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Is Joey a smokey for the Charlie?

Tell you what I'll give you whatever odds you want if you place the bet with me

[goswannies]

Hardly. No-one is a smokey, given that Dusty managed to get through the H&A season without getting himself suspended. I think he'll smash the record for the most votes ever.

Take away the asterisk and our Teaser will always hold that record!

[Levii3]

AA is a joke anyway, players like Joel Selwood get in the side because of their reputation only.

Selwood - Missed 4 games, injured start/midway through 2 games, poor performances in Geelong's losses. Only averages 25.8 touches with 3.4 coming from free kicks.
Cue the AA selectors crapping on about his "courage"

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Guys gets 4 free kicks a game if anyone else does what he does they call it staging. Shouldn't even be in the 40 man squad his teammate Mitch Duncan has had a better year.

[Blood Fever]

I couldn't be bothered with the AA this year, underwhelmed about the very mediocre seats in the Trumper we ended up with for Saturday
week, while some blow-ins will no doubt be sitting in our choice seats in the Brewongle. This club membership thing, it's a bit of a
racket sometimes. Besides, Alex Rance, he's not even captain of his own team. Watched this show on the ABC called "Utopia" instead.
It was pretty funny actually.

Utopia took preference for me as well KT. Didn't miss watching AA. Selwood a protected species in selectors' eyes I reckon.

[penga]

Hardly. No-one is a smokey, given that Dusty managed to get through the H&A season without getting himself suspended. I think he'll smash the record for the most votes ever.

You just never know. The best and fairest gets lost a bit, I think. This is why I can't stand the bleating from St. Jobe. Sure, Dusty does have form with Brownlow votes, but it comes down to the umpire's discretion. While he doesn't seem to be the demonstrative type, there is the (slightest) possibility that he rubs the umps up the wrong way, and doesn't poll the votes everyone has him pegged for.

[Blue Sun]

Rance is good, but way overrated here in Melbourne.

[liz]

You just never know. The best and fairest gets lost a bit, I think. This is why I can't stand the bleating from St. Jobe. Sure, Dusty does have form with Brownlow votes, but it comes down to the umpire's discretion. While he doesn't seem to be the demonstrative type, there is the (slightest) possibility that he rubs the umps up the wrong way, and doesn't poll the votes everyone has him pegged for.

Sure, he may "only" poll 30 or so votes, rather than the 35+ that some are predicting. But I can't see any other player other than maybe the ineligible Dangerfield getting close to 25 votes. Someone like Mitchell gets a lot of the ball but he does so unobtrusively, and in any case, Hawthorn were dreadful in quite a few of their games, which will impact him getting maximum votes even where he was the busiest player on the ground.

[stellation]

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Tough gig every year to do the selections. Both Luke and Josh weren't at their regular high level all season, but neither was Joel this year.

The above doesn't show clearances;
Selwood 6.3 per game (114 total)
Kennedy 6.9 per game (131 total)
Parker 6.4 per game (140 total)

[KTigers]

Good to see the winners of the really important statistical categories, like Frees For, being rewarded with AA selection.
And where is GWS' version of JPK, Callan Ward (592 disposals, 146 clearances)? didn't even get a mention in the 40.

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Tough gig every year to do the selections. Both Luke and Josh weren't at their regular high level all season, but neither was Joel this year.

The above doesn't show clearances;
Selwood 6.3 per game (114 total)
Kennedy 6.9 per game (131 total)
Parker 6.4 per game (140 total)

[dejavoodoo44]

Good to see the winners of the really important statistical categories, like Frees For, being rewarded with AA selection.
And where is GWS' version of JPK, Callan Ward (592 disposals, 146 clearances)? didn't even get a mention in the 40.

Yes, I was just going to point out, that the only stat that Selwood was in front was Frees For, but you beat me to it.

[Go Swannies]

Selwood gets as many free kicks as he takes marks!

How the hell do you play against someone who has more than 10% of his disposals from free kicks?

[Markwebbos]

Selwood gets as many free kicks as he takes marks!

How the hell do you play against someone who has more than 10% of his disposals from free kicks?

And those free kicks count as contested possessions too

[MattW]

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Tough gig every year to do the selections. Both Luke and Josh weren't at their regular high level all season, but neither was Joel this year.

The above doesn't show clearances;
Selwood 6.3 per game (114 total)
Kennedy 6.9 per game (131 total)
Parker 6.4 per game (140 total)

Cheers for that. I reckon Parker stood out as BOG in more games than Joey, particularly in the last couple of months. Suspect he'll finish higher in the Brownlow as a result.

[Gary]

Thanks Stellation for these stats ... on this analysis JPK probably deserved that bench spot ... an eye opener that Josh gets very few free kicks while the Sellwood stats are inflated by them ... and it would be interesting to see (not that I question his bravery) how many are of the "here I am catch me high after I very neatly duck my head type at exactly the right moment type" which Kennedy NEVER does. The bravery thing is way overstated ... anyone prepared to say he is braver than Kennedy?

[penga]

Sure, he may "only" poll 30 or so votes, rather than the 35+ that some are predicting. But I can't see any other player other than maybe the ineligible Dangerfield getting close to 25 votes. Someone like Mitchell gets a lot of the ball but he does so unobtrusively, and in any case, Hawthorn were dreadful in quite a few of their games, which will impact him getting maximum votes even where he was the busiest player on the ground.

Fair. It's a slow week, just trying to generate some discussion