Match Day Thread Rnd 23. Sydney

[liz]

Grundy cleared!

Heath Grundy cleared contact LCasboult. Grundy braced for contact as Casboult sought to lead. Actions not unreasonable in the circumstances.

? Patrick Keane (@AFL_PKeane) August 28, 2017

That was quick. Was expecting to have to wait another hour or two to be put out of misery for an incident I didn't even know had happened until I saw Nathan Smook talk about it an hour or two ago.

[Ludwig]

I'd see Tippett (too unreliable and injury prone), Hayward and Cunningham out for Naismith, Papley and Hannebery

Towers gets a reprieve but I'd love to see him as second ruck man in the finals, it's when he looks his most electric and dangerous, but it'd never happen

I think Tippett is the best of our ruckmen, but you're right, and it's too big a risk to play him. He doesn't seem to be able to get through a game without injury. We'll have to see how Naismith gets through the reserves game this week. He's another that's been plagued by frequent injury. One thing going for Sinclair (and needs something) is that he seems the most durable of our ruckmen.

I think it was a waste to play Cunningham last game. He hasn't been in close to good enough form to come into the seniors. We wasted our last opportunity to try Dawson, who was arguably the best player in the NEAFL this year. It seems that players suffering Lisfranc and foot injuries in general take a long time to get back into form. It may have contributed to Talia's poor year, even though the injury happened a year ago.


The MRP made the right call on Grundy, but it's always a worry whenever there's head high contact in an off the ball incident. I wonder if it would have made a difference if that incident occurred for the Home and Away season. It would have been harsh to wipe out a player for a final on that incident.

[Go Swannies]

That was quick. Was expecting to have to wait another hour or two to be put out of misery for an incident I didn't even know had happened until I saw Nathan Smook talk about it an hour or two ago.

+1 - when I saw the post that he was cleared I thought "already?".

I reckon that Tippett will play if he comes through scans and training. Fit, he's the best of the three and only if he's not fit will he be dropped. But he is delicate isn't he? About 300 pages ago on the Tippett thread I wondered if his problems with concussion at the Crows would end his career early. Instead it seems to be his legs.

I presume he was rested in the last quarter to give him every chance of playing the first final, not to start the off season early.

[Mel_C]

Sorry, I missed the meaning behind 'ruthless'.

So did I. I thought Annie was referring to Tippett but thought it strange that she would call him "ruthless"! Now it makes sense ????.

[goswannies]

I have to wonder whether Kurt has relatively laxed lateral ligaments in his ankles as a result of multiple sprains? Or even just naturally.

If this is the case, it would in part account for the seemingly high incidence of repeat recurrent ankle injuries, without an exceptionally lengthy recovery time. In my experience, ankle injuries that are really well managed can recover well, but less well managed ankle injuries seem to result in increasingly recurrent instability. Taping an injured ankle and premature resumption of play (or training) seems to be a simply ineffective way to manage the problem as if there is enough force to damage a ligament, no amount of external tape will effectively protect it (it will help psychologically, with proprioception and prophylactically for less strong forces).
The forces at the ankle are compounded by a person of Tippett's physique (as the forces at the ankle with the high mass and centre of gravity above it are exacerbated) and his game style (jumping often - either in the ruck or in marking contests).

If he does have laxed ligaments, he may sustain an innocuous injury that will cause mild/moderate discomfort and immediate loss of confidence, which settles quickly and he can resume (albeit with trepidation.

I'm merely contemplating aloud & this is based on nothing more than hypotheticals and with no insider knowledge.

[Meg]

Is the ankle Kurt rolled on Saturday the same one he has had trouble with for much of the season?

[Billericay]

I think it was a waste to play Cunningham last game. He hasn't been in close to good enough form to come into the seniors. We wasted our last opportunity to try Dawson, who was arguably the best player in the NEAFL this year. It seems that players suffering Lisfranc and foot injuries in general take a long time to get back into form. It may have contributed to Talia's poor year, even though the injury happened a year ago.

Agree they missed a chance to give Dawson a crack.

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Is the ankle Kurt rolled on Saturday the same one he has had trouble with for much of the season?

Think so. I think they should just cut his feet off above the ankles and give him wheels. It's not like he'll be any less mobile afterwards.

[Nico]

I have to wonder whether Kurt has relatively laxed lateral ligaments in his ankles as a result of multiple sprains? Or even just naturally.

If this is the case, it would in part account for the seemingly high incidence of repeat recurrent ankle injuries, without an exceptionally lengthy recovery time. In my experience, ankle injuries that are really well managed can recover well, but less well managed ankle injuries seem to result in increasingly recurrent instability. Taping an injured ankle and premature resumption of play (or training) seems to be a simply ineffective way to manage the problem as if there is enough force to damage a ligament, no amount of external tape will effectively protect it (it will help psychologically, with proprioception and prophylactically for less strong forces).
The forces at the ankle are compounded by a person of Tippett's physique (as the forces at the ankle with the high mass and centre of gravity above it are exacerbated) and his game style (jumping often - either in the ruck or in marking contests).

If he does have laxed ligaments, he may sustain an innocuous injury that will cause mild/moderate discomfort and immediate loss of confidence, which settles quickly and he can resume (albeit with trepidation.

I'm merely contemplating aloud & this is based on nothing more than hypotheticals and with no insider knowledge.

Maybe he is simply not suited to the modern day boots. Perhaps a pair of old fashioned, high sided, supportive Ron Barassi boots would do the trick.

[Meg]

Match Day Thread Rnd 23. Sydney

Perhaps the physios don't understand Kurt's problem because when he tells them it goes over their heads.

[IMG]

[aardvark]

Grundy cleared.

[Matty10]

Perhaps the physios don't understand Kurt's problem because when he tells them it goes over their heads.

[IMG]

Nice one.


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