#Round 18 Weekly Discussion Thread

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  • chalbilto
    Senior Player
    • Oct 2007
    • 1139

    #16
    We are still clinging to top 4. hopefully, anything can happen from here on,

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    • The Big Cat
      On the veteran's list
      • Apr 2006
      • 2356

      #17
      Originally posted by chalbilto
      We are still clinging to top 4. hopefully, anything can happen from here on,
      Yep. We lose to Essendon, and Melbourne beat the crows, and Geelong (BL), Hawthorn (Freo), GWS (StK) and Port (WB) all beat their lowly fancied opponents then we are our of the eight!
      Those who have the greatest power to hurt us are those we love.

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      • chalbilto
        Senior Player
        • Oct 2007
        • 1139

        #18
        Yes Big Cat you are right, but if we keep winning we are in with a show. Let's see what happens next week before slashing our wrists.

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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          #19
          Better to be 4th and have to hold on to it, than 5th and try and prise it away.

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          • Markwebbos
            Veterans List
            • Jul 2016
            • 7186

            #20
            This is what Robbo wrote about us this week Category: | Herald Sun

            3. THE BIGGEST LOSER (II)

            Sydney’s game style is to kick 80 points and restrict opponents. It’s not working. In its past four games the Swans have kicked 11.1, 9.5, 16.8 and, on Saturday, 8.16 which included two goalless quarters against Gold Coast. Dermott Brereton argues coach John Longmire has to change how he uses Lance Franklin. “If you have the best key forward since Wayne Carey, let him play,’’ Derm said.

            We wrote two weeks ago the Swans don’t have leg speed or quick ball movement and when their much-celebrated midfield is down they are in trouble. They led by 29 points at quarter-time and it seemed the cue went in the rack. They allowed the Suns to run and score and gain confidence. After the first break, the Suns kicked 11.11 from 48 inside-50s and the Swans 2.12 from 34. It was breathtaking footy by the Suns and laborious by the Swans. Their season is hanging by a thread.

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            • MattW
              Veterans List
              • May 2011
              • 4218

              #21
              Originally posted by The Big Cat
              Yep. We lose to Essendon, and Melbourne beat the crows, and Geelong (BL), Hawthorn (Freo), GWS (StK) and Port (WB) all beat their lowly fancied opponents then we are our of the eight!
              Geez, that's a sobering thought.

              How much do we want it?

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              • ugg
                Can you feel it?
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 15970

                #22
                To put it another way, to make the finals, we are going have to play some reasonably good football to make it. It’s a good run-in to have to build up some form.
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                • Sandrevan
                  Warming the Bench
                  • May 2016
                  • 355

                  #23
                  Richmond play Collingwood this weekend. I wonder who the AFL wants to win this one

                  I hope all the Magpie supporters are ready for Alex Rancid. "stager, Stager, Stager" every time he touches the ball.

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                  • Blood Fever
                    Veterans List
                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4048

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Markwebbos
                    This is what Robbo wrote about us this week Category: | Herald Sun

                    3. THE BIGGEST LOSER (II)

                    Sydney’s game style is to kick 80 points and restrict opponents. It’s not working. In its past four games the Swans have kicked 11.1, 9.5, 16.8 and, on Saturday, 8.16 which included two goalless quarters against Gold Coast. Dermott Brereton argues coach John Longmire has to change how he uses Lance Franklin. “If you have the best key forward since Wayne Carey, let him play,’’ Derm said.

                    We wrote two weeks ago the Swans don’t have leg speed or quick ball movement and when their much-celebrated midfield is down they are in trouble. They led by 29 points at quarter-time and it seemed the cue went in the rack. They allowed the Suns to run and score and gain confidence. After the first break, the Suns kicked 11.11 from 48 inside-50s and the Swans 2.12 from 34. It was breathtaking footy by the Suns and laborious by the Swans. Their season is hanging by a thread.

                    Robinson and Brereton are part of a football media that sensationalises everything on a weekly basis. Inconsistencies are never called out and their commentaries are superficial. Against Kangaroos, for instance, there was very quick ball movement from both teams in what was hailed as one of the matches of the year. Last week we were enormously resilient, apparently, with a hugely undermanned side . One week later, we are definitively hopeless. Also Robinson writes that when our midfield is down, we are in trouble. What a genius- as if that doesn't apply to every other team. So much crap written. Worthless drivel but a number of people hang on every word.

