#AFL Round 4 Weekly Discussion Thread

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  • dimelb
    pr. dim-melb; m not f
    • Jun 2003
    • 6889

    #16
    Originally posted by tasswan
    Can't believe Collingwood got 2 friday nights in a row. hopefully they make just as good a banner tonihgt
    They did even better!

    Give it a spell: Pies' cheer squad embraces mistake - AFL.com.au
    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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    • goswannies
      Senior Player
      • Sep 2007
      • 3052

      #17
      Originally posted by stevoswan
      Pies going well......Their recruiting of Murray looks shrewder every week. Apparently they've been tracking his progress for a number of years.....since before we drafted him. He has serious pace and turn of speed.
      Can you imagine how good H.Grundy, Rampe, N.Smith or Mills would be in that side given how Murray is playing?

      - - - Updated - - -

      Originally posted by Sandridge
      Everyone's entitled to a bad game, I suppose, but the Crows were very soft. Let's hope they're just as bad next week!
      Sure, but everyone in the side?

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      • 707
        Veterans List
        • Aug 2009
        • 6204

        #18
        Lessons here, Pies got their mojo back last week and took it to a new level tonihgt. Hoping Dogs don't have the same trajectory.

        Crows looked soft and were sliced through with ease. Bet they address that this week in time for us next Friday! Injuries now exposing Crows depth.

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        • liz
          Veteran
          Site Admin
          • Jan 2003
          • 16787

          #19
          I got the margin very close in my tipping - I think I went for 45 points. Only problem is that I tipped the Crows to win by that much.

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          • Ludwig
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 9359

            #20
            Collingwood on 7 days rest crush sluggish favourite Adelaide with 6 days rest
            Geelong on 7 days rest crush sluggish favourite Sydney with 6 days rest in 2017 SF
            Adelaide on 7 days rest ___________ favourite Sydney with 6 days rest in 2018 round 5

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            • ugg
              Can you feel it?
              Site Admin
              • Jan 2003
              • 15976

              #21
              Dominant ruckman leading to a +24 clearance differential. Probably not a coincidence.
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              • Markwebbos
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                • Jul 2016
                • 7186

                #22
                I tipped the Crows but after watching the Pies last week I had a feeling they might surprise everyone. Which they did!

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                • Ludwig
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9359

                  #23
                  Originally posted by ugg
                  Dominant ruckman leading to a +24 clearance differential. Probably not a coincidence.
                  Grundy is like a 203cm midfielder playing as a ruckman. He's just turning 24. He could be the next Dean Cox the way he's going this year. He's a huge weapon. I have to re-evaluate Collingwood to the upside now. DeGoey is a good player too. They really do have a top notch midfield.

                  Carlton were poor last week and Adelaide awful tonight. We'll have to see how they go against in form opposition. Maybe it will be the Tigers in Round 6.

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                  • tasswan
                    Warming the Bench
                    • Aug 2006
                    • 334

                    #24
                    Originally posted by dimelb
                    Well played

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                    • aguy
                      Senior Player
                      • Mar 2014
                      • 1324

                      #25
                      The best part about last nights game is that it moved us up a position on the ladder
                      Last edited by aguy; 14 April 2018, 08:24 AM. Reason: Spelling

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                      • 707
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6204

                        #26
                        Originally posted by aguy
                        The best part about last nights game is that it moved us up a position on the ladder
                        Worst part is it downgraded our Pies second rounder! Murray played well again.

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                        • barry
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 8499

                          #27
                          Murray is another product of our selection approach of preferring older players who the club's 'owes' for past deeds, instead of developing youngsters.

                          How many young guns do we need to lose ?.

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                          • troyjones2525
                            Swans Fanatic!
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 2908

                            #28
                            Originally posted by barry
                            Murray is another product of our selection approach of preferring older players who the club's 'owes' for past deeds, instead of developing youngsters.

                            How many young guns do we need to lose ?.
                            Agree with this. I really felt he was ready for a few games in the back half of last year but I do admit our win streak made that difficult. People early on refusing to admit how good he is looking may have to revalue that trade as a perhaps a loss for us, (although at the time it was universally praised) and if the Pies continue to play the way they are now the pick will be somewhere in the 30's.

                            I really hope Ling or Stoddart can offer us similar play to Murray because we have lacked that attacking flair for years. Ling didn't show me much last week but I know it was only his first hit out. You do only look for flashes though with young players and I didn't see one myself, time will tell...

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                            • Ludwig
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                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              #29
                              Originally posted by barry
                              Murray is another product of our selection approach of preferring older players who the club's 'owes' for past deeds, instead of developing youngsters.

                              How many young guns do we need to lose ?.
                              Murray wasn't lost, he was traded, and for good compensation at that. The club is producing AFL quality players at a faster rate than can be absorbed, so some will have to be let go. This is actually a good thing, as we can use our superior recruiting and development to improve our position in future drafts, thus creating a positive feedback loop in the rate of quality player development.

                              The club hasn't found the need to enter the post season player meat market and overpay older players to fill holes in the club's roster, helping to keep the club roster youthful. Trading players like Mitchell and Murray has actually helped keep the club younger, not older, as you suggest. They are exchanged for draft picks which lowers the average age of our list. We also have an excellent retention rate of quality young players, in part due to the fact that we haven't overpaid for mature aged players from other clubs.

                              When our young recruits do make it to the senior list, they benefit from playing alongside club champions like McVeigh. How good is that?

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                              • Blood Fever
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                                • Apr 2007
                                • 4051

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Ludwig
                                Murray wasn't lost, he was traded, and for good compensation at that. The club is producing AFL quality players at a faster rate than can be absorbed, so some will have to be let go. This is actually a good thing, as we can use our superior recruiting and development to improve our position in future drafts, thus creating a positive feedback loop in the rate of quality player development.

                                The club hasn't found the need to enter the post season player meat market and overpay older players to fill holes in the club's roster, helping to keep the club roster youthful. Trading players like Mitchell and Murray has actually helped keep the club younger, not older, as you suggest. They are exchanged for draft picks which lowers the average age of our list. We also have an excellent retention rate of quality young players, in part due to the fact that we haven't overpaid for mature aged players from other clubs.

                                When our young recruits do make it to the senior list, they benefit from playing alongside club champions like McVeigh. How good is that?
                                +1

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