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  • Mark26
    Senior Player
    • Jan 2017
    • 1535

    #31
    Here are my changes:
    Menzel in for Hayward
    McVeigh into defence and which pushes Mills into the mids for JK

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    • barry
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 8499

      #32
      Mensel and grassy knoll in.
      McVeigh can stay well away.

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      • 0918330512
        Senior Player
        • Sep 2011
        • 1654

        #33
        Originally posted by barry
        Mensel and grassy knoll in.
        McVeigh can stay well away.
        Brodie Grundy or Max Gawn are probably the only 2 ruckmen you’d recruit on a Monday and slot straight into the side the following Saturday. For an away trip to Geelong, no less. And you want a guy that was essentially needed almost 150 in this years draft, and less than 3 years experience at SANFL level to step up?

        And injuries aside, Macca is easily in our best 22. If he breaks, he’s one injury closer to retirement and putting a smile on your face. Injury free he helps marshal our inexperienced defence. If he’s ready, play him. He adds value. If he breaks, apart from it being sad for him, we are no worse off next week.

        Menzel is a slightly more sensible suggestion, although he’s played less than 2 games of minutes on the ground since the season started.

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        • barry
          Veterans List
          • Jan 2003
          • 8499

          #34
          Grassy knoll has to play. He has been tearing it up at SANFL level which is way above NEAFL. He couldn't do worse than poor old sinkers.

          And on McVeigh, our defense has been fine without him, and if you pick him, it's only displacing a youngster. He needs to do a rhyse Shaw and coach from the 2's

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          • BRISWAN
            Warming the Bench
            • Aug 2005
            • 304

            #35
            McVeigh is a proven performer in the backs and organises the group

            Not sure the backs are going as well as some suggest, as we are in the wrong end of points against us.

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            • AnnieH
              RWOs Black Sheep
              • Aug 2006
              • 11332

              #36
              Originally posted by barry
              Grassy knoll has to play. He has been tearing it up at SANFL level which is way above NEAFL. He couldn't do worse than poor old sinkers.

              And on McVeigh, our defense has been fine without him, and if you pick him, it's only displacing a youngster. He needs to do a rhyse Shaw and coach from the 2's
              Sit down everyone.
              I'm agreeing with Barry.
              Wild speculation, unsubstantiated rumours, silly jokes and opposition delight in another's failures is what makes an internet forum fun.
              Blessed are the cracked for they are the ones who let in the light.

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              • barry
                Veterans List
                • Jan 2003
                • 8499

                #37
                Originally posted by AnnieH
                Sit down everyone.
                I'm agreeing with Barry.
                Sound logic always wins in the end.

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                Originally posted by BRISWAN
                McVeigh is a proven performer in the backs and organises the group

                Not sure the backs are going as well as some suggest, as we are in the wrong end of points against us.
                You could have said the same about Grundy. Time to move on.

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                • Blood Fever
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 4051

                  #38
                  Originally posted by barry
                  Sound logic always wins in the end.

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                  You could have said the same about Grundy. Time to move on.
                  Could spend time midfield/forward

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                  • Mr Magoo
                    Senior Player
                    • May 2008
                    • 1255

                    #39
                    You need to have a balance of experience with youth. I dont think it benefits the team or the young players themselves for them all to be thrown in the deep end together.

                    If it makes sense to bring McVeigh in to the team for that balance then I would trust that this is the decision that is made. We shouldnt just discount every senior player on the basis that they are taking the place of a younger player.

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                    • jono2707
                      Goes up to 11
                      • Oct 2007
                      • 3326

                      #40
                      With JPK out for a few weeks, someone has to look after the kids. For as much as we love him, Rampe has been a bit of a drunk uncle lately and I don't think we can trust him 100% to run the ship. McVeigh comes straight back in IF he's good to go.

                      Edit: Not saying Dane hasn't been playing great, but his brain explosions have been a bit of a worry...

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                      • Markwebbos
                        Veterans List
                        • Jul 2016
                        • 7186

                        #41
                        Originally posted by jono2707
                        With JPK out for a few weeks, someone has to look after the kids. For as much as we love him, Rampe has been a bit of a drunk uncle lately and I don't think we can trust him 100% to run the ship. McVeigh comes straight back in IF he's good to go.

                        Edit: Not saying Dane hasn't been playing great, but his brain explosions have been a bit of a worry...
                        #IStandWithDane

                        I think it has now been established that (1) Dane didn't give away a free-kick when attempting to climb the post against Essendon (2) the 50m penalty to Chris Mayne was borderline at best.

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                        • waswan
                          Senior Player
                          • Oct 2015
                          • 2047

                          #42
                          Let Ramps kick in, i dont reckon Lloyd or McVeigh can kick 45m

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                          • wolftone57
                            Veterans List
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 5861

                            #43
                            I prefer players to prove their fitness in the reserves. Sick of this two tier system. Players like Macca etc getting a free pass. It sends the wrong message. Menzell came back through the reserves and so should Macca. He has been out for 7 week ffs. That is a long time and his match fitness will be 0-40%. He will need and appreciate the run at the lower level.

                            I certainly believe we need a mix of youth and experience but not at the expense of a fully fit and competitive unit. We took unfit players into the 2014 and the 2016 GFs. We haven't learnt from that unfortunately. We need to learn the lesson that to play players who are not match fit penalises the team.

                            In saying we need youth and experience we are in a rebuilding or redevelopment year. We have been for several seasons really. We have drafted and then slowly developed players over a period of years. This policy is now starting to pay dividends with the form of Hewee, Lloydy, McCartin (allowing Reid to get less pressure), Blakey, Heeney & Co. Our kids are developing well and the reserves are starting to gel too. Some of the kids in the Twos who are impressing are: Foot, Amarty, Pink, Bell, Rowbottom, Stoddart, Wicks, Cameron and Rose. Ling is being Brought on slowly with managed minutes but in the second half last week he showed glympses of why we drafted him. Clever little bugger who runs at 100% efficiency.

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                            • Melbourne_Blood
                              Senior Player
                              • May 2010
                              • 3312

                              #44
                              Originally posted by Markwebbos
                              #IStandWithDane

                              I think it has now been established that (1) Dane didn't give away a free-kick when attempting to climb the post against Essendon (2) the 50m penalty to Chris Mayne was borderline at best.
                              Not sure a captain of a club should be engaging in borderline activities or goal post climbing in the dying moments of tight contests though . Needs to