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  • dejavoodoo44
    Veterans List
    • Apr 2015
    • 8490

    #76
    Originally posted by Blood Fever
    Was at the game and by chance McGuire walked past me with his family after the game. He had a face like thunder and was copping a fair amount of stick as he passed by. Very enjoyable day!
    Just as long as he doesn't include us, in his plans for vengeance.

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    • longmile
      Crumber
      • Apr 2011
      • 3360

      #77
      Nation Collectively Laughs At Eddie McGuire — The Betoota Advocate

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      • goswannies
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2007
        • 3048

        #78
        Originally posted by crackedactor
        Glad to see an interstate side win the Flag, even though I dislike West Coast for their whining supporters. Not sure who their fitness coach is but they always finish their games full of running.


        Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
        By “interstate” teams, I take it you mean “non-Victorian”? For a New South Welsh person, an interstate team would be anything other than the Swans or Giants.
        As I’m a Victorian Swans supporter who unfortunately lives in SA, calling teams interstate is altogether confusing!

        - - - Updated - - -

        Is it mean that I want to see pictures of Edward’s misery?

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        • goswannies
          Senior Player
          • Sep 2007
          • 3048

          #79
          Not a big Nathan Buckley fan but I must respect 2 actions of his today. Consoling the Magpie cheer squad members when their banner fell apart quicker than Kurt Tippett, on the biggest stage, of the biggest day for them, in the most public of ways. The cheer squad are, in their own way, a significant part of the Grand Final day experience. They take their job very seriously and what occurred was quite embarrassing for them. At a time when Buckley’s attention could and should rightly have been on match day issues, he took the time to console the cheer squad. The second thing was his consoling the distraught runner after after the game. Even during the coverage when the incident occurred, many coaches would have gone ballistic. But video the cut to Bucks he was collected and measured. I might not like Collingwood or Bucks, but I do respect the character he showed in those moments.

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          • Hotpotato
            Senior Player
            • Jun 2014
            • 2261

            #80
            The ‘Boys Club’ (however with Kelli Underwood) and Dermie interviews with Eddie after the Pies previous two victories just bugged me.
            He just seems to rub you up the wrong way, Collingwood may be better with a less high profile, less volatile and far less anti Non Victorian President.
            He’s reached his use-by date and has gone off.
            He must annoy even some Collingwood people.

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            • Burra
              Warming the Bench
              • Mar 2008
              • 104

              #81
              Originally posted by stevoswan
              Well I guess that unfortunately takes the heat off the unfairness on i/state sides of the GF always being at the MCG......but that situation still sucks.
              Where should it be played then? Castlemaine?????

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              • barry
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 8499

                #82
                Great grand final. Collingwood losing by a goal at their home ground is 2nd best to the swans winning it.

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                • Sandridge
                  Outer wing, Lake Oval
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 2049

                  #83
                  Originally posted by goswannies
                  Not a big Nathan Buckley fan but I must respect 2 actions of his today. Consoling the Magpie cheer squad members when their banner fell apart quicker than Kurt Tippett, on the biggest stage, of the biggest day for them, in the most public of ways. The cheer squad are, in their own way, a significant part of the Grand Final day experience. They take their job very seriously and what occurred was quite embarrassing for them. At a time when Buckley’s attention could and should rightly have been on match day issues, he took the time to console the cheer squad. The second thing was his consoling the distraught runner after after the game. Even during the coverage when the incident occurred, many coaches would have gone ballistic. But video the cut to Bucks he was collected and measured. I might not like Collingwood or Bucks, but I do respect the character he showed in those moments.
                  My opinion of Buckley changed for the better after that "Malthouse/Buckley 2 coaches" thing. Malthouse carried on like a petulant brat while Buckley approached the situation with dignity and maturity. He's maintained that attitude ever since and obviously it was on display again today. While I still feel that he has an extremely healthy self image, I now find him to be quite likeable.

                  However, any positive feelings I have for the Collingwood coach are completely obliterated by my contempt for McGuire. Will never forgive what he said about Goodesy and how the gutless Collingwood board and leaders at AFL headquarters let him get away with it. Thrilled they lost!

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                  • goswannies
                    Senior Player
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 3048

                    #84
                    Originally posted by Sandridge
                    My opinion of Buckley changed for the better after that "Malthouse/Buckley 2 coaches" thing. Malthouse carried on like a petulant brat while Buckley approached the situation with dignity and maturity. He's maintained that attitude ever since and obviously it was on display again today. While I still feel that he has an extremely healthy self image, I now find him to be quite likeable.

                    However, any positive feelings I have for the Collingwood coach are completely obliterated by my contempt for McGuire. Will never forgive what he said about Goodesy and how the gutless Collingwood board and leaders at AFL headquarters let him get away with it. Thrilled they lost!
                    Can’t disagree with any of that

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                    • stevoswan
                      Veterans List
                      • Sep 2014
                      • 8543

                      #85
                      Originally posted by Burra
                      Where should it be played then? Castlemaine?????
                      Oh that's constructive..... Obviously at the home ground of the highest team......a massive crowd shouldn't be the measure of a venue merits. BTW, where do you live? Jolimont or Richmond?

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                      • Sandridge
                        Outer wing, Lake Oval
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 2049

                        #86
                        Would like to hear the opinion of others about the goal involving the Collingwood runner. The runner was apparently distraught after the game but, to me, it seemed he was a bit unlucky and was a victim of the Collingwood player's decision to kick the ball in his direction, especially seeing that the kick was going to a single Collingwood player who was close to 2 Eagle opponents.

