AFL Round 10 weekly discussion thread

[Mark26]

I wonder if Max Gawn would like a change of scenery. He doesn't appear to be having much fun today.

Gawn would be a tasty prospect! Make it happen recruiting team.

[barry]

I wonder if Max Gawn would like a change of scenery. He doesn't appear to be having much fun today.

He is the type of player who may chase a premiership elsewhere if Melbourne don't improve.

[Meg]

This must be heartbreaking for Paddy McCartin and his family. It is so concerning for both his immediate and long-term health and quality of life.


“ST KILDA key forward Paddy McCartin has detailed the extent of his lingering concussion symptoms and the grave concern for his wellbeing in a remarkably raw interview.

The No.1 pick in the 2014 draft sustained the eighth concussion in his AFL career in a JLT Community Series match against the Western Bulldogs in March.

McCartin still struggles to perform day-to-day activities such as going to the supermarket or a café and driving a car, and is unable to physically exert himself beyond being on an exercise bike.”

Following consultation with his doctors and specialists, Paddy McCartin has been placed on St Kilda's long-term injury list 'Shell of a person': Saint's heartbreaking admission on concussion battle - AFL.com.au

[Markwebbos]

This must be heartbreaking for Paddy McCartin and his family. It is so concerning for both his immediate and long-term health and quality of life.


“ST KILDA key forward Paddy McCartin has detailed the extent of his lingering concussion symptoms and the grave concern for his wellbeing in a remarkably raw interview.

The No.1 pick in the 2014 draft sustained the eighth concussion in his AFL career in a JLT Community Series match against the Western Bulldogs in March.

McCartin still struggles to perform day-to-day activities such as going to the supermarket or a café and driving a car, and is unable to physically exert himself beyond being on an exercise bike.”

Following consultation with his doctors and specialists, Paddy McCartin has been placed on St Kilda's long-term injury list 'Shell of a person': Saint's heartbreaking admission on concussion battle - AFL.com.au

Absolutely. I heard him being interviewed on the radio. Surely he needs to never play the game again.

[crackedactor]

No doubt G. Ablett will be let off with a closed fist to the head .

Thought a closed fist is a punch?? Maybe a bit of sacarism! He has to get a week. Just a side note. Jude Bolton said the morning the Swans have the best group of young players in the league and it will just be a waiting game for supporters before success comes. Some people may say he is bias, but personally I have found him to be a very good judge.


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[Mel_C]

Any reason why WCE didn't wear an indigenous jumper?

I was wondering the same thing. Apparently it would have clashed with the Crows jumper so they wore it last week.

[Meg]

AFL Round 10 weekly discussion thread

Heartbreaking loss for Brisbane by one point, kicked by Michael Walters after the siren. The Lions were 10 points up with 5 minutes to go but seemed to have run out of legs. Their defenders were under siege for the remaining time.

[dejavoodoo44]

This must be heartbreaking for Paddy McCartin and his family. It is so concerning for both his immediate and long-term health and quality of life.


“ST KILDA key forward Paddy McCartin has detailed the extent of his lingering concussion symptoms and the grave concern for his wellbeing in a remarkably raw interview.

The No.1 pick in the 2014 draft sustained the eighth concussion in his AFL career in a JLT Community Series match against the Western Bulldogs in March.

McCartin still struggles to perform day-to-day activities such as going to the supermarket or a café and driving a car, and is unable to physically exert himself beyond being on an exercise bike.”

Following consultation with his doctors and specialists, Paddy McCartin has been placed on St Kilda's long-term injury list 'Shell of a person': Saint's heartbreaking admission on concussion battle - AFL.com.au

Yes, from that, it seems that Paddy already has had enough concussions and it's probably reached the stage that full recovery is unlikely. Therefore, it seems that the most sensible option is retirement, as there is a strong chance that more football, will inflict further cumulative damage on a brain that appears not to have regenerated from previous concussions.

Also, in past concussion discussions, I meant to post this handy summary, but I never quite got around to it. For those interested, it's a fairly easy read, starting with 'What Is Concussion' and then going through various aspects of concussion (when you click on the links).

What is concussion? - Queensland Brain Institute - University of Queensland

Along similar lines, this gives a good description of how concussions can develop into the more problematic Chronic Traumatic Encephalopathy.

