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  • waswan
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2015
    • 2047

    #16
    Originally posted by stevoswan
    .........what the?
    he is on 2 strikes another fine and its an automatic week suspension
    he should wrestle this week get his week then have 2 weeks break including the bye before finals
    otherwise risk a finals wrestle charge and miss a finals game

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    • Hotpotato
      Senior Player
      • Jun 2014
      • 2272

      #17
      Originally posted by waswan
      he is on 2 strikes another fine and its an automatic week suspension
      he should wrestle this week get his week then have 2 weeks break including the bye before finals
      otherwise risk a finals wrestle charge and miss a finals game
      That's a creative take on it .
      He could also play to the rules, win the Coleman, play all the finals, win the Norm Smith and the Granny.

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      • aardvark
        Veterans List
        • Mar 2010
        • 5685

        #18
        Originally posted by waswan
        he is on 2 strikes another fine and its an automatic week suspension
        he should wrestle this week get his week then have 2 weeks break including the bye before finals
        otherwise risk a finals wrestle charge and miss a finals game
        Or he could try a tad of self discipline and help us beat the Crows and Blues for a possible top 4 finish.

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        • Doctor
          Bay 29
          • Sep 2003
          • 2757

          #19
          Any chance posters could spell the surnames of our team's players correctly? After years of seeing people butcher Hannebery we're now seeing it with Hayward. Just look it up if you don't know how to spell it! Rant over.

          It'll be Kennedy in for Newman and that's it. Structurally that'll mean a slight positional shift for a couple of players but I'm sure they'll sort it out.
          Today's a draft of your epitaph

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          • Cosmic Wizard
            recruit me pretty please!
            • Sep 2005
            • 620

            #20
            Originally posted by Doctor
            Any chance posters could spell the surnames of our team's players correctly? After years of seeing people butcher Hannebery we're now seeing it with Hayward. Just look it up if you don't know how to spell it! Rant over.

            It'll be Kennedy in for Newman and that's it. Structurally that'll mean a slight positional shift for a couple of players but I'm sure they'll sort it out.
            When the club's website update the date players debut, I might take some spelling lessons!
            doof-doof

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            • Mel_C
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 4470

              #21
              Any news about Newman? Haven't seen anything on the swans site. I'm hoping it's not too serious.

              After watching the crows on Sat night I'm worried about their forwards. Our backline has to be switched on and be careful about mismatches. We were caught out against the Hawks as well as against Freo.

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              • stevoswan
                Veterans List
                • Sep 2014
                • 8560

                #22
                Originally posted by Hotpotato
                That's a creative take on it .
                He could also play to the rules, win the Coleman, play all the finals, win the Norm Smith and the Granny.
                Agree.....he just needs to concentrate on playing good footy and priming himself for a great finals series....not flirting with his form by doing silly things and letting his team mates down.

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                • Plugger1300
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 310

                  #23
                  Hayward should stay
                  He is an Adelaide boy and deserves to play in front of his homecrowd
                  Kennedy back in for Newman
                  Naismith to miss again

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                  • jono2707
                    Goes up to 11
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 3326

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Doctor
                    Any chance posters could spell the surnames of our team's players correctly? After years of seeing people butcher Hannebery we're now seeing it with Hayward. Just look it up if you don't know how to spell it! Rant over.
                    I agree.
                    Good thing Malcheski doesn't play for us anymore.
                    And I suspect Tahlia will be out the door at the end of the year too.

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                    • Ludwig
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 9359

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Mel_C
                      Any news about Newman? Haven't seen anything on the swans site. I'm hoping it's not too serious.

                      After watching the crows on Sat night I'm worried about their forwards. Our backline has to be switched on and be careful about mismatches. We were caught out against the Hawks as well as against Freo.
                      Newman's injury is not too serious and is a chance to play Friday. If he's okay to go, then Towers looks to be in line for omission.

                      I would be worried about the continual mismatches that find players like Lloyd, Smith and Jones on much taller opponents, but Longmire doesn't seem concerned and must feel that the overall results have been very good and is willing to accept those mismatches for the sake of continuity.

                      If we keep both Sinkers and Tippett in the side, which seems nearly certain, then we always have the option of dropping Reid in to defence if things get out of control. We can also start Reid on the wing matched up with Lynch and see how that goes. They each tend to move along with ball. That would leave the defensive matchups fairly even.
                      Last edited by Ludwig; 14 August 2017, 03:41 PM.

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                      • Jeynez
                        Warming the Bench
                        • May 2013
                        • 223

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Ludwig
                        I would be worried about the continual mismatches that find players like Lloyd, Smith and Jones on much taller opponents, but Longmire doesn't seem concerned and must feel that the overall results have been very good and is willing to accept those mismatches for the sake of continuity.