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                        • 0918330512
                          Senior Player
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 1654

                          #87
                          Originally posted by Sandridge
                          Would like to hear the opinion of others about the goal involving the Collingwood runner. The runner was apparently distraught after the game but, to me, it seemed he was a bit unlucky and was a victim of the Collingwood player's decision to kick the ball in his direction, especially seeing that the kick was going to a single Collingwood player who was close to 2 Eagle opponents.
                          It does give some merit to limiting the time runners spend on the ground (although for different reasons)

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                          • 0918330512
                            Senior Player
                            • Sep 2011
                            • 1654

                            #88
                            Originally posted by stevoswan
                            Oh that's constructive..... Obviously at the home ground of the highest team.....a massive crowd shouldn't be the measure of a venue merits. BTW, where do you live? Jolimont or Richmond?
                            Perhaps not but it should be a contributing factor. Imagine a GW$ “Home” Grand Final played at a packed Škoda Stadium / Spotless Stadium in front of 25000 fans

                            The fact is that, of all the current home grounds, the capacity of the MCG is unique on allowing sufficient fans to attend to create an epic atmosphere, generate maximum funding from ticket sales and allowing the maximum number of patrons (supporters, members and corporate) to attend.

                            MCG (Melbourne) 100,024
                            Optus Stadium (Perth) 60,000
                            Docklands Stadium (Melbourne) 56,347
                            Adelaide Oval (Adelaide) 53,583
                            SCG (Sydney) 48,000
                            The Gabba (Brisbane) 42,000
                            Kardinia Park (Geelong) 36,000
                            Carrara Stadium (Gold Coast) 25,000
                            Sydney Showground Stadium (Sydney) 25000

                            The MCG, is in fact, the 10th largest capacity sporting stadium in the world (excluding horse and motor racing venues). And the only Stadium in the top 10 (apart from perhaps RUNGRADO MAY DAY STADIUM) with a playing surface area suitable for AFL football ... so perhaps a neutral North Korean venue might make the MCG-objectors happy?

                            Like it or not, capacity and revenue will always come into the equation when it comes to Grand Final Venues.

                            2 solutions are: build more bigger stadiums or have the MCG in-tenanted and un-used except for finals. Neither are realistic.

                            And before anyone suggests that holding a 3 Stadium Finals Series eg Optus Stadium (Perth) 60,000, Docklands Stadium (Melbourne) 56,347, Adelaide Oval (Adelaide) 53,583 would yield an aggregate attendance of nearly 170,000, the would be 3 times the costs associated with holding 3 grand finals (although this would be potentially mitigated by 3x TV rights I suppose). But with the AFLPA pushing for shorter seasons, I can’t see a 3 game Grand Final Series being accepted any time soon anyway. And all of this is pointless for the next 4 decades while the MCG arrangement is in place anyway.
                            Last edited by 0918330512; 30 September 2018, 12:30 AM.

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                            • AB Swannie
                              Senior Player
                              • Mar 2017
                              • 1579

                              #89
                              Originally posted by Sandridge
                              Would like to hear the opinion of others about the goal involving the Collingwood runner. The runner was apparently distraught after the game but, to me, it seemed he was a bit unlucky and was a victim of the Collingwood player's decision to kick the ball in his direction, especially seeing that the kick was going to a single Collingwood player who was close to 2 Eagle opponents.
                              I firmly believe that Yeo was odds on to mark that whether the runner interfered or not. It was a shocking decision and kick from the Collingwood supporter and the best Stephenson would’ve been able to do would have been a very late spoil but I’m not sure he would’ve got there in time.

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                              • Blood Fever
                                Veterans List
                                • Apr 2007
                                • 4040

                                #90
                                Originally posted by 09183305
                                Perhaps not but it should be a contributing factor. Imagine a GW$ “Home” Grand Final played at a packed Škoda Stadium / Spotless Stadium in front of 25000 fans

                                The fact is that, of all the current home grounds, the capacity of the MCG is unique on allowing sufficient fans to attend to create an epic atmosphere, generate maximum funding from ticket sales and allowing the maximum number of patrons (supporters, members and corporate) to attend.

                                MCG (Melbourne) 100,024
                                Optus Stadium (Perth) 60,000
                                Docklands Stadium (Melbourne) 56,347
                                Adelaide Oval (Adelaide) 53,583
                                SCG (Sydney) 48,000
                                The Gabba (Brisbane) 42,000
                                Kardinia Park (Geelong) 36,000
                                Carrara Stadium (Gold Coast) 25,000
                                Sydney Showground Stadium (Sydney) 25000

                                The MCG, is in fact, the 10th largest capacity sporting stadium in the world (excluding horse and motor racing venues). And the only Stadium in the top 10 (apart from perhaps RUNGRADO MAY DAY STADIUM) with a playing surface area suitable for AFL football ... so perhaps a neutral North Korean venue might make the MCG-objectors happy?

                                Like it or not, capacity and revenue will always come into the equation when it comes to Grand Final Venues.

                                2 solutions are: build more bigger stadiums or have the MCG in-tenanted and un-used except for finals. Neither are realistic.

                                And before anyone suggests that holding a 3 Stadium Finals Series eg Optus Stadium (Perth) 60,000, Docklands Stadium (Melbourne) 56,347, Adelaide Oval (Adelaide) 53,583 would yield an aggregate attendance of nearly 170,000, the would be 3 times the costs associated with holding 3 grand finals (although this would be potentially mitigated by 3x TV rights I suppose). But with the AFLPA pushing for shorter seasons, I can’t see a 3 game Grand Final Series being accepted any time soon anyway. And all of this is pointless for the next 4 decades while the MCG arrangement is in place anyway.
                                Can't get away from the fact that it is intrinsically unfair and therefore tainted for at least the next forty years. Embarrassing insular and parochial decision. International laughing stock.

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