#AFL Rd19 Bombers v Swans, Docklands, 27 July 2018

[waswan]

Dont rest anyway play to the finish line
We could have key injuries in pre season then do we wait til 2020 ?
Richmond could fall over with injury collingwood are

You only need a month of good lucky footy to win it all

[stevoswan]

While we have some excuses for our poor form at the moment, considering what happened at the Lakeside Oval in Sth Melbourne a day earlier, what the team served up on Friday night was an insult to a club legend.....

Bob Skilton stands proud at Lakeside Stadium - sydneyswans.com.au

[CureTheSane]

Dont rest anyway play to the finish line
We could have key injuries in pre season then do we wait til 2020 ?
Richmond could fall over with injury collingwood are

You only need a month of good lucky footy to win it all

Yep.

I get that people get disappointed.
Look at Collingwood and Essendon earlier in the season - rejuvenated, hungry and playing great footy.
No reason we can't turn it around.

I guarantee the players aren't thinking about next year.
Why should we?
We're in it until we aren't....

[crackedactor]

I don’t really understand why Jones is offered a penalty at all for the hit on Langford.

I also don’t understand why he cops so much criticism here.

I don't understand it either? They call him a thug, when he is no thug! It you want the see football thugs just watch the Hawthorn team of the 1980s. He may be a bull at the gate and run flat out all the time. But no thug. I thought 2 weeks was excessive. One. Week more app.


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[dimelb]

Yep.

I get that people get disappointed.
Look at Collingwood and Essendon earlier in the season - rejuvenated, hungry and playing great footy.
No reason we can't turn it around.

I guarantee the players aren't thinking about next year.
Why should we?
We're in it until we aren't....

As I see it, injuries are the reason we can't turn it around. Even if we were to make the finals (which I now don't think will happen) we would be fielding still-injured players. True, so would some other teams, but on the whole not at the level of ours.

So I share the view that we should rest the ones who need it and give our younger players as much Firsts experience as we can, and don't spoil the opportunity by expecting huge wins, or wins of any kind for that matter.

And work everyone hard on skills.

[liz]

I don't understand it either? They call him a thug, when he is no thug! It you want the see football thugs just watch the Hawthorn team of the 1980s. He may be a bull at the gate and run flat out all the time. But no thug. I thought 2 weeks was excessive. One. Week more app.


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Watching it live (well, on TV) I thought he was contesting the ball. But while the ball was in the vicinity, his action was that normally described as "choosing to bump", and he did get the Essendon player high. So the rules and prior MRP/MRO cases dictate that he get a suspension unless the contact was deemed to be insignificant. I must admit I thought he'd only get the one but the fact that the Essendon player went to hospital apparently counted against him. I thought he'd get a week for the high contact before the opening whistle (Hawkins would have got several) so even though two for the bump seems a little rough, the total of two weeks is what I was expecting.

I certainly think the description of the bump on the AFL site as "vicious", or any descriptions of him as a thug are unwarranted. He was entitled to bump in the circumstances and the player should have been expecting contact. It was a suspendable act but not a thuggish one or a particularly hard bump.

[liz]

As I see it, injuries are the reason we can't turn it around. Even if we were to make the finals (which I now don't think will happen) we would be fielding still-injured players. True, so would some other teams, but on the whole not at the level of ours.

So I share the view that we should rest the ones who need it and give our younger players as much Firsts experience as we can, and don't spoil the opportunity by expecting huge wins, or wins of any kind for that matter.

And work everyone hard on skills.

I'm half in the "rest" camp and half out.

The one player I think they would be wise to put out to pasture for this season is Hannebery, with an eye to the rest of his career. A decent period of rest and then a slowly building pre-season might enable him to shake off whatever (presumed groin) issues have been ailing him.


As for the rest, it's hard to make judgement without knowing what it troubling them. My expectation is that Buddy will battle on, unless he actually can't play. And unless an extended period of rest will improve his chances of a full pre-season next year (unlikely - he seems to need operations at the end of every year), he might as well keep on playing. Sure, we did win games against Geelong and Hawthorn without him, but I think the likes of McCartin, Hayward and Ronke will continue to learn quicker playing alongside him than trying to manufacture a forward line on their own.

Similarly, Kennedy will almost certainly battle on unless he's physically incapable.

Jack I'm ambivalent about. I don't see the same need to protect him for future years as applies to Hannebery because I suspect he doesn't have much more to give. If he's over his recent knee issue, even with his reduced output this year he probably offers more than likely replacement in the NEAFL side. We need to find someone to come in for Jones this week, so that's at least one new player needed. Maybe Towers offers more but he's about the only one.


I have no issue with McVeigh coming back in once he's healed. If this is to be his last season, he'll want to wring every game out of it and I think his organisation and leadership will help those down back. My only proviso is that I hope O'Riordan gets to play out the rest of the season in the seniors even if McVeigh does come back into the side.

[CureTheSane]

I don't understand it either? They call him a thug, when he is no thug! It you want the see football thugs just watch the Hawthorn team of the 1980s. He may be a bull at the gate and run flat out all the time. But no thug. I thought 2 weeks was excessive. One. Week more app.


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Jones is labeled as a thug because he looks like a thug to many people.
And he plays aggressively.
Probably a pretty nice guy though

[waswan]

As I see it, injuries are the reason we can't turn it around. Even if we were to make the finals (which I now don't think will happen) we would be fielding still-injured players. True, so would some other teams, but on the whole not at the level of ours.

So I share the view that we should rest the ones who need it and give our younger players as much Firsts experience as we can, and don't spoil the opportunity by expecting huge wins, or wins of any kind for that matter.

And work everyone hard on skills.

We have 3 weeks left and if we are lucky enough to make finals then its a 2 horse race each week
An extra 3 or 4 weeks rest now for a season that starts next April is irrelevant

[Hotpotato]

I make it 4 games to go:

PIES LOSE
DEES WIN
GWS. LOSE
HAWKS WIN

But I actually have no idea, if The BLUES can subsequently go to Metricon and beat SUNS easily FGS.

If they are given free reign (we don’t mind how many mistakes you make) to just enjoy themselves playing footy for the last 4 games who knows how successfully they could turn it around because the whole comp has basically written the Swans out of 2018 completely now.

[Matty10]

We have 3 weeks left and if we are lucky enough to make finals then its a 2 horse race each week
An extra 3 or 4 weeks rest now for a season that starts next April is irrelevant

Absolutely. There is no point waiting for the 'just right' moment in football - it may never come - there are simply opportunities, and those that take them.

We have at least four weeks of opportunities in front of us. What happens later we can deal with then.

[Hotpotato]

The footy world just have to keep reaffirming to the TIGERS that they already have the Premiership in the bag.

[Ludwig]

It's hard to see where our improvement will come from. It seems the consensus of opinion that we are playing the worst footy most of us have seen in over 20 years. We are out of the finals as of now and there's no reason for us to get back in with 4 games left, all probably losses based on form.

We have a good opportunity to finish 11th, which opens up the draft for us. We might be able to get Blakey plus another top 10 pick. I still like our list going forward. It's not such a big deal to have a write-off season. It happens all the time, just not often to the Swans.

[Foreign Legion]

They were the worst I have seen in a while. There were a bunch of racist, homophobic, obnoxious trolls sitting near me.

Glad you were near the good ones.

[waswan]

The footy world just have to keep reaffirming to the TIGERS that they already have the Premiership in the bag.

Like we had it in the bag in 2014 and 2016