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                    • liz
                      Veteran
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 16770

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Blood Fever
                      Robinson and Brereton are part of a football media that sensationalises everything on a weekly basis. Inconsistencies are never called out and their commentaries are superficial. Against Kangaroos, for instance, there was very quick ball movement from both teams in what was hailed as one of the matches of the year. Last week we were enormously resilient, apparently, with a hugely undermanned side . One week later, we are definitively hopeless. Also Robinson writes that when our midfield is down, we are in trouble. What a genius- as if that doesn't apply to every other team. So much crap written. Worthless drivel but a number of people hang on every word.
                      My exact sentiments when I read this. Does he think that the team only tried to kick 9 goals against the Suns? It's not like we were stacking half the team behind the ball to "protect" the five goal lead we had at quarter-time. It's just that the team seemingly lost its ability to move the ball at the quarter time break (at least in part because the Suns decided to start applying some pressure, though that doesn't completely explain the debacle).

                      I have a similar issue when I read people on here complain about our game plan. Saturday wasn't a game plan issue. It was an inability to execute the basic functions of any game plan (ie win contested ball, kick/handball to a team mate's advantage, run to space to provide options to team mates, tackle).

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                      • Blood Fever
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4048

                        #26
                        Originally posted by liz
                        My exact sentiments when I read this. Does he think that the team only tried to kick 9 goals against the Suns? It's not like we were stacking half the team behind the ball to "protect" the five goal lead we had at quarter-time. It's just that the team seemingly lost its ability to move the ball at the quarter time break (at least in part because the Suns decided to start applying some pressure, though that doesn't completely explain the debacle).

                        I have a similar issue when I read people on here complain about our game plan. Saturday wasn't a game plan issue. It was an inability to execute the basic functions of any game plan (ie win contested ball, kick/handball to a team mate's advantage, run to space to provide options to team mates, tackle).
                        Thanks Liz - was starting to feel in a very small minority. I was at the North Swans game. I know Etihad usually produces a free flowing game but we moved the ball quickly and brilliantly a number of times that day. Appears we got a bit carried away with our(young) selves v Swans and when momentum swung, fear and uncertainty took over. The mental aspect is a huge part of any sport, regardless of game plan. Players, especially inexperienced ones, are not robots. My fear this year is whether we can rebound quickly from this loss given the current make up of the team missing a lot of experience. Also, we look to be trying to take the game on more and this may result in a step or two backwards before it becomes the norm.

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                        • KTigers
                          Senior Player
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 2499

                          #27
                          Clearly we weren't "on" against the Suns. Even in the first quarter they missed some complete sitters, and the quarter time score
                          flattered us. Yet we remain fourth on the ladder. You don't need to be the best team in the comp to win a premiership, you just
                          need to get to the finals and play really well when you do. Our best isn't as good as Richmond's best, and it looks like GWS have
                          woken up and remembered who they are and I imagine we will struggle against them. West Coast are pretty good too, but we've
                          beaten them twice this year so there is something about the way we match up with them that favours us. Everyone else I reckon
                          we can beat. I get that long time supporters get excited about seeing new younger players come onto the scene, but in what are
                          likely to be tough, grinding games I would lean towards taking as many experienced guys in as we can. We're not going to be
                          able to revolutionise our game style overnight and suddenly kick twenty goals every game. It's just not
                          going to happen. We do have the ability to get on a roll and string together six, seven, eight wins in a row. We've done it many
                          times over the years and it's set up our season. I just don't think we're out of the picture just yet.

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                          • Hotpotato
                            Senior Player
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 2271

                            #28
                            Fitzy is pretty open and funny talking on BOB about being drafted at The Swans.

                            He hated his first roommate , a ex private school blond haired kid. “This kid is an idiot”, he thought.
                            Then he went to the first training session and the blond kid was immediately throwing his head into Paul Kelly and Darren Creswell.
                            Fitzy then thinks “This kid is something special.”
                            His name was Jude Boton and they have been great mates ever since.

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