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He strikes me as a person who is good at blaming others for his predicament and poor at reflecting on how his own choices contributed to them. I don't wish him badly but a bit more self awareness and resilience would go a long way to getting out of this situation. And yes, surely he could get a job if he chose to do so.He had observed that people who did lie were, on the whole, more resourceful and ambitious and successful than people who did not lie.Comment
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He's our premiership captain.
If you don't have something nice to say....The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.Comment
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Pretty gutsy to make his predicament public and then to be hammered on social media.
Hope he finds an employment niche , he’d be a good personal trainer.
The $$$ they get playing footy spoils them to do something for the average income.Comment
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I’m in two minds here:
First I hate the right wing tactic of using the concept “political correct” to attack any opposition to rudeness, hatred or just plain inappropriate behaviour.
On the other hand I do feel a bit sorry for Barry Hall. He clearly recognises his huge mistake and shouldn’t be permanently punished for it.Comment
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What I find interesting in all this is that the people who were offended by his comment are now attacking his wife and child on social media.
“He has lost his job because of it, our son and myself are being attacked (which is a whole other conversation, because how is verbally abusing a woman and innocent child an accepted response to someone being accused of being disrespectful to women?) and is getting labelled as something he is not.”
Seems there is no end to hypocrisy.Comment
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That's not what I got from the article I read. He did acknowledge his error, and resolved not to repeat it.
The real question is what do you do with someone like that? I am concerned that society today has very little forgiveness in it. We are very quick to condemn and vilify people who make mistakes. I don't think that is the Swans way - the way the club reached out to him at the champions dinner a few years back was great, and I think pretty special to Barry.
OTOH, even if we do forgive him, maybe it is appropriate that he not be given another job in the media.
Tricky issues which make me reluctant to judge one way or the other.Comment
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WE don't need to forgive him of anything.
His wife needs to forgive him for the predicament that he's put his young family into.
I believe this club does ALL that it can to ensure that our boys have something to fall back onto when their footy careers end. Tiger is a teacher, Ted is a stockbroker, Kels is a plumber, Paps is a plumber, even the Canadian Myke Pyke got his @@@@ together (as a very small sample section). What was Barry doing when the club was offering post-football career options?
He's finished as far as the media goes. He's got NOTHING to fall back on.
Do we blame the club or do we blame Barry?Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.Comment
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There is plenty Barry could do, bouncer, security, speaking circuit, traffic management, police, armed forces, ect, ect. Or he could just wait 12 months until all is forgiven then re apply, same as Gary Lyon.Comment
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Yes we do, everyone deserves forgiveness (outside of rape, murder and pedophilia) unless you have already 'washed your hands of him' for one 'socially unacceptable' comment......and I would say his 'partner' already has as she knows the real Barry Hall.....we 'keyboard warriors' do not.
....and a little reminder of what he means to our club......minor faults and all.
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I think you're missing Annie's point. There is no need to "forgive" him because he did nothing that warranted forgiveness by any member of the public. Whatever we individually thought about the comment, it had no impact on anyone. (I find it impossible to believe that anyone is still sitting in a corner feeling "offended" by what he said.)Comment
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OMG you are so holier than thou.
No... not everyone deserves forgiveness at all.
The only reason he was premiership captain is because the cards happened to fall in place that year for him.
I believe we were rotating captains regularly that year.Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.Comment
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