2019 Swans academy and U18 discussion

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  • dimelb
    pr. dim-melb; m not f
    • Jun 2003
    • 6889

    #31
    Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
    Yes, but surely two grandparents and a brother playing for us, is worth some sort of points discount? We should run it by Gil and Eddie: I'm sure they won't mind.
    He reminds him of the guys, close-set, slow, and never rattled, who were play-makers on the team. (John Updike, seeing Josh Kennedy in a crystal ball)

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    • stevoswan
      Veterans List
      • Sep 2014
      • 8559

      #32
      Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
      Yes, but surely two grandparents and a brother playing for us, is worth some sort of points discount? We should run it by Gil and Eddie: I'm sure they won't mind.
      .....over a friendly coffee perhaps?

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      • Meg
        Go Swannies!
        Site Admin
        • Aug 2011
        • 4828

        #33
        Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
        Yes, but surely two grandparents and a brother playing for us, is worth some sort of points discount? We should run it by Gil and Eddie: I'm sure they won't mind.
        With a laptop to show them the Papley/Bray family tree.

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        • dejavoodoo44
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2015
          • 8637

          #34
          Originally posted by Meg
          With a laptop to show them the Papley/Bray family tree.
          Yes, genetically, I think that two grandfathers equals one father.

          - - - Updated - - -

          Originally posted by stevoswan
          .....over a friendly coffee perhaps?
          Yes, and with Cynthia Banham subtly positioned at a nearby table.

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          • troyjones2525
            Swans Fanatic!
            • Mar 2008
            • 2908

            #35
            Loving this new NAB League and the live streams. Our Academy side has looked really impressive! Ellem and young Campbell a couple of goals in the 3rd quater and we've blown GWS away even though they are supposed to have more highly rated top end talent in their draft year this year.

            I think we might get a few surprises who shine and become highly rated and possibly some boys drafted out of this team by the end of the year.

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            • dejavoodoo44
              Veterans List
              • Apr 2015
              • 8637

              #36
              Originally posted by troyjones2525
              Loving this new NAB League and the live streams. Our Academy side has looked really impressive! Ellem and young Campbell a couple of goals in the 3rd quater and we've blown GWS away even though they are supposed to have more highly rated top end talent in their draft year this year.

              I think we might get a few surprises who shine and become highly rated and possibly some boys drafted out of this team by the end of the year.

              Sent from my SM-G975F using Tapatalk
              I was impressed with Campbell, he certainly seems to have a skill set. I was also impressed with the smothers that were completed and the second and third efforts. Possibly they're talking after their coach.

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              • liz
                Veteran
                Site Admin
                • Jan 2003
                • 16773

                #37
                I thought it was a very impressive performance by the team, not just to win, but to do it so convincingly. At quarter time I feared they were going to be blown away, because the Giants were far superior in the air and also much better at kicking to a team mate (rather than just throwing it on the boot). I don't think I can remember the Swans taking a contested mark in the first half. But as the game wore on, they were able to make it more and more a scrap for the ball at ground level and there weren't enough Giants players on for that.

                Campbell clearly has a bit of class and some decent acceleration, though he's not super quick. Ellem looks bigger, if anything, and not especially agile. He was an important target but I think he'll need to change his body shape considerably if he has hopes of graduating to the next level.

                Another who had a good game (and played well last week too) is Heeney-clone, Marc Sheather. He's got the same shock of blonde hair and is almost the exact same height and body shape (at least the 17yo Heeney body shape). He kicked three nice goals and took one aerial mark that suggests he might bear more than just a physical resemblance to Isaac. He's another under-aged player (like Campbell and Gulden) so there's plenty of development left in him yet.

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                • troyjones2525
                  Swans Fanatic!
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 2908

                  #38
                  Originally posted by liz
                  I thought it was a very impressive performance by the team, not just to win, but to do it so convincingly. At quarter time I feared they were going to be blown away, because the Giants were far superior in the air and also much better at kicking to a team mate (rather than just throwing it on the boot). I don't think I can remember the Swans taking a contested mark in the first half. But as the game wore on, they were able to make it more and more a scrap for the ball at ground level and there weren't enough Giants players on for that.

