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  • Flying South
    Regular in the Side
    • Sep 2013
    • 585

    According to AFL.com "Newman was passed fit, but was the unlucky Swan to make way for the skipper's return."

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    • Markwebbos
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2016
      • 7186

      This is the Swans website:

      Newman was cleared of any serious damage and passed his fitness test on Thursday, but the coaches weren't going to take any chances.

      ?Nic got through training so he is feeling good and will come to Adelaide with us," Longmire said.

      ?He is a good player who we expect to come back into the senior team pretty shortly because he is a bit stiff."

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      • barry
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 8499

        No way Newman would be just dropped.

        I'd say he's fit enough to play, but not 100%, so easy choice for a rest.

        He'll be back for finals... Unless Longmire is falling into old habits...

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        • Markwebbos
          Veterans List
          • Jul 2016
          • 7186

          Originally posted by barry
          No way Newman would be just dropped.

          I'd say he's fit enough to play, but not 100%, so easy choice for a rest.

          He'll be back for finals... Unless Longmire is falling into old habits...
          If he's fit enough to play but not 100% why an emergency?

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          • Dan
            Warming the Bench
            • Oct 2010
            • 338

            Originally posted by Markwebbos
            If he's fit enough to play but not 100% why an emergency?
            Because Newman at 80% is probably better than anyone from the reserves
            I See It But I Don't Believe It!!!!

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            • penga
              Senior Player
              • Jan 2003
              • 2601

              Newman's disposal efficiency was 50% last week. Pretty poor. He is creative, and he tries to do something with every disposal, but maybe the coaches are giving him a little wake up call.
              C'mon Chels!

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              • longmile
                Crumber
                • Apr 2011
                • 3367

                Originally posted by penga
                Newman's disposal efficiency was 50% last week. Pretty poor. He is creative, and he tries to do something with every disposal, but maybe the coaches are giving him a little wake up call.
                He has definitely been down on form since McVeigh has pushed him out of his usual role. He may struggle next yr if McVeigh gets contracted for a year more unless he learns how to adapt. He's a great half-back flanker and I believe he has a long future with us there but at the moment he is playing as a subpar winger and even small forward.

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                • Swanny40519
                  Regular in the side.
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 469

                  Originally posted by penga
                  Newman's disposal efficiency was 50% last week. Pretty poor. He is creative, and he tries to do something with every disposal, but maybe the coaches are giving him a little wake up call.
                  Agree - I think over the past 2-3 weeks he has struggled and his disposal has not been up to scratch, plus he has had some terrible turnovers.

                  A wake up call for sure.

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                  • Ludwig
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 9359

                    Originally posted by penga
                    Newman's disposal efficiency was 50% last week. Pretty poor. He is creative, and he tries to do something with every disposal, but maybe the coaches are giving him a little wake up call.
                    He was injured last week and played only half a game. He shouldn't be judged on this one game.

                    Originally posted by longmile
                    He has definitely been down on form since McVeigh has pushed him out of his usual role. He may struggle next yr if McVeigh gets contracted for a year more unless he learns how to adapt. He's a great half-back flanker and I believe he has a long future with us there but at the moment he is playing as a subpar winger and even small forward.
                    Not true. If you look at his previous 2 games:
                    • Newman had 19 disposals at 68% v. Geelong with 66% game time. Towers had a total of 7 disposals, least on the team even though he had 79% game time.
                    • In the Hawthorn game, the one previous to the Geelong game, Newman had 29 disposals, most for the Swans, at 83% DE. Towers had 14 disposals at 50%.


                    Newman has Towers covered in just about every measure this year. I would be interested in knowing some of the Champion Data stats that we usually don't see, like pressure acts. Newman is far and away a better defensive player who puts physical pressure on his opponent, something Towers rarely does.

                    Towers has clearly improved over the year and is not the liability to the team that he once was. I'm happy for him to play in lieu of Newman this week, who would probably be playing with a slight injury. I think we will rest someone like McVeigh v Carlton, just to lessen the load on his calves, so he's fresh for the finals, and Newman will come back in.

                    I think Towers was picked mainly because he is too psychologically fragile and it would crush him if he were dropped. Newman is made of tougher stuff. He'll be okay. It would bad for the team to have someone crying inconsolably in the locker room all week.

                    It doesn't help the credibility of RWO if some of us are spreading Fake News.

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                    • barry
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8499

                      Towers has a completely different role to Newman.

                      Towers is an in and under tackling machine.

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                      • Blood Fever
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4050

                        Originally posted by barry
                        Towers has a completely different role to Newman.

                        Towers is an in and under tackling machine.

                        Towers is a very good pressure player. The problem with him starts when he has the ball and has time to think. Instinctively he is ok like his handball over the top for Hayward goal. Think Newman will play if it is wet. His kicking is invaluable.

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                        • Markwebbos
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          Originally posted by barry
                          Towers has a completely different role to Newman.

                          Towers is an in and under tackling machine.
                          Newman has 68 tackles at an average of 4 per game. Towers 47 at an average of 3.1

                          2017 Sydney Team Page - FinalSiren.com

                          Towers has speed and height on his side. If he was slow / short he'd have a different career.

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                          • Auntie.Gerald
                            Veterans List
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 6480

                            For me towers is purely in the team as a run with because we want our other outside players to not have to tag or run with
                            We don't have many quick guys
                            Towers role is to negate the impact of outside player matchups

                            Simples
                            "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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                            • barry
                              Veterans List
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 8499

                              Originally posted by Markwebbos
                              Newman has 68 tackles at an average of 4 per game. Towers 47 at an average of 3.1

                              2017 Sydney Team Page - FinalSiren.com

                              Towers has speed and height on his side. If he was slow / short he'd have a different career.
                              Newman does play as a defender, so he should be tackling.

                              If towers was slow and short he'd be an accountant.

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                              • graemed
                                Swans2win
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 410

                                This debate re: Towers v Newman is relevant given the pressure for positions, but we need to keep in mind there are others also applying pressure and this is great for the club if not for the individuals being overlooked.

                                The preference for a settled team is a proven recipe for success. Newman has been guilty of turnovers at critical moments but he has also been responsible for winning some critically important one-on-one contests. His balance, his timing and his cool head will be missed this week.

                                Towers has been fulfilling a role, he may not be getting many possessions, but clearly the coaching staff have been content with whatever he's doing.

                                As an unabashed Allir fan, I firmly believe there is still a position for him in our best 22 but looking at the list this week, I can only see him getting there at the expense of either Sinclair, Towers or Tippett. Clearly his role in the ruck in the reserves last week, may be heralding similar thinking from the match committee.

                                Yet, the preference for a settled team is a proven recipe for success and I cannot fault either Sinclair nor Tippett on their current form.

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