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  • aguy
    Senior Player
    • Mar 2014
    • 1324

    #16
    So. We are without Marsh and Reid. Who will be in. Quite possibly without Rohan too.

    I suspect it will be in Newman Marsh and Jones. Out Reid Melican and Rohan. They will rotate two back and one forward plus play another small more forward.

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    • Markwebbos
      Veterans List
      • Jul 2016
      • 7186

      #17
      Originally posted by Ludwig
      I was a bit surprised how well we handled the GWS talls. I feel that if we can play 2 tall defenders plus Rampe most weeks that we will be tall enough. The trend is toward smaller quicker sides and we are also heading in that direction.
      Glad to hear you?ve changed your tune Ludwig.

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      • Beerman
        Regular in the Side
        • Oct 2010
        • 823

        #18
        It is a huge blow to lose Reid - he makes us a different team. But as Ludwig says, with his history (not to mention his brother's history), we really can't count on him playing.

        Agree that Rohan needs to play deep and make strong leads to draw defenders away from Buddy. He's been a bit off form lately and I'm not sure how much he's going to provide for us. He's not exactly a "crash the pack" type of player either. The other player who I think looks good in the forward line is Heeney, but it is such a waste when he is doing so well in the midfield.

        I agree that Marsh and Jones are the most likely ins. Hopefully Jones has found his groove and fixed up his disposal efficiency after round one.

        I think we should win this. Bulldogs were woeful against GWS and I'm not convinced by what I saw of the Essendon game that they are really "back".

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        • ugg
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          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 15976

          #19
          I'd bring in Fox for Melican, Jones for Reid (with Heeney spending more time forward) and if Rohan is unavailable then Newman comes in for him.
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          • RogueSwan
            McVeigh for Brownlow
            • Apr 2003
            • 4602

            #20
            Originally posted by Beerman
            ... Agree that Rohan needs to play deep and make strong leads to draw defenders away from Buddy. He's been a bit off form lately and I'm not sure how much he's going to provide for us. He's not exactly a "crash the pack" type of player either. ...
            More a "crash into the fence" type
            "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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            • Papernick
              Suspended by the MRP
              • Mar 2018
              • 69

              #21
              Certainly this gives Dawson the perfect opportunity to get a good run at it one he?s had a couple of games in the Neafl

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              • dimelb
                pr. dim-melb; m not f
                • Jun 2003
                • 6889

                #22
                Originally posted by liz
                I'd forgotten all about Jones. Agree that he is more likely to come into the side than Newman.

                Rose might get a chance if Rohan isn't available but I think they're more likely to bring in a Newman or Robinson. The forward line will need a rejig without Reid, even more so if Rohan's absent. But that might just mean Heeney, Hayward, Parker and/or Kennedy spending a bit more time in the forward line.
                Sinkers did a great job "resting" in the forward line. That would also work against the Doggies, as would Deano "resting" there as well.
                He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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                • mattybloods
                  Warming the Bench
                  • Jul 2016
                  • 482

                  #23
                  I don't think there's a tall forward (or ruck) on our list who gets a call up this weekend. It's crazy to stick to the same game plan if we don't have the quality players to pull it off.

                  Marsh in for Melican makes sense as Aliir missed most of the pre season and could use a few more NEAFL games. Jones is an automatic in if fit, otherwise Newman. More time in the forward line for our marking Midfielders Joey, Parks and Heeney.

                  This is a great chance for either Cameron or McCartin to press his claim. If Cameron has a couple of good NEAFL games we can shift Sinclair into the forward line, he's one of our better marks at the moment

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                  • Sandrevan
                    Warming the Bench
                    • May 2016
                    • 355

                    #24
                    Losing Sam Reid is a big loss. Having him creates doubt in opposition defenders. IMO Gary Rohan fills the role of swingman and it might help him get into the game more. If Melican is the only other injury then it's
                    Out: Reid and Melican
                    Ins: Newman and Jones (if fit) otherwise Marsh

                    The Bulldogs were quite frenetic on Sunday. They've now got a 6 day break and we have a 7 day break. I can't see them being able to back it up for next week. Their forward line only has 1 tall (Redpath) although Josh Dunkley is a good marking target.
                    They probably won't get the favorable treatment from the umpires either - Beveridge is still paying off the umpires from the 2016 arrangement

