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  • barry
    Veterans List
    • Jan 2003
    • 8499

    #31
    Talia

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    • Billericay
      Regular in the Side
      • May 2013
      • 712

      #32
      Originally posted by barry
      Talia
      Really? What about Maibaum?

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      • Mug Punter
        On the Rookie List
        • Nov 2009
        • 3325

        #33
        Originally posted by Ludwig
        Yes, I was just joking on the Longmire/Shaw swap, but I do think we need to play another tall defender to help mitigate getting caught out by some of the more clever coaches who know how to expose this weakness. I'm not sure if Aliir is the answer, but he's the best we have to fill that role and he did play very well in the seniors last year. I think it's worth a try. My idea is to play Aliir in the the role of Mills and move Mills to the midfield. We can only play one of our 3 ruckmen if this happens. Take your pick. Even though I've been critical of him, Sinclair would be my pick of the bunch right now. In the end, it will probably cost Towers his spot.

        This structural change also gives us another tall marking target when kicking out from the goal square, another area we have had trouble with. It would also allow Rampe to play more as an extra in defence as he reads the play well and is good at marking in front of one on one contests. This structure is basically the same as we had back in the days when we played Reg, Ted and LRT as our 3 KPDs and Mattner played the role I propose for Rampe. It makes a lot of sense to me.
        I also think Aliir is on our best 22 as he is so dynamic, but I fear he is running our of time this year and if his form and confidence are dropping that is not a good sign. I was concerned by the way he was wrapped up in strapping last time I swa him in the NEAFL, can't be 100% like that. With a bit of luck he'll come back in 2018 as Aliir V.2017

        I like the idea of him against GWS and Adelaide as both those teams often have three good talls and Aliir on the third KPF would work.

        I just feel Deano may be the bridesmaid in all of this

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        • MattW
          Veterans List
          • May 2011
          • 4193

          #34
          Originally posted by Billericay
          Really? What about Maibaum?
          Melican! Aliir or Maibaum into the third tall spot, depending on development.

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          • bloodspirit
            Clubman
            • Apr 2015
            • 4448

            #35
            Scottee, I agree with your comments.

            I was especially pleased to see someone speaking up for Pink. I entirely agree with your comments about him in particular. Pink has a lot of good points and a lot of upside. It has to be remembered he is something like the 2nd youngest player at the club, still only 18 (even now - although his birthday is on Friday) and is playing a KPF role, the hardest role in the game, especially as a young player. Besides that we have no KPF depth on our list (if you count Cameron as a ruck) and it is the thing we most need and lack. So I hope and expect we'll keep him. But I trust our coaches and list managers much more than anyone here and so, if they did cut him, I would still back their judgment.

            Overall I am a lot more bullish about our depth than you, 707. Such a bonus that we re-signed Dawson. He was one that might have gotten away given that he hasn't broken into the firsts yet and his contract was up.

            I agree Murray is currently the most promising of our rookie prospects, moreso than Fisher.

            It's not looking good for Talia but I don't agree that he is a definite de-list or even that he is definitely behind AJ.

            I don't understand the ongoing calls to 'cut' Kizza or for him to retire. He's not old, he's still best 22, he offers leadership above just his playing ability but, and this is the critical point, he is still CONTRACTED. I think he may still have another 2 years to go and no doubt on a good wage. We can't 'cut' him and why on earth would he want to retire (unless he gets injured or something)?

            I tend to think the end of this season is a good time for Macca to be retired despite his value to the team right now. His soft tissue injuries suggest his time is up. I think the way I might handle it is offer him pretty modest money and warn him he isn't assured of playing seniors and leave the decision to him in the expectation that he might decide to call it a day. I had thought it unthinkable that he would play anywhere else but the talk of him taking on a Sam Mitchell type deal at Carlton does make some sense especially if he wants a career in coaching.

            To me, this thread seems to fall within the existing list management thread and so I think I will re-post my comment there too.
            Last edited by bloodspirit; 7 August 2017, 01:53 PM.
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            • liz
              Veteran
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 16733

              #36
              AJ is already contracted for 2018.

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              • bloodspirit
                Clubman
                • Apr 2015
                • 4448

                #37
                Originally posted by liz
                AJ is already contracted for 2018.
                OK, well that clears that up then. Ahem. Thanks.
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