                  Campbell clearly has a bit of class and some decent acceleration, though he's not super quick. Ellem looks bigger, if anything, and not especially agile. He was an important target but I think he'll need to change his body shape considerably if he has hopes of graduating to the next level.

                  Another who had a good game (and played well last week too) is Heeney-clone, Marc Sheather. He's got the same shock of blonde hair and is almost the exact same height and body shape (at least the 17yo Heeney body shape). He kicked three nice goals and took one aerial mark that suggests he might bear more than just a physical resemblance to Isaac. He's another under-aged player (like Campbell and Gulden) so there's plenty of development left in him yet.
                  Yeah liked the look of him last week too! Didn't realise he was a bottom ager as well so plenty of upside for him also!

                  We have some good talent coming through the Academy which is a credit to all the coaches and talent scouts!

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                  • MattW
                    Veterans List
                    • May 2011
                    • 4218

                    #39
                    I caught the last quarter at the ground.

                    Very impressive, although they had the Giants well beaten by that time.

                    I was going to make the same comment about Sheather - the resemblance to Heeney is uncanny.

                    I was also impressed by Parker, who is a bit of a bull, kicked well for goal from open play, and celebrates them like his namesake. I was impressed with a couple of touches by Youlten too, including a spearing entry and a contested mark reminiscent of a previous bearer of the number 21 guernsey.

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                    • Mr Magoo
                      Senior Player
                      • May 2008
                      • 1255

                      #40
                      The 16s academy team also had a good win against the giants in the game after the 18's. Good day all round for the swans.

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                      • Mr Magoo
                        Senior Player
                        • May 2008
                        • 1255

                        #41
                        Under 18s up against Sandringham this weekend. Will be interesting to see how they match up as they have won easily against Tassie and GWS in two games to date.

                        Errol Gulden back in the team after his leather poisoning bout from week one along with two other under agers in Campbell and Sheather.

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                        • dejavoodoo44
                          Veterans List
                          • Apr 2015
                          • 8637

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Mr Magoo
                          Under 18s up against Sandringham this weekend. Will be interesting to see how they match up as they have won easily against Tassie and GWS in two games to date.

                          Errol Gulden back in the team after his leather poisoning bout from week one along with two other under agers in Campbell and Sheather.
                          Yes, since Sandringham are top, it will be interesting. We could get a reality check. While a win would mean a bit of excitement about the talent coming through. And a possible whinge from McGuire about our academy.

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                          • liz
                            Veteran
                            Site Admin
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 16773

                            #43
                            Originally posted by dejavoodoo44
                            Yes, since Sandringham are top, it will be interesting. We could get a reality check. While a win would mean a bit of excitement about the talent coming through. And a possible whinge from McGuire about our academy.
                            Apparently Sandringham (and many of the other Victorian NAB League sides) will have many of their better players missing due to trial games and/or APS footy.

                            I just tuned in a few minutes early to the YouTube broadcast and they had the team line-ups on the screen. One of the Swans' opponents today is Jai Florent, younger brother of Ollie. I just looked him up to check he is, indeed, Ollie's younger brother (he is) and saw that this is his first game for the season with the Dragons, so he's clearly one in to replace the missing topliners.

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                            • ugg
                              Can you feel it?
                              Site Admin
                              • Jan 2003
                              • 15970

                              #44
                              Not sure if it’s been stated but stats (not live) are available on the Footy Live app
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                              • liz
                                Veteran
                                Site Admin
                                • Jan 2003
                                • 16773

                                #45
                                Impressive first quarter by our lads. 5.1 to Sandringham's 2.3. First two goals to Harry Maguire, last two to Braedon Campbell, with one to Thorne sandwiched in between.

                                They more than matched Sandringham at ground level in that first quarter, and though I reckon Sandringham may have had more inside-50s, the Swans were far more effective once they got the ball forward.

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