Swans' Pre-season 2019

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  • MattW
    Veterans List
    • May 2011
    • 4220

    #31
    Originally posted by liz
    Has Buddy done anything approaching a full pre-season since he's been with the club? He seems to require some form of stitching back together at the end of every season. Last year it was a shoulder, I think. Or maybe a knee? Or both?

    Doesn't seem to impact him much once the season starts. (Or maybe it does, and what we get to see is the "Buddy restricted by never being able to complete a pre-season".)
    Yes. Just like 49 goals in 18 games from round 2 to the EF last year was "Buddy with a heel injury", having kicked 8 against the eventual premiers without a heel injury in round 1.

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    • Hotpotato
      Senior Player
      • Jun 2014
      • 2271

      #32
      If it takes Lance several games before he’s able to take the field, that will be OK, in order to get another year or possibly two before it’s all too onerous.

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      • stevoswan
        Veterans List
        • Sep 2014
        • 8560

        #33
        Originally posted by MattW
        I don't really know what that means. Reckon Lance, the coaches, all of us are bummed he will have a shorter preseason. Perhaps those who made the decision would make a different one in hindsight. But I don't see the point in potting them for it.
        It is annoying though.....it's like "here we go again!". When I saw the article I was not happy.

        Post edit: I'm still not happy.
        Last edited by stevoswan; 20 November 2018, 06:39 PM.

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        • Bloody Hell
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2006
          • 3085

          #34
          Originally posted by AB Swannie
          Franklin has had surgery on his groin and will not have a full pre-season. It would've been nice if he had gone in for the surgery at the end of the season but they were hoping rest in the Maldives would be enough.
          Older player. Better to miss the first 5 games of the season, then the last 5.
          The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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          • ernie koala
            Senior Player
            • May 2007
            • 3251

            #35
            Groin surgery for Franklin

            Well that's not a great start to the pre season.

            It was deemed by our medical staff that the groin injury Buddy sustained in round 22 would heal with rest....wrong unfortunately.

            So instead of having it repaired in mid September, it's 2 months later... and a game of catch up for Buddy for 2019.....hmmm.


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            • Melbourne_Blood
              Senior Player
              • May 2010
              • 3312

              #36
              Originally posted by Bloody Hell
              Older player. Better to miss the first 5 games of the season, then the last 5.
              Maybe not if we lose all 5


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              • KSAS
                Senior Player
                • Mar 2018
                • 1793

                #37
                Why would Buddy miss the first 5 games? According to Longmire he only did 15 minutes worth of training this season! If Buddy is able to commence full pre-season training in January as the club is predicting, he'll be ready to go for R1.

                I sometimes think pre-season is too long anyhow, particularly for seasoned players and whether it's better for their longevity if it was shortened in any case.

                To back this up, I remember in 2000 when the finals were held in August due to the Sydney Olympics and seasoned players commentating how fantastically refreshed their bodies felt for the following season due to the extra break.

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                • mcs
                  Travelling Swannie!!
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 8168

                  #38
                  Originally posted by waswan
                  Ling anybody ?

                  A big thing about Stoddart hetting drafted and still nothing about Ling

                  I know Stoddart played but bloody hell Ling is a 1st Rounder that we saw something in that no one else did that early.

                  Has the kid even been sighted in Sydney ? Doing my head in, the least talked about 1st Rnd draft pick ever
                  Its only because he was busted by an injury early last season that clearly was substantially harming his ability to do anything on the park (We tried to get him to play through it) that he has been sight unseen. The club rates him highly and with a full pre-season and a decent start to the next in reserves, is likely to be quickly into the mix for first team selection.
                  "You get the feeling that like Monty Python's Black Knight, the Swans would regard amputation as merely a flesh wound."

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                  • bloodspirit
                    Clubman
                    • Apr 2015
                    • 4448

                    #39
                    I don't know exactly how it works but surely players have some say in the medical treatment they receive? It may be that Buddy preferred to try and resolve the groin issue without surgery even though the club would have been happy to send him for surgery straight away.
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                    • Markwebbos
                      Veterans List
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 7186

                      #40
                      Originally posted by bloodspirit
                      I don't know exactly how it works but surely players have some say in the medical treatment they receive? It may be that Buddy preferred to try and resolve the groin issue without surgery even though the club would have been happy to send him for surgery straight away.
                      Surely it must always be the players decision

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                      • bloodspirit
                        Clubman
                        • Apr 2015
                        • 4448

                        #41
                        I'd like to think so but I have the impression that the club has a lot of say in these things. That may be partly because the clubs are paying for the treatment (probably via insurance) but also due to contractual terms. A bit like the contractual terms that stipulate all the activities players are not allowed to engage in on their own time. I don't really know how it works. Sometimes you hear someone like Tom Harley being interviewed about a player's injury and subsequent surgery saying something like "we decided to go with traditional surgery rather than LARS because...". This suggests to me that the club's have at least some involvement in the decisions.
                        All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                        • Markwebbos
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          #42
                          Originally posted by bloodspirit
                          I'd like to think so but I have the impression that the club has a lot of say in these things. That may be partly because the clubs are paying for the treatment (probably via insurance) but also due to contractual terms. A bit like the contractual terms that stipulate all the activities players are not allowed to engage in on their own time. I don't really know how it works. Sometimes you hear someone like Tom Harley being interviewed about a player's injury and subsequent surgery saying something like "we decided to go with traditional surgery rather than LARS because...". This suggests to me that the club's have at least some involvement in the decisions.
                          I presume the club pays for everything and the doctors give advice. I can’t imagine it’s legal, or a doctor would take part in, coercive surgery.

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                          • bloodspirit
                            Clubman
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 4448

                            #43
                            Obviously the players have to consent. But conceivably they could be in breach of contact if they refused to undertake treatment as reasonably prescribed by club's doctor.
                            All opinions are not equal. Some are a very great deal more robust, sophisticated, and well supported in logic and argument than others. -Douglas Adams, author (11 Mar 1952-2001)

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                            • CureTheSane
                              Carpe Noctem
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 5032

                              #44
                              Originally posted by bloodspirit
                              Obviously the players have to consent. But conceivably they could be in breach of contact if they refused to undertake treatment as reasonably prescribed by club's doctor.
                              Conceivably, yes, but realistically, not a hope in hell.
                              A player gets to choose his own medical procedures with all available information at hand. End of story.
                              The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                              • S.S. Bleeder
                                Senior Player
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 2165

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                                Older player. Better to miss the first 5 games of the season, then the last 5.
                                Agreed. For the last few seasons our problem hasn't been making the finals, it's been that we've run out of fit and healthy players in the finals. We've also run out of competent umpires in the finals but I think that's out of our control.

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