Grand Final: Sydney Swans Reserves v Brisbane Lions Reserves @ SCG

[Meg]

I wonder why it's important not to leave the ground when moving to the Members' area, given that people can enter the ground from 7.15pm if they're just attending the NEAFL game. Are they going to quiz people entering after 7.15pm to find out whether they were at the EF?

I think it means if you leave the ground after the EF you won't be able to get back in until 7.15pm through Gate A. If you want to stay in the ground (for example, to eat) then follow the instructions re cross-over points.

[ugg]

I wonder what happens if there is extra time required for the AFL final.

[Meg]

I wonder what happens if there is extra time required for the AFL final.

RWOers have collective heart failure!

[Meg]

I think it means if you leave the ground after the EF you won't be able to get back in until 7.15pm through Gate A. If you want to stay in the ground (for example, to eat) then follow the instructions re cross-over points.

Which makes sense - they don't want people trying to get in Gate A while thousands of others are pouring out.

[dejavoodoo44]

All right! I can finally fulfill my long held ambition of wearing a singlet, torn jeans and ugg boots to an AFL match sitting in the Members!

Just make sure that the singlet has a Collingwood logo somewhere on it. Maybe blackout a tooth or two?

[ugg]

2017 NEAFL GRAND FINAL
Saturday, September 9, 2017

Sydney Swans v Brisbane Lions at the SCG, 7.45pm
*This match will be streamed live on NEAFL TV (youtube.com/northeastafl)
*Live Champion Data statistics available on the Official NEAFL App
SYDNEY
B: 46. Sam Murray 21. Jack Maibaum 2. Alex Johnson
HB: 38. Colin O?Riordan 11. Jeremy Laidler 31. Harrison Marsh
C: 45. Sam Fisher 33. Brandon Jack 13. Oliver Florent
HF: 30. Tyrone Leonardis 19. Shaun Edwards 25. Ben Ronke
F: 1. James Rose 47. Toby Pink 9. Will Hayward
Foll: 8. Kurt Tippett 6. Jordan Foote 34. Jordan Dawson
Inter: 36. Aliir Aliir 7. Harry Cunningham 32. Michael Talia 27. Daniel Robinson 55. Jarrod Osborne
Emer: 48. Sam Wicks 53. Sam Barkley 52. Harry Carr
In: 9. Will Hayward 8. Kurt Tippett
Out: 35. Sam Naismith 48. Sam Wicks

BRISBANE

B: 42. Mitch Hinge 41. Matt Eagles 59. Jack Payne
HB: 47. Reuben William 20. Cedric Cox 24. Liam Dawson
C: 19. Josh Clayton 16. Jarrad Jansen 8. Rohan Bewick
HF: 34. Jono Freeman 60. Connor Ballenden 37. Jacob Allison
F: 40. Matthew Hammelmann 33. Michael Close 39. Corey Lyons
Foll: 44. Archie Smith 1. Ben Keays 17. Claye Beams
Inter: 46. Oscar McInerney 54. Luke O?Sullivan 53. Campbell Walker 48. Blake Grewar 11. Cian Hanley
Emer: 52. Jack Clayton 55. Ben Sloan 50. Ryan Dadds
In: 48. Blake Grewar 11. Cian Hanley 37. Jacob Allison 60. Connor Ballenden
Out: 52. Jack Clayton 55. Ben Sloan 50. Ryan Dadds
2017 NEAFL Grand Final Teams – NEAFL

[barracuda]

My feeling is that the coaches have been encouraging Aliir to take the game on and try to become a line breaker. This makes a lot of sense as we already have plenty of stodgy (and I use the term respectfully) defenders, with Maibaum being the next in that mould. We only really have Zak Jones and Buddy who take on tacklers with the aim of breaking tackles and moving the ball out of tight situations in that fashion, so it would be nice if we could develop another. Aliir is uncannily successful at breaking tackles, but like Jones and Franklin, does get caught at times. I said in another post that I thought he was instructed to play this way. Let's face it. The runner could have always come out and tell him to cut out all that play on at all cost attitude and play a more conservative game, but apparently that didn't happen.

Reflecting on this, I think Aliir is being instructed to play like he is. I think it is for a reason and it relates to the senior side. My prediction is that he goes into the seniors this week to provide line breaking run off the half back! He is listed as first emergency.

[barry]

Tippet is a handy "in".

[liz]

Reflecting on this, I think Aliir is being instructed to play like he is. I think it is for a reason and it relates to the senior side. My prediction is that he goes into the seniors this week to provide line breaking run off the half back! He is listed as first emergency.

Are the emergencies not just listed in alphabetical order? I don't think you can read anything into who is most likely to come into the team, if needed. In any case, it would have to depend on who goes out. If something were to happen to one of our taller defenders, sure, Aliir would be the most likely, but he's not going to replace a Hanners or Parker.

In any case, there's no reason to think any of the named players are going to miss.

I do think that Aliir's NEAFL games reflect the way he's being coached to play. He commented last year, when he was talk of the AFL for a couple of months, that one of the things he'd had to learn was to be more aggressive in his rebound, rather than focussing entirely on stopping his opponent. His performances have been patchy in the NEAFL - some super, some less so - but I'm sure he's learned a lot and I see no reason why he can't force his way into the side next year.

As far as COR is concerned, if he wants to stick it out for another year my expectation is that the club will give him that opportunity. It's not uncommon for players with his background to have fantastic first seasons coming to grips with a new sport because their development is judged on such a low starting point. The second year is often a year of consolidation and may be judged more harshly because a player can't keep up the same rate of improvement. It's often not that they've regressed, just that their rate of improvement has slowed down. It's not just limited to players new to the sport. I think you can attribute the oft-observed "second year blues" of young players at senior AFL level to the fact that people expect them to keep improving at a dramatic rate and it is usually not possible. Also, players in their second year (whether at NEAFL level or senior AFL level) are being asked to do more, be more accountable for an opponent, or learn different roles within a team, rather than just be allowed to settle in and keep things simple.

