#AFL Rd 16 Sydney v Geelong, SCG, 05 July 2018 @SydneySwans #SwansCats

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  • Merdo5555
    Warming the Bench
    • Apr 2017
    • 260

    Originally posted by goswannies
    An if the player declines to leave?

    You cut them an pay out their contract in full?

    They cannot be traded if they don’t want to be, and they are still under contract
    Really how many players have stayed once the team has made it clear they aren't wanted?

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    • Foreign Legion
      Senior Player
      • Feb 2003
      • 3289

      Originally posted by Merdo5555
      Absolutely not, they didn't win us a premiership end of story. You get judged by results not hopes and dreams, or did i miss the premiership Tippett and Buddy played in. Would have been a completely different story if we had beaten the bulldogs but we didnt.

      BTW I am criticizing the fact we took on 2 huge contracts. We should have looked at offloading Tippett as soon as we signed Buddy, even if we had to pay some of his salary, Tippett never lived up to the contract from the start.
      Damn, I wish you were our list manager 4 years ago - we'd have had a chance by now. Seriously - piss off.

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      • Levii3
        Regular in the Side
        • Jun 2015
        • 655

        Originally posted by Southern Swan15
        If we had 18 blokes with ronkes work rate we would be undefeated.

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        Loved his game his attack in the air and on the ground was fantastic all night. We're really missing Papley as well.

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        • Merdo5555
          Warming the Bench
          • Apr 2017
          • 260

          Originally posted by Foreign Legion
          Damn, I wish you were our list manager 4 years ago - we'd have had a chance by now. Seriously - piss off.
          Well aren't you positively charming...abuse the last resort of the rogue with no argument to make.

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          • 0918330512
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2011
            • 1654

            Originally posted by Merdo5555
            Really how many players have stayed once the team has made it clear they aren't wanted?
            Just because someone isn’t wanted, doesn’t mean they will leave

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            • Melbourne_Blood
              Senior Player
              • May 2010
              • 3312

              Against an average footy team too . Made them look like work beaters for 3 qtrs. Yuck ! Absolute garbage.


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              • Foreign Legion
                Senior Player
                • Feb 2003
                • 3289

                Originally posted by Merdo5555
                Well aren't you positively charming...abuse the last resort of the rogue with no argument to make.
                Hindsight - you are a genius - especially with 94 posts! I can't take you seriously with your comments - all about what we SHOULD have done.

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                • Levii3
                  Regular in the Side
                  • Jun 2015
                  • 655

                  Originally posted by Merdo5555
                  The buddy/tippett contracts are a millstone that have cost us big time. Getting both was a huge mistake
                  Getting Tippo was a mistake getting Bud was the best decision we've possibly ever made. We would not have made 2014 or 16 GF without him. Giving Sam Reid another huge contract is a huge mistake.

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                  • goswannies
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 3048

                    Originally posted by Levii3
                    Getting Tippo was a mistake getting Bud was the best decision we've possibly ever made. We would not have made 2014 or 16 GF without him. Giving Sam Reid another huge contract is a huge mistake.
                    IMO Tippett was a risk worth taking. It just didn’t come off. The potential of the the bigs up forward (Tippett, Buddy and Sam Reid) was tantalising ... if only for the recurrent injuries to 2 of them. And people seem to forget how useful Tippett was as a ruckman. But I won’t bother too hard about defending a guy that so many want to blame.

                    I hope that Sammy comes back at the back end of the year and has a huge impact (won’t hold my breath, but he’s potentially what we are missing at both ends of the ground.

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                    • neilfws
                      Senior Player
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 1813

                      Not much good to say about that. Worst game I’ve attended in some time.
                      Struck me tonight how slow we look, and how tired by the end. And that’s against a middling opposition. Even J Selwood makes us look slow.
                      Shame Towers couldn’t make the most of his chance. At least some of the younger ones tried, but let down by skills. Too much faffing about in the 50 leading to turnovers and goals. Would have been slaughter if the Cats kicked straight.
                      We can only hope that we get some spark from the ins (Papley, Heeney, Reid) in the next few weeks.

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                      • Ludwig
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 9359

                        We've been badly hurt by the effective loss of Hanners and Jack from our midfield group, 2 reliable hard ball winners, and suddenly our inside contested game is looking frail. Not having Dawson available to fill a spot has not helped, nor has the loss of Mills, which might have given us another midfield option.

                        Our kids, Hayward, Florent, Ronke and McCartin have been very good, but are still young players and young players tend to fade as the season wears on.

                        When Rohan comes back, he has to go to defence. McCartin should stay in the side even when Reid returns.

                        Aliir still has so much to learn and should have loads of improvement to go. Once we can rely on him to go to the right places we should be able to utilise him more as an offensive weapon, but that's still some way off. Harry Taylor had zero marks for the game and Aliir 8, so not a bad effort for a key defender.

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                        • The Big Cat
                          On the veteran's list
                          • Apr 2006
                          • 2316

                          Longmire saying Hanners did calf early in the game and was played forward with Jack already out of the game
                          Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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                          • ASSASSIN
                            Pushing for Selection
                            • Sep 2013
                            • 85

                            Totally agree with your sentiments.

                            That was a tough game too watch... yet another game where the majority of players REFUSE to bend down for the ball at every contest, no wonder the opposition teams have the majority of the ball against the swannies.

                            Looks like finally most teams have worked out the swans suck at contests for the ball, all a team has to do is be better in that 1 area (which they are) and should win 90% time.

                            Kennedy doesn't seem to be leading very well imo and the coach completely runs out of ideas when the team is under pressure and has NO other game plan.

                            Something has to change.

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                            • Levii3
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Jun 2015
                              • 655

                              Originally posted by Ludwig
                              We've been badly hurt by the effective loss of Hanners and Jack from our midfield group, 2 reliable hard ball winners, and suddenly our inside contested game is looking frail. Not having Dawson available to fill a spot has not helped, nor has the loss of Mills, which might have given us another midfield option.

                              Our kids, Hayward, Florent, Ronke and McCartin have been very good, but are still young players and young players tend to fade as the season wears on.

                              When Rohan comes back, he has to go to defence. McCartin should stay in the side even when Reid returns.

                              Aliir still has so much to learn and should have loads of improvement to go. Once we can rely on him to go to the right places we should be able to utilise him more as an offensive weapon, but that's still some way off. Harry Taylor had zero marks for the game and Aliir 8, so not a bad effort for a key defender.
                              How many chances does he get? Honestly its better to give COR a chance he looks ready for afl level we need run and quick ball movement out of defence.

                              We should also consider trading out Lloyd and trading for Jayden hunt.

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                              • cruiser
                                What the frack!
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 6114

                                Originally posted by Levii3
                                How many chances does he get? Honestly its better to give COR a chance he looks ready for afl level we need run and quick ball movement out of defence.

                                We should also consider trading out Lloyd and trading for Jayden hunt.
                                Trading out Lloyd! Did you not watch the game tonight?
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