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                    • Blood Fever
                      Veterans List
                      • Apr 2007
                      • 4051

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Sandrevan
                      Losing Sam Reid is a big loss. Having him creates doubt in opposition defenders. IMO Gary Rohan fills the role of swingman and it might help him get into the game more. If Melican is the only other injury then it's
                      Out: Reid and Melican
                      Ins: Newman and Jones (if fit) otherwise Marsh

                      The Bulldogs were quite frenetic on Sunday. They've now got a 6 day break and we have a 7 day break. I can't see them being able to back it up for next week. Their forward line only has 1 tall (Redpath) although Josh Dunkley is a good marking target.
                      They probably won't get the favorable treatment from the umpires either - Beveridge is still paying off the umpires from the 2016 arrangement
                      In: Marsh, Jones

                      Out: Reid, Melican

                      Cunningham stays because of his speed. Marsh underrated and can play tallish. Buddy and Rohan to interchange playing high and low. Jones gives us speed and spite.

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                      • MattW
                        Veterans List
                        • May 2011
                        • 4232

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Beerman
                        It is a huge blow to lose Reid - he makes us a different team. But as Ludwig says, with his history (not to mention his brother's history), we really can't count on him playing.

                        Agree that Rohan needs to play deep and make strong leads to draw defenders away from Buddy. He's been a bit off form lately and I'm not sure how much he's going to provide for us. He's not exactly a "crash the pack" type of player either. The other player who I think looks good in the forward line is Heeney, but it is such a waste when he is doing so well in the midfield.

                        I agree that Marsh and Jones are the most likely ins. Hopefully Jones has found his groove and fixed up his disposal efficiency after round one.

                        I think we should win this. Bulldogs were woeful against GWS and I'm not convinced by what I saw of the Essendon game that they are really "back".
                        I agree with this, particularly on Rohan, Marsh and Jones. I'm a little more cautious about this week - they've matched up well against us under Beveridge.

                        [Edit: Although I reckon Rohan does crash the packs - he's one of the best contested marks in the team, just a little less often of late.]

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                        • SeanM
                          Warming the Bench
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 304

                          #27
                          I would probably select the replacements for Reid and Melican based on the opposition. So this week go smaller and more mobile.

                          I would pick Fox for Melican. He has been playing more as a half back. But he has been involved in the side recently, is quick and can leap. Alternatively we can bring in Jones or Newman into defence. Or Marsh seems our squad depth medium defender. It seems like Aliir is not match ready but could be a worthwhile risk because once Melican returns I am not sure when he gets another chance.

                          Against the bulldogs I would rather bring in Jones/Newman as another midfielder instead of Cameron. Jones would be good around the contest and Newman with his kicking.

                          If Rohan does not travel. I would be happy to take a gamble on a unproven player. Ronke could provide quick forward pressure and seems to find the ball. Amartey and Stoddart are unlikely but could be a possible half forward.

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                          • stevoswan
                            Veterans List
                            • Sep 2014
                            • 8573

                            #28
                            Reid is a huge loss.....I don't believe we can win the premiership without him. We are a sensibly structured team with him in, we are a confused rabble without him.......

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                            • longmile
                              Crumber
                              • Apr 2011
                              • 3373

                              #29
                              Originally posted by stevoswan
                              Reid is a huge loss.....I don't believe we can win the premiership without him. We are a sensibly structured team with him in, we are a confused rabble without him.......
                              Agreed but we can beat the dogs without him.

                              In: Newman, Jones

                              Out: Reid, Melican

                              Cunningham the first to go when we get more fit bodies on the park

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                              • I?m-uninformed2
                                Pushing for Selection
                                • Mar 2018
                                • 60

                                #30
                                I know Buddy got us through in rd1 and everyone points to the model from Richmond last year. But Reid?s loss worries me a lot for our season. Other defences worry about him. He gives us flexibility on how we use Buddy. He?s quick and good defensively. And can drop back to defence if needed. And with our ruck stocks thin and McCartin so young, we don?t have an easy option as an alternative up forward. I think it?s going to be a suck it and see approach on whether we play Buddy solo, or take a punt with Cameron. But it will challenge our ability to press for top four.

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