#AFL Rd 18 Swans v Suns, SCG, 21 July 2018 @SydneySwans #SwansSuns

[Hotpotato]

Heard on the radio:
Was listening when a Lady rang a Sports programme .
She said she was sitting behind the benches . After quarter time, a Suns player runs off and a Swans player (she didn’t say who ) sledges him with .
“Mate you’re the worst team in the comp. What are you doing here?”

When this was relayed , the Suns took almost total control of the game.

[MattW]

That's the key. We have a large group of technically gifted but inexperienced players who are used to winning. But we no longer have the right group of leaders to hold the team together. Kennedy is a leader-by-example; without Jack and McVeigh, we no longer have that "generalissimo" type leader who can rally the troops. Rampe tries hard, but his influence is really only in the back line. The result is that the youngsters keep doing what they always do, and get more and more and frustrated when it doesn't work.
You see it lot in junior team sport - a successful team has one or two natural leaders who pull the team together when the chips are down. But those leaders are usually the first players promoted to the seniors, and then the junior team runs around like headless chooks until a new leader is found.
We're barely a top-four team this year, especially with so many injuries, and we desperately need McVeigh fit and firing (and pointing) to get the show back on the road before the charge to the finals.

Good one. I think Mills might be the next 'generalissimo' player in our squad. I think Isaac is more a lead by example kind of player.

[barry]

Heard on the radio:
Was listening when a Lady rang a Sports programme .
She said she was sitting behind the benches . After quarter time, a Suns player runs off and a Swans player (she didn’t say who ) sledges him with .
“Mate you’re the worst team in the comp. What are you doing here?”

When this was relayed , the Suns took almost total control of the game.

Hasn't she heard of carlton.?

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The only way we're going to get McHack back is if Jesus comes back and performs a miracle.
A broken collarbone (even with surgery) will take months to repair.

I tend to agree. McVeigh has played his best for many years this year because he wasn't carrying an injury. He, like towers, need to be 110% fit to be senior selectable.

Will he be in a month's time?

[Markwebbos]

The only way we're going to get McHack back is if Jesus comes back and performs a miracle.
A broken collarbone (even with surgery) will take months to repair.

They were talking about having Macca back in time for Pies or Melbourne. Although that does seem quick. Maybe you can play with a plate holding it together?

We definitely would benefit from more experience in the side. We just lack ANY experienced players who are fit and in form, other than potentially Grundy and Kizza.

[Plugger1300]

So she heard him relay it to the whole team at quarter time and used as direct motivation
Impressive

Hope Goddard hits us with one like this on Friday night

[stevoswan]

Part of Titus O'Reilly's reflection on our game: The Monday Knee Jerk Reaction: AFL Round Eighteen | Titus O'Reily

So bad was this loss for the Swans, that I believe they will be forced to relocate to Tasmania.

It was embarrassing. Sydney were up by 29 points after a six-goal opening quarter.

They then kicked just two more goals for the remaining three quarters. The Suns kicked eleven.

What was most surprising is the lack of interest from the Swans after the first quarter. I’ve seen more intensity from a room of stoned teenagers.

It’s hard to explain what’s wrong with the Swans.

When they win everyone raves about the young talent they've unearthed, when they lose, it’s because Buddy takes up all the salary cap and they have no supporting talent.

Both those explanations can’t be right.

Spot on.....especially the emboldened bits......

[rojo]

So he will be right in time for the finals!

[AnnieH]

They were talking about having Macca back in time for Pies or Melbourne. Although that does seem quick. Maybe you can play with a plate holding it together?

We definitely would benefit from more experience in the side. We just lack ANY experienced players who are fit and in form, other than potentially Grundy and Kizza.

Probably on an arm or a leg, but on a collarbone? I'd be concerned and all paranoid about someone knocking it (or targeting it) and doing serious neck damage. But I guess that's just me.
I had a steel plate and a heap of screws put into my leg years ago... upside was that I could walk on it a week later, but it's never really "healed". Bad breaks never really do.

[goswannies]

They were talking about having Macca back in time for Pies or Melbourne. Although that does seem quick. Maybe you can play with a plate holding it together?

We definitely would benefit from more experience in the side. We just lack ANY experienced players who are fit and in form, other than potentially Grundy and Kizza.

The plate only holds it in position. The bone continues to heal over a 6-8 week period (sometimes slower). The plate is often taken out down the track (post season in this instance) if it’s causing troubles (it’s positioned quite superficially)

[goswannies]

Probably on an arm or a leg, but on a collarbone? I'd be concerned and all paranoid about someone knocking it (or targeting it) and doing serious neck damage. But I guess that's just me.

The collarbone attaches to the sternum and the shoulder blade (via the acrimon) so as far as bony anatomy goes, there should be no impact on the neck. The only thing that might is that the sternocleidomastoid muscle attaches to the top of the collarbone and originate at its attachment at the base of the temporal bone of the skull.

[AnnieH]

The collarbone attaches to the sternum and the shoulder blade (via the acrimon) so as far as bony anatomy goes, there should be no impact on the neck. The only thing that might is that the sternocleidomastoid muscle attaches to the top of the collarbone and originate at its attachment at the base of the temporal bone of the skull.

The knee bone attaches to the ankle bone;
The shoulder bone attaches to the thigh bone;
The hip bone attaches to the wrist bone...

Ok.
MY paranoia would stop me from playing if my neck was even in the slightest chance of getting damaged.

[goswannies]

The knee bone attaches to the ankle bone;
The shoulder bone attaches to the thigh bone;
The hip bone attaches to the wrist bone...

I didn’t think I saw you in my anatomy class!

Ok.
MY paranoia would stop me from playing if my neck was even in the slightest chance of getting damaged.

Fair call. I think, from a neck perspective, risk vs reward, it’s probably ok. I doubt they’d play him if there was any risk.

[chammond]

The only way we're going to get McHack back is if Jesus comes back and performs a miracle.
A broken collarbone (even with surgery) will take months to repair.

I'm sure I read an interview with him that said he expected to be right for Round 22, and I see that the website predicts he'll be out for 3 more weeks (round 21??).

I've never broken a collar-bone, but friends who have tell me that the pain is excruciating but the recovery is quite straightforward.

Fingers crossed!

[YvonneH]

Was is Jared Crouch that broke a collar bone some time ago?

[AnnieH]

Was is Jared Crouch that broke a collar bone some time ago?

Didn't he dislocate his shoulder during a game and just pop it back in and play on?
Or was it his knee?