                        If we keep both Sinkers and Tippett in the side, then we always have the option of dropping Reid in to defence if things get out of control.
                        There will definitely be a mismatch between either McGovern or Lynch if we don't bring in Aliir.
                        McGovern plays i50 mostly, while Lynch floats up the ground more, so depends where Longmire would prefer that mismatch to occur. I'm 95% certain we'll just use Reid as a backup defender like you said.

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                        • bloodspirit
                          Clubman
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 4448

                          #27
                          Selection is tough every week at the moment.

                          Obviously Joey comes back in. Probably Newman is out (I haven't heard anything definitive about the injury - is it season ending? 2 weeks? no big deal?).

                          I find deciding what to do about the rucks is tough - play 1? play 2? which ones? they all have a case to make. I would like to see Tippett given a chance to play himself into top form because I think his best form is good enough to demand selection.

                          Given that Adelaide have 4 good talls (Walker, Lynch, Jenkins, McGovern) I can definitely see the appeal of having a taller defence (even though our defenders often have to 'play tall' against taller opposition and have done so with success). At the same time, Aliir has been in good form for a while now, and it may be that we are losing a defender in Newman. So I am sympathetic to playing Aliir. It would also be good to see how he'll go. Is the high stakes Crows match the time to do it? Another solution to this conundrum is to stick with the resting ruck forward and shift Reid back to defence to cover one of their tall forwards.

                          I'm surprised there are calls to drop Hayward. He's been brilliant. I think he's played well defensively as well as offensively, even if there is room for improvement. He uses his pace to corral and place a lot of pressure on the ball carrier and he is good at challenging for balls in the air even when he can't mark them. He has also shown good stamina making 2nd and 3rd efforts and putting in sprints late in games. That said, if we were to drop someone to make room for, say, an extra, tall defender like Aliir, it's hard to see who to drop. Towers? Hayward?

                          So.... my vote:

                          Out: Sinclair, Newman
                          In: JPK, Aliir

                          but I'm really not sure. I keep changing my mind. Will be interesting to see what the match committee does.
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                          • Ludwig
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2007
                            • 9359

                            #28
                            Originally posted by bloodspirit
                            Selection is tough every week at the moment.

                            Obviously Joey comes back in. Probably Newman is out (I haven't heard anything definitive about the injury - is it season ending? 2 weeks? no big deal?).

                            I find deciding what to do about the rucks is tough - play 1? play 2? which ones? they all have a case to make. I would like to see Tippett given a chance to play himself into top form because I think his best form is good enough to demand selection.

                            Given that Adelaide have 4 good talls (Walker, Lynch, Jenkins, McGovern) I can definitely see the appeal of having a taller defence (even though our defenders often have to 'play tall' against taller opposition and have done so with success). At the same time, Aliir has been in good form for a while now, and it may be that we are losing a defender in Newman. So I am sympathetic to playing Aliir. It would also be good to see how he'll go. Is the high stakes Crows match the time to do it? Another solution to this conundrum is to stick with the resting ruck forward and shift Reid back to defence to cover one of their tall forwards.

                            I'm surprised there are calls to drop Hayward. He's been brilliant. I think he's played well defensively as well as offensively, even if there is room for improvement. He uses his pace to corral and place a lot of pressure on the ball carrier and he is good at challenging for balls in the air even when he can't mark them. He has also shown good stamina making 2nd and 3rd efforts and putting in sprints late in games. That said, if we were to drop someone to make room for, say, an extra, tall defender like Aliir, it's hard to see who to drop. Towers? Hayward?

                            So.... my vote:

                            Out: Sinclair, Newman
                            In: JPK, Aliir

                            but I'm really not sure. I keep changing my mind. Will be interesting to see what the match committee does.
                            Doc Larkins says Newman's injury is serious and he will be out for 3 to 4 weeks. Just because he has a Doctor of Divinity from Oral Roberts University shouldn't make him qualified to assess football injuries from afar. In any case, Horse says the injury is not serious and Newman is a chance to play this Friday.

                            I agree that Hayward has been brilliant, but those who have commented that he still lacks the physical strength to complete tackles are also right. I would find it a close call if we had to decide between a healthy and fit Harry Cunningham and Will Hayward if we had to choose just one for a final.

                            I could have written those changes for the week, but I can't see Aliir coming in for Sinclair, even though Aliir had a great game in the ressies playing most in the ruck. Sinclair's ruck work has improved significantly during the year and I think Longmire likes what he saw with Tippett playing mostly up forward. Naismith doesn't look to be in the selection frame, not doing the full training session today.

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                            • penga
                              Senior Player
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 2601

                              #29
                              Tippett won't be lacking any motivation this week!!
                              C'mon Chels!

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                              • Hotpotato
                                Senior Player
                                • Jun 2014
                                • 2272

                                #30
                                As long as he plays the ball, Buddy played the man way too much against his old club. Just a waste of energy, fines and potential sanction.

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