In COR's case, injuries have also hampered him this year but I think he's shown enough to suggest he does have senior AFL attributes. He just needs to stick at it.

[ugg]

Are the emergencies not just listed in alphabetical order? I don't think you can read anything into who is most likely to come into the team, if needed.

I've found that the Swans's emergencies have been in alphabetical order this year, but not for other teams. But I agree with you I don't think it indicates any preference.

[ugg]

NEAFL 2017 Grand Final

Sydney Swans Reserves v Brisbane Lions Reserves @ Sydney Cricket Ground

Saturday 9th September 2017
7:45pm
Sydney Cricket Ground

The Swans will be after their first NEAFL flag on Saturday night when they will line up for their 4rd NEAFL Grand Final in 5 years. The Swans have fallen agonisingly short in their previous 3 Grand Finals, with the greatest losing margin being just 8 points.

In 2013, they travelled to Brisbane who fielded a stronger lineup with more listed players. Despite a great overall effort and a great individual effort by future Saint Tim Membrey with goals, the Lions were that llittle bit better on the day and won 81-73

In 2014 they went down to the Aspley Hornets in Queensland by 2 points when a dubious free kick late in the 4th quarter resulted in a winning kick after the siren.

In 2016, the Swans were involved in a tremendous tussle with the Giants out at Blacktown only to go down by 4 points. An unfortunate slip by the retiring Teddy Richards in the goal square allowed future Bomber James Stewart to kick the easiest of winning goals.

With this game scheduled after the senior game, this allows all 3 emergencies to play and has resulted in a extremely strong squad of 22 listed players in a squad of 23 named. Darcy Cameron and Robbie Fox will be the only 2 players on the Swans list that will not take part in either the seniors or NEAFL game this weekend.

The Lions bring in 3 listed players to join the limited 16 that beat Sydney Uni last week to give them a total of 19 listed players.

The Lions are the only team to have defeated the Swans this year, winning 2 of the 3 matchups.

NEAFL Ladder
Recent Form
Reserves
Brisbane Lions
Head-to-Head
Swans Reserves 14
Lions Reserves 6

Past Meetings
2017
Round 19 @ 'Gabba
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Round 6 @ SCG
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Round 1 @ Blacktown
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2016
Round 19 @ Blacktown
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Round 5 @ Coorparoo
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Round 1 @ Burpengary

Last game
Team List
Listed players
Changes
In: Tippett, Hayward
Out: Sam NAISMITH (seniors)

Talia has been providing a much needed focal point in the last 2 rounds, but with Hayward's inclusion could possibly return to help deal with Brisbane's talls. While Hayward is not your traditional tall forward, his hard leads and strong hands mean he could perform such a role.

Tippett obviously replaces Naismith in the ruck but there is unlikely to be too many other structural changes with Edwards flourishing as a deeper forward


Academy Players/Topups
In:
Out: Sam WICKS

Osborne gets the nod over Wicks probably for his ability to fill in forward and back.

Statistics
Kicks
Handballs
Disposals
Marks
Tackles
Hitouts
Clearances
Inside 50s
Rebound 50s
Goals
Coaches Votes
NEAFL MVP Votes

Brisbane Lions Reserves (listed players in bold)
In: Allison, Grewar, Hanley, Ballenden
Out: Jack CLAYTON, Ryan DADDS, Ben SLOAN

Possible matchups:

• Tippett/Pink v Smith/McInerney

In the Round 19 clash, the Swans went in without a recognised ruckman with Toby Pink struggling against Smith and McInerney's dominance. They even tried running with no ruckman during the 2nd quarter with some limited success. Aliir rucked most of the 2nd half. With Tippett in the side it gives the Swans a chance to break even at the hitouts. Smith has had 6 AFL games this year and McInerney has had an outstanding debut NEAFL season being named in the NEAFL team of the year as well as winning the Lions NEAFL B&F award.

• Foote v Beams

Foote had the run with role on Mitch Hallahan last week and did a good job for 3 quarters. In the Round 19 clash Beams had 4 clearances and 6 inside 50s and generated many Lions scoring opportunities. He was best on ground in their preliminary final with 38 disposals, 9 marks, 11 inside 50s and 3 clearances. Keeping him quiet will be one of the Swans's goals for the day.

• Maibaum/Aliir/Marsh v Hammelmann/Freeman/Close

The Lions forwards were dominant against the Swans in Round 19, with the 128 points they scored they highest the Swans have conceded this season. In particular the 3 talls had the better of their opponents, taking 18 marks and kicking 9 goals between them. Maibaum, Alliir and Marsh are likely to get first crack at them, with Johnson and Talia the other options.

• Dawson v Jansen

Both big bodied midfielders (Dawson 190cm Jansen 193cm) likely to go head to head against each other. Jansen is their leading tackler for the year (avg 5.59) and will look to use his size to limit Dawson's impact at the contest.

• Edwards v Cox

Cox is an exciting speedy player who can provide the Lions with plenty of drive from their back half. Edwards has the speed to match Cox and his potency in front of goal could cause Cox issues in defence.

[ugg]

[barracuda]

Ugg its your last pre game post for the year, and I want to say I have enjoyed them all. Thanks

[undy]

Ugg its your last pre game post for the year, and I want to say I have enjoyed them all. Thanks

What happens if there is a tie ?

The fish is right, thanks for all the preview and reviews.

[dejavoodoo44]

Yes, well done on the effort, and next year, if you want to change the name of the thread to The Ugg Report, I don't think anyone would mind.