#AFL Rd 17 Sydney v North, ES, 15 July 2018 @SydneySwans #NorthSwans

[Doctor]

Great post by Ralph Dawg. My reflection on the game is that we played a style of play that suited the players we had available, and how much our speedy young players bring to the team. Where to from here? One game does not define us and we always play well at Docklands, so in some ways it's too easy to look at it and say that we are seeing the future. Young or new players always find it tougher to back up again and again rather than just sparkle on debut, so it's repeat performances that we are looking for. One reason Ronke is so impressive is that he has fitted in from the beginning and looks like he belongs. In many ways his 5 goals was more impressive than his 7 because he's not an unknown quantity anymore and he kicked his 5 with Franklin in the team.

If everyone is available, who comes back in and who gets left out? Joey is obviously an in game injury and an automatic so let's leave him out, and Grundy is also an automatic, with 3 of their players kicking 4+ there is no doubt that he'd have made a difference, but what about everyone else?

As a side note, I noted that Rampe's kick into the contest that led to Aliir's winning goal was off his right foot. Will Hayward take note.

[Ludwig]

You wanted to pick him before he was ready and in place of established players who were playing well. The club waited to recall him until they felt he was ready. We are all delighted for his success and what he brings to the team so there's no need for anyone to bash anyone.

Sorry, but I went overboard on the gloating. I have to say that I enjoyed the game so much it felt like winning a Grand Final and lost control of the keyboad. I promise to return to my usual understated decorum.

I noted that Rampe's kick into the contest that led to Aliir's winning goal was off his right foot. Will Hayward take note.

He can kick on his left, but he also has that banana kick, which is not bad either. He just missed it that time.

[Markwebbos]

Where are all the critics now? I'm waiting to take another bashing about Aliir. Bring it on!

Are there any doubters now that clubs would be falling over themselves to sign Aliir for $500kpa + for 5 years?

Yes I doubt it based on this article

Category: | Herald Sun

SYDNEY could have to stump up as much as $400,000 a season to keep Aliir Aliir as their chase for Darcy Moore stalls...

Aliir is out of contract at the end of the season, and had been waiting until he was playing regular football to ramp up talks.

But clubs have been made aware that he could be acquired if they are prepared to pay as much as $400,000 a season...

Sydney still believes it is in a good position to sign him up, as it works through contracts for Sam Naismith, Jake Lloyd, Heath Grundy and Jarrod McVeigh.

Harley told the Herald Sun last week the club was optimistic about its prospect of re-signing star defender Lloyd...

[CureTheSane]

There are many people here saying that this and that player should be playing.
Dawson, Cameron, O'Riordan, etc
I generally rest in the hope that the club was a big picture in play.

I wanted Mitchell back in the side when he was blitzing in the NEAFL, and never really understood why he was kept out. Maybe his abilities these days are a result of the Swan's actions.
The only other one think I've questioned is Allir. Never understood why he was omitted for so long. Horse says 'various injuries' but I think there was more to it.
Either compliance issues, or maybe some issues the the coaching staff had with his game overall.
He was playing really well when he was first left out injured and took forever to come back.
Either way I'm happy, we need players to bring this kind of excitement to inspire the crowd and the other players.
Jetta did it at times, and Rohan does it at times, hopefully Allir can do it more consistently.

[Bigjohn]

My first post so I'm not allowed post the link to the Tipperary Football Website but here is a piece on Colin O'Riordan from that website.

edit: Colin O'Riordan Makes His Swans Debut

[Ludwig]

Yes I doubt it based on this article

Category: | Herald Sun

SYDNEY could have to stump up as much as $400,000 a season to keep Aliir Aliir as their chase for Darcy Moore stalls...

Aliir is out of contract at the end of the season, and had been waiting until he was playing regular football to ramp up talks.

But clubs have been made aware that he could be acquired if they are prepared to pay as much as $400,000 a season...

Sydney still believes it is in a good position to sign him up, as it works through contracts for Sam Naismith, Jake Lloyd, Heath Grundy and Jarrod McVeigh.

Harley told the Herald Sun last week the club was optimistic about its prospect of re-signing star defender Lloyd...

Thanks for posting this, because I can't get through the pay wall.

The $400k pa figure seems about right for the Swans to retain Aliir without much hassle. I think other clubs will have to at least $500k to get him from us. That's a typical premium to leave one's current club, especially if they're happy where they are. Aliir is not a free agent, so a trade would have to be made, unless he wants to go to Carlton. I can't see that happening. The Swans don't lose players they want to keep.

[Markwebbos]

My first post so I'm not allowed post the link to the Tipperary Football Website but here is a piece on Colin O'Riordan from that website.



edit: Colin O'Riordan Makes His Swans Debut

Thanks for posting that

[Hotpotato]

My first post so I'm not allowed post the link to the Tipperary Football Website but here is a piece on Colin O'Riordan from that website.

edit: Colin O'Riordan Makes His Swans Debut

What a cracking back story. Thank you for the entertaining memoirs .
Aliir Aliir house shared with him early on and reports he didn’t understand a word he uttered for some months which was probably reciprocated by Colin as well.
What a memorable experience for Colin’s parents.
Are they coming to Sydney for the Suns game?

[Bigjohn]

They are over in Sydney until next week so they will be at the game at the weekend as well. Hopefully they get to see Colin play again!


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[Doctor]

Aliir would be nuts to leave the club that has put so much effort into him and is so supportive of him. That makes sense until player agents get involved mind you.

I still think that, long term, Aliir will be a better player with Reg and/or Melican there to cover the key forward. The spread, or lack of it, of North goal kickers suggests that Brad Scott and his team knew where our weakness would be without Reg. Grundy to Brown, Rampe to Zeibell, Aliir still takes Daw but with more cover from the other defenders.

[Legs Akimbo]

Does anyone know why we "rested" Reg at the last minute in a crunch game. Seems a bit odd.

[sprite]

Does anyone know why we "rested" Reg at the last minute in a crunch game. Seems a bit odd.

He had no logical match up, all the North forwards would have toweled him up. His lack of pace is now becoming a liability.

[MattW]

I’ve always enjoyed BT, he adds to the theatre of it all.
Brayshaw wasn’t biased , pretty fair really.

I thought the game was well called by Channel 7. Taylor can touch on self-parody at times, but he reads the game and most players pretty well. I thought Hodge's observations were largely astute and helpful.

[MattW]

Heeney was huge..He stood up and took control of the midfield...Hats off to him.

Absolutely, Ernie. Cracking last quarter out of the centre by Heeney. Very promising. Parker lifted then, too. Florent also did a good job playing more centrally - 6 clearances.

[MattW]

I agree with Ralph Dawg, I thought Rampe's outstanding distribution from defence was excellent and a key reason we scored so freely. He kicked long very accurately. He was also used more frequently than usual. I'm not sure whether that was a structural change with McVeigh out or whether that's generally our preference and North just allowed us to do it. It was obvious that we didn't kick long to a contest as often as we usually do.

On the NEAFL regulars in the side at the moment, I thought Fox was best again. Poise and a bit of class when he gets it. Robinson also took possession nicely at times. Newman was serviceable without being great. Marsh tried hard, but loses too many one-on-ones with ball on the ground and in the air.