Sam Reid Contract

[AnnieH]

True dat.
We (and he) would get into a lot of trouble.
Kinda like Tipoff being paid in sausage rolls.

One fan buying Sam a cup of coffee is irrelevant. But if you have a significant number doing the same I can promise you that both the AFL's salary cap watchman and the tax man would be very interested. It would be extra income to him directly related to his role as a Swans player.

[Dosser]

True dat.
We (and he) would get into a lot of trouble.
Kinda like Tipoff being paid in sausage rolls.

Player endorsements dont come under the salary cap, do they? If it did, then players wouldn't be on TV spruiking everything from 'sports' drinks to Lite n Easy. All a player has to do is open another venture (ie a podcast or something) and fans pay a subscripion and there you have it.

Having said that, I worked in Aid and Development for a decade, so when I think of fans giving extra to highly-paid players then it personally turns my stomach.

[Ludwig]

In order to compensate for Sam accepting a minimum wage contract to stay in Sydney, Sam's future wife will become gainfully employed to supplement the family income.

I am pleased to announce that she will be authoring a new column in Ludwig's Footy Journal called Ask Kimmy, where she will be dealing with important matters facing wags, like:

1. Is plastic surgery more likely to attract an AFL or NRL player?
2. How to raise 2 ugly dogs.
3. Projectile dysfunction: How to improve your kicking action.

[AnnieH]

Player endorsements dont come under the salary cap, do they? If it did, then players wouldn't be on TV spruiking everything from 'sports' drinks to Lite n Easy. All a player has to do is open another venture (ie a podcast or something) and fans pay a subscripion and there you have it.

Having said that, I worked in Aid and Development for a decade, so when I think of fans giving extra to highly-paid players then it personally turns my stomach.

I think they do... the AFL have to know about it.
That's why Tipoff and Adelaide got into trouble.

If you look at this article, we've been naughty too... a few times.
It's Wiki, so it's got to be true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL_salary_cap

[barry]

Who said anything about donating to banking CEO's?

How would you feel if your CEO sent an email around asking all employees to chip in an extra $500 each to his salary otherwise he's moving to a competitor.?

[sprite]

How much though?

Personally I am not interested in how much he is paid as it is none of my business.

I'm sure the Swans have assessed his value and have compensated him fairly, within the structure of the salary cap.

Before anyone starts a but... how are we going to keep or recruit . The club will have strategies in place, after all that's their job and what they're paid to do

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How would you feel if your CEO sent an email around asking all employees to chip in an extra $500 each to his salary otherwise he's moving to a competitor.?

I've had a couple of CEO's who I would gladly pay $500 to cover moving expenses.

[S.S. Bleeder]

Ron Joseph (longtime North Melbourne administrator) was on Open Mike last night talking about the pre salary cap days, and
players receiving "signing bonuses" of cash in brown paper bags etc. Since 2001, four teams have won a combined 75% (12 out of
16) of the premierships in that time. There is a lot of talk about equalisation and a level playing field but the spread of premiership
teams is only slightly wider than it was in say the same period before the salary cap came in (1987) and that is with six additional teams
since then.

A person in my employ used to be a senior exec at Visy in the 90's. Most of the Carlton team were working as "Sales Execs" earning $150k plus in todays money and most of the time they'd only work a handful of hours each week.

[stevoswan]

How would you feel if your CEO sent an email around asking all employees to chip in an extra $500 each to his salary otherwise he's moving to a competitor.?

Yes Barry, we all hate over paid CEO's, especially those who run banks ( yes Ian Narev, I'm looking directly at you, you scum) and of course no one would feel good about it or actually do it but I have to say, you take some people's 'joke' suggestions far too seriously......move on.

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Yes Barry, we all hate over paid CEO's, especially those who run banks ( yes Ian Narev, I'm looking directly at you, you scum) and of course no one would feel good about it or actually do it but I have to say, you take some people's 'joke' suggestions far too seriously......move on.

at least someone gets me

[KTigers]

Yes, the Pratt family have been very good to Carlton over the years. There was a bit of fuss re Chris Judd's very well paid work
for Visy too. It's a grey area for sure, but from the player's perspective though, can you blame them?. These guys have got to eat
and a lot of them are only an ACL away from unemployment.

A person in my employ used to be a senior exec at Visy in the 90's. Most of the Carlton team were working as "Sales Execs" earning $150k plus in todays money and most of the time they'd only work a handful of hours each week.

[barry]

Personally I am not interested in how much he is paid as it is none of my business.

I'm sure the Swans have assessed his value and have compensated him fairly, within the structure of the salary cap.

Before anyone starts a but... how are we going to keep or recruit . The club will have strategies in place, after all that's their job and what they're paid to do
.

How can we discuss and judge the worth of the deal of we don't have any details?

[goswannies]

How can we discuss and judge the worth of the deal of we don't have any details?

I, for one, don't really care about the worth of the deal now that he's signed as

1) the deal is done & we're stuck with it

2) I trust our list managers - they have been pretty good for quite some time now

3) I don't see how Sam's income is really anyone else business except his (I'll include his manager and anyone Sam chooses to share the information with), the Club's (for list management purposes and as the employer) & the AFL's (for salary cap purposes and contract ratification).

It's not his teammates (that just potentially breed's jealousy, it's not the public's.

With respect Barry, how would you like it if your income details were printed here on RWO - if your response is to state your income, which is easy to do with total anonymity, then perhaps substantiate it with a copy of your tax return so that it's known to be authentic.

Now of course I don't want you to share your income details Barry! The point I'm trying to make is that it is personal information & my opinion is that the public don't have the right to expect to know it.

[KTigers]

I don't think anyone here really thinks they have a right to know the details of a players contract. It's more that rumoured player salary
details are part of the discussion of a players value to the team, or their likelihood of coming to or leaving the team.

[goswannies]

I don't think anyone here really thinks they have a right to know the details of a players contract. It's more that rumoured player salary
details are part of the discussion of a players value to the team, or their likelihood of coming to or leaving the team.

That's a fair call

[swansrob]

Why won't Barry release his tax returns? What is he hiding?