The Science of CTE | Concussion Legacy Foundation

[dejavoodoo44]

Heartbreaking loss for Brisbane by one point, kicked by Michael Walters after the siren. The Lions were 10 points up with 5 minutes to go but seemed to have run out of legs. Their defenders were under siege for the remaining time.

I only saw most of the first quarter and most of the last. Charlie Cameron was excellent in the first. Hill and Wilson were excellent in the last.

[Sandridge]

I know Damian Barrett isn't the most popular guy on RWO but I like that he's drawn attention to the fact that the Bulldogs are possibly heading towards a third year of non-finals after winning a premiership.

Barrett: The 40-year drought Dogs don't want to break - AFL.com.au

[bloodspirit]

Thanks Sandridge. I don't like Barrett but I consider him relevant. He's well connected and a relatively responsible reporter (the bar is low among footy media). It's his personal style and his opinions that I don't take to, especially how highly he rates his own opinions. All in all it's pretty much the same way I feel about Mike Sheahan, relevant but way too self-important.

Also, I like this type of column*, where there is commentary and editorial about some bigger issues and trends beyond just what happened in the game on the weekend and the news of the day , not just reporting (or, too often, "reporting"). This format, with a smidge more analysis and depth, is preferable to 'Sliding Doors' which, as liz has pointed out, is so often inane. That's the same reason I prefer Caro for serious commentary. (I like Titus for the more light hearted variety of commentary, although he's gone off the boil a bit this year).

[Ruck'n'Roll]

I similarly find Barrett a less than engaging character, but he gets a tick as there are so few actual journalists around these days.

I do not rate the cut-and-paste artists that simply regurgitate club media releases (or press briefings), nor the irredeemable plagiarists, and the majority of the ex footballers spend far too much time pumping egos to say anything worth-while.

[stevoswan]

Thanks Sandridge. I don't like Barrett but I consider him relevant. He's well connected and a relatively responsible reporter (the bar is low among footy media). It's his personal style and his opinions that I don't take to, especially how highly he rates his own opinions. All in all it's pretty much the same way I feel about Mike Sheahan, relevant but way too self-important.

Also, I like this type of column*, where there is commentary and editorial about some bigger issues and trends beyond just what happened in the game on the weekend and the news of the day , not just reporting (or, too often, "reporting"). This format, with a smidge more analysis and depth, is preferable to 'Sliding Doors' which, as liz has pointed out, is so often inane. That's the same reason I prefer Caro for serious commentary. (I like Titus for the more light hearted variety of commentary, although he's gone off the boil a bit this year).

I agree on Titus.....he has lost some of his 'edge'. I even had a go at him over his assessment of the Rampe 'goalpost' incident. He was harping on about it like a Victorian dick, saying Essendon should have been awarded a free kick to win the game. I acknowledged that he usually has a common sense 'national' viewpoint and told him he just sounds like a Vic-centric sook in this case. His attitude was disappointing and smacked of 'jumping on the populist bandwagon'. It wasn't a good look for his credibility......

[barry]

I know Damian Barrett isn't the most popular guy on RWO but I like that he's drawn attention to the fact that the Bulldogs are possibly heading towards a third year of non-finals after winning a premiership.

Barrett: The 40-year drought Dogs don't want to break - AFL.com.au

That article is an article of spite, and spite only.

What an obscure angle this "40-year-drought" rubbish. We had a top 4, 40 years ok. Back then finishing 5th was missing the finals. Its obvious Barrett had to dig deep in the barrel to find something negative about Beveridge.
No wonder coaches hate the media.

[stevoswan]

That article is an article of spite, and spite only.

What an obscure angle this "40-year-drought" rubbish. We had a top 4, 40 years ok. Back then finishing 5th was missing the finals. Its obvious Barrett had to dig deep in the barrel to find something negative about Beveridge.
No wonder coaches hate the media.

Spiteful it may be but it has merit.....Beveridge is an average coach whose 'success' only came about because a bunch of romantic cheats who call themselves the AFL, gifted him a flag his team didn't deserve....in fact, they gifted him an entire finals series.

The fact that they haven't even made the finals since, no doubt devalues their 'premiership' and will continue to do so more, every year they don't. Even hardened Bulldogs fans must be feeling a bit like frauds now....as they rightfully should.