by refusing to boo opposition players or officials.

Stop the booing and you honour Adam Goodes.

Continue to boo and you honour Sam Newman.

The choice is yours.

[bodgie]

Strewth. Bbbbboooooooo Bbooooooooo! Footy at its best has theatre. Theatre has heroes and villains. Heroes get cheered. Villains get booed. Sometimes the difference is not clear, sometimes its in the eye of the beholder. Once we start watching footy with intellectual rigour, political correctness, and steadfast non-commital appreciation of both teams skills without favour.... blah blah blah

[Bloods05]

The use of the word enemy is very strong. I think it's more appropriately used for Pablo Escobar v The DEA rather than a football umpire.

I call upon you Wolftone to reassess your use of the word enemy.

Speaking about umpires in that light is detrimental to the game. Without dedicated officials there is no game and no enjoyment. Umpires make mistakes like you and I. Nobody is perfect.

You can say in a respectful tone to the person next to you "I think that was the incorrect decision by Umpire Chamberlin, but I'll have to watch the replay tonight to be sure".

That is a respectful, dignified and classy response.

We don't want out dedicated officials to be lambasted with booing, swearing and abusive behaviour. I think we can be better than that.

Plagiarising Ned Flanders. Disgraceful conduct.

[Doctor]

Continue to boo and you honour Sam Newman.

The choice is yours.

Garbage. There was a bit of booing for a couple of soft frees last night but it's the decisions that receive the razzing, not the umpires themselves. Most people recognise how tough a game footy is to umpire but we also get frustrated when decisions go against us that appear soft, and both teams generally receive a few of those each during a game. Swans fans are pretty fair when we give genuine frees away too, in my experience.

[tutulkaku]

I don't like Riewoldt.
Might even boo him if he lines up for goal. ok

[Mr Magoo]

Look the Maggots have always been the enemy. They can be an ally or an enemy depending on their decisions. But footy fans have always viewed the umpires with distrust, much like politicians, car salesman, real estate agents etc. What else can they be? They have the power to influence games much like a politician has the power to influence the way you live. Are they always trusted to make the right decisions? Of course not. So they go from being a non entity to enemy in a millisecond. The best umpiring is when you don't notice them. That means they have done a good job. But unfortunately umpires today are so tragically bad, especially with incorrect disposal, that I cringe at many decisions let alone at the non decisions, especially incorrect disposal. The standard of umpiring is not helped by the AFL Rules committee and having to interpret rules like deliberate out of bounds, deliberate rushed behind and being told they can't police incorrect disposal because they can't see it by the CEO.

I dont think umpires today are "so tragically bad". The reality is that due to modern technology , every millisecond of a game is analysed and replayed from five different angles both in real time and retrospectively.

I think if you took an old game and applied todays standards to it, you would find as many or even more mistakes by the umpires.

Bad or seemingly unbiased umpiring like last years GF really annoys me , but the odd mistake here and there is part and parcel of human nature and lets face it the game is so fast , decisions need to be made in the blink of an eye, mistakes are going to happen.

I think the biggest problem at the moment is not the umpiring but the constant changes , sometimes weekly, on the laws and the way umpires are told to interpret those laws. If it confuses the people watching , imagine how hard it would be to administer.