AFLX......why, oh why?

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  • bloodspirit
    Clubman
    • Apr 2015
    • 4448

    #16
    The purpose of the comp is to generate headlines and keep footy in the news for as much of the year as possible.
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    • stevoswan
      Veterans List
      • Sep 2014
      • 8573

      #17
      Originally posted by bloodspirit
      The purpose of the comp is to generate headlines and keep footy in the news for as much of the year as possible.
      Because it will never be a viable 'opposition' to the Big Bash.....summer is cricket and the BB and Test Cricket rules!

      Originally posted by Meg
      Yes, I suspect - or perhaps it’s an unrealistic hope - that this format is a way of winding down the comp without scrapping it altogether after the first year.
      Let's sincerely hope you are right.....

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      • Mel_C
        Veterans List
        • Jan 2003
        • 4470

        #18
        Originally posted by liz
        I suspect Dustin Martin was a first choice captain for the AFL too, and maybe he declined for the reasons I think Franklin would have been uncomfortable, leaving Riewoldt to step into his shoes.
        You are right Liz. Martin was one of the names mentioned at the time along with Buddy's.

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        • Bloody Hell
          Senior Player
          • Oct 2006
          • 3085

          #19
          Originally posted by CureTheSane
          I love the schoolyard pick system - if it is genuine.
          That's about all my interest
          How is that going to work if one team is all aboriginal players. The other 3 captains can't pick them?
          The eternal connundrum "what happens when an unstoppable force meets an immovable object" was finally solved when David Hasselhoff punched himself in the face.

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          • YvonneH
            Senior Player
            • Sep 2011
            • 1141

            #20
            Originally posted by CureTheSane
            I love the schoolyard pick system - if it is genuine.
            That's about all my interest
            I read it is going to be a 'live' draft.
            Could this concept (AFLX) get any worse?
            Please protect us from the AFL stupidity.

            Merry Xmas to all.

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            • Doctor J.
              Senior Player
              • Feb 2003
              • 1310

              #21
              Does this mean Melbourne cant defend it premiership?



              They were hoping to create a dynasty

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              • stellation
                scott names the planets
                • Sep 2003
                • 9723

                #22
                Whilst I'm with the general "I hope nobody gets hurt" sentiments, overall I think this is fine. I appreciate it seems a bit naff but I imagine kids will enjoy it.
                I knew him as a gentle young man, I cannot say for sure the reasons for his decline
                We watched him fade before our very eyes, and years before his time

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                • wolftone57
                  Veterans List
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 5861

                  #23
                  Originally posted by liz
                  It serves to massage the egos of the people at AFL House who dreamed up the concept a year ago and who aren't ready to accept it was a duff idea. And it massages the egos of (at least two of) the team captains, who already give the impression they think fairly well of themselves and now get to wear a jumper blazoned with a motif that encapsulates their brilliance.

                  I think it's quite fortunate that Buddy needs a little R'n'R over the off-season. Had he been fit, I'm sure the AFL would have brought some pressure on him to captain one of the sides. While he likes to strut on-field, off-field I don't think he has anything like the ego of the selected captains. Mind you, Eddie doesn't come across that way either and he's accepted the role as probably the highest profile current indigenous player after Franklin. I suspect Dustin Martin was a first choice captain for the AFL too, and maybe he declined for the reasons I think Franklin would have been uncomfortable, leaving Riewoldt to step into his shoes.

                  This format was ill-conceived for the local market. But I don't think that was the reason they invented it. I think it was invented yo play on soccer fields Worldwide. To get interest from kids who would generally play soccer. As a way of promoting the game in Europe, the USA, South America, Africa and Asia.

                  I personally believe we should tap the Asian Market. Pour money into development programs in Asia. If kids who's average income is going to be $35/week hear they can make $300,000/week playing Aussie Rules they will play. Yes Soccer pays more, in Europe, some Asian leagues (Japan, China & Korea), USA, but the chances of making it that far are about 100,000,000/1.

                  I mean most of the kids would take the money offered in the VFL, SANFL, WAFL and minor leagues with glee. I mean some of the Melbourne suburban league teams pay more than VFL clubs

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                  Last edited by wolftone57; 18 December 2018, 10:36 AM.

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                  • liz
                    Veteran
                    Site Admin
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 16786

                    #24
                    Originally posted by wolftone57
                    This format was ill-conceived for the local market. But I don't think that was the reason they invented it. I think it was invented yo play on soccer fields Worldwide. To get interest from kids who would generally play soccer. As a way of promoting the game in Europe, the USA, South America, Africa and Asia.

                    I personally believe we should tap the Asian Market. Pour money into development programs in Asia. If kids who's average income is going to be $35/week hear they can make $300,000/week playing Aussie Rules they will play. Yes Soccer pays more, in Europe, some Asian leagues (Japan, China & Korea), USA, but the chances of making it that far are about 100,000,000/1.

