#AFL Round 22 Swans vs Giants, SS, Sat 18 Aug 4:35pm @sydneyswans #AFLGiantsSwans

[Nico]

I wonder how Magden feels after the condescending words of Gleeson. Clearly a journo who doesn't watch all the games. Absolute shallow journalism by a bloke who has been around a long time but his name doesn't come to mind when discussing footy journos.

[CureTheSane]

Tippett is so far gone that he should be ignored but he’s technically still on our list and his big (fit) body was a good decoy for Bud (forcing the use of an opposition big defender) & would have been a great back-up for Sink/Naismith.

Absolutely disagree with that.
We went in to the year with Tippett on the list and had he stayed uninjured (lolz) he would have been a real asset.
Had he retired last year he would have been replaced on our list. Not sure by whom given salary cap etc and the way it might have all worked out.

[liz]

Sinkers will get The Falcon of the year on Bounce.

Did it even hit him on the head? Looks to me like it bounced off his shoulder.

[goswannies]

Absolutely disagree with that.
We went in to the year with Tippett on the list and had he stayed uninjured (lolz) he would have been a real asset.
Had he retired last year he would have been replaced on our list. Not sure by whom given salary cap etc and the way it might have all worked out.

Oh, a agree with all you say. And I’ve always thought we were potentially a better side with him & I’ve always been pro Tippett (#1 post of the Tippett thread ). I also thought, unless his body was genuinely gone, he should have gone on. But given that he’s “retired”, for me he’s out of the equation really. If there was a chance of a comeback, that’s different.

[Sandrevan]

Franklin a week-to-week proposition: Longmire - AFL.com.au

I thought Longmires comment was very vague. probably just a diversion.

[royboy42]

Reality is Reid is the only one missing that would make us significantly better
Mills a gun but the replacements arent doing that bad
Outside of Robbo and Fox its hard to see who would come out

Then there is Rohan, i could see the cats chasing him after letting Menzel go

Not often someone described as a 'gun' is not capable of making a team 'significantly better".

[waswan]

Not often someone described as a 'gun' is not capable of making a team 'significantly better".

He is an extra 8-10 possessions from whoever he would replace down back
Good but we are coverimg better than most teams are covering their losses

Reid changes our whole forward line

[MattW]

I wonder how Magden feels after the condescending words of Gleeson. Clearly a journo who doesn't watch all the games. Absolute shallow journalism by a bloke who has been around a long time but his name doesn't come to mind when discussing footy journos.

Gleeson hasn't been the only one describe Madgen as such. For the last few weeks, in the footy commentariat generally, his name has effectively been: 'A basketballer in his first/second/third game'. That's self-evidently incorrect: he's playing Australian rules football; he's a footballer.

[Sandrevan]

On the AFL site match review the free kick count was 20-17 in our favour.

I listened on MMM and it seemed every time Hanners was mentioned there was a turnover - I thought Hanners is up to his old tricks again. I think injuries did play a part; more with Phil Davis than Griffin but Davis' injury was friendly fire. The Swans dominated in the second half but we couldn't convert on the scoreboard until late in the game.

I suspect the Swans have adopted a subtle game plan where we don't play too hard in Q1 and Q2. Last week against Melbourne we came over the top in the 2nd half; same with this game. In recent games our opposition have come out hard at the start. We've looked a bit ordinary but picked up in the 2nd half. Does this strategy remind anyone of another team in the AFL - maybe Richmond. How can Richmond be so full of running in Q4 like they've done many time this year. I suspect there's a bit more to our slow starts than just 'slow starts'

After the loss to Essendon I thought our year was done. If we beat Whorethorn next week we finish top 4. Interesting game this AFL

Swans in the GF 2012, 2014, 2016, 2018???

[liz]

On the AFL site match review the free kick count was 20-17 in our favour.

I listened on MMM and it seemed every time Hanners was mentioned there was a turnover - I thought Hanners is up to his old tricks again. I think injuries did play a part; more with Phil Davis than Griffin but Davis' injury was friendly fire. The Swans dominated in the second half but we couldn't convert on the scoreboard until late in the game.

I suspect the Swans have adopted a subtle game plan where we don't play too hard in Q1 and Q2. Last week against Melbourne we came over the top in the 2nd half; same with this game. In recent games our opposition have come out hard at the start. We've looked a bit ordinary but picked up in the 2nd half. Does this strategy remind anyone of another team in the AFL - maybe Richmond. How can Richmond be so full of running in Q4 like they've done many time this year. I suspect there's a bit more to our slow starts than just 'slow starts'

It's an interesting observation because, in the few preceding seasons we've been a team that has often come out hard and scored heavily in the first quarter and then just seemed to hang on for the rest of the game.

In the first half, the game was very high pressure from both sides but the Giants' hands were just a little bit cleaner than the Swans, whether that was dishing out a handball that extracted them from traffic, or marking overhead. I thought our handling got a little better as the game went on but the big difference was that the Giants' midfielders weren't able to sustain the same level of effort in the second half. I doubt the loss of Griffin (or the shifting of Davis) can account for quite how much they dropped off, but I do wonder if the previous two weeks, when they were down to practically no bench in the second half, took their toll.

[penga]

I listened on MMM and it seemed every time Hanners was mentioned there was a turnover

How did Jack sound on the call, considering his 10 clangers?

[KTigers]

Not too sure re this theory we are saving ourselves for big second halves. Weren't most of the seven straight goals against Melbourne
kicked in the second quarter. You'd think we're going to have to do a bit better than being 5.9.39 at 3/4 time, if we
are going to progress far in the finals. I'd prefer we wiped out the opposition with an eight goal to one first quarter and let the
opposition do the chasing. Besides I think we're pretty good at hanging on at the end of games generally.

[Ludwig]

Did it even hit him on the head? Looks to me like it bounced off his shoulder.

Maybe the intent of the ball was to only make contact with the shoulder, but whiplash resulted from the contact, which could have resulted in concussion. Negligent, High contact and medium impact. Lucky Sinclair was able to push through and play out the game. I think the ball should be suspended for a week and not see any action again until the finals. We've got to crack down of these balls before it gets out of control. We have to make an example of this ball as a warning to others.

[Mel_C]

I did laugh at the vision of Buddy arriving at the ground and strolling passed security while poor Heeney was rummaging through his bag trying to find his pass ????.

[caj23]

I suspect our recent dip in form coincided with a heavy training load

Hopefully it means we head into the finals full of running