                    I mean most of the kids would take the money offered in the VFL, SANFL, WAFL and minor leagues with glee. I mean some of the Melbourne suburban league teams pay more than VFL clubs

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                    If they invented it for the overseas market, why spruik it with a competition using AFL players? No kid sitting in India or China or wherever is going to be inspired that their life may change by watching a one-off event featuring Fyfe and Dangerfield running around with Power Ranger motifs on their guernseys. It will take a multi-decade, grass-roots form of development to persuade people to play this version of game (and I use that description loosely). I'm not really sure that's a great use of the time and monetary resources of the AFL.

                    I presume the reference to the potential of earning $300k a week to be a typo. That's EPL kind of money.

                    Even if this form of the game did take off elsewhere (highly doubtful), it won't equip players to transition to proper AFL. The athletic, tactical and contact components aren't even in the same ballpark. Sure, there's a chance that the odd kid here or there might be able to transition (as Irish players occasionally do) but so what. And none of them is going to get an entry visa just so that they can come and join a Melbourne suburban league.

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                    • barry
                      Veterans List
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 8499

                      #25
                      The "I hope my players dont get hurt" is such a pessimistic, insular viewpoint. The AFL seems to suffer from it cronically and kills any representative/all-star type games.

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                      • CureTheSane
                        Carpe Noctem
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 5032

                        #26
                        Originally posted by Bloody Hell
                        How is that going to work if one team is all aboriginal players. The other 3 captains can't pick them?
                        I know right?
                        Does it mean that the other 3 teams cannot have indigenous players?
                        I don't like the concept much.

                        What inroads has cricket made into new countries with the 'ultra exciting' 20/20 format?
                        Pipe dreams of this AFLX attracting interest from new countries are pipe dreams.
                        Ill conceived shortcuts to new markets.
                        The difference between insanity and genius is measured only in success.

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                        • wolftone57
                          Veterans List
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 5861

                          #27
                          Originally posted by liz
                          If they invented it for the overseas market, why spruik it with a competition using AFL players? No kid sitting in India or China or wherever is going to be inspired that their life may change by watching a one-off event featuring Fyfe and Dangerfield running around with Power Ranger motifs on their guernseys. It will take a multi-decade, grass-roots form of development to persuade people to play this version of game (and I use that description loosely). I'm not really sure that's a great use of the time and monetary resources of the AFL.

                          I presume the reference to the potential of earning $300k a week to be a typo. That's EPL kind of money.

                          Even if this form of the game did take off elsewhere (highly doubtful), it won't equip players to transition to proper AFL. The athletic, tactical and contact components aren't even in the same ballpark. Sure, there's a chance that the odd kid here or there might be able to transition (as Irish players occasionally do) but so what. And none of them is going to get an entry visa just so that they can come and join a Melbourne suburban league.
                          Sorry that should have been per year

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                          • wolftone57
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 5861

                            #28
                            Originally posted by liz
                            If they invented it for the overseas market, why spruik it with a competition using AFL players? No kid sitting in India or China or wherever is going to be inspired that their life may change by watching a one-off event featuring Fyfe and Dangerfield running around with Power Ranger motifs on their guernseys. It will take a multi-decade, grass-roots form of development to persuade people to play this version of game (and I use that description loosely). I'm not really sure that's a great use of the time and monetary resources of the AFL.

                            I presume the reference to the potential of earning $300k a week to be a typo. That's EPL kind of money.

                            Even if this form of the game did take off elsewhere (highly doubtful), it won't equip players to transition to proper AFL. The athletic, tactical and contact components aren't even in the same ballpark. Sure, there's a chance that the odd kid here or there might be able to transition (as Irish players occasionally do) but so what. And none of them is going to get an entry visa just so that they can come and join a Melbourne suburban league.
                            For a start they get on AFL lists via the Cat B Rookie system. T g en of that does not work out then tgey can transition to the lower levels.

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                            • Adelaide Swan
                              Up There For Sydney!
                              • May 2010
                              • 326

                              #29
                              I’m no fan of AFLX but I can see the purpose of it to grow the game internationally. Especially those outside the Commomwealth who don’t have cricket grounds.

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                              • barry
                                Veterans List
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 8499

                                #30
                                Originally posted by Adelaide Swan
                                I’m no fan of AFLX but I can see the purpose of it to grow the game internationally. Especially those outside the Commomwealth who don’t have cricket grounds.
                                Having a game that can be played on soccer or rugby fields opens up a whole lot of markets both in and out of Australia, but what that has to do with the 4 teams playing in Melbourne... on an oval, I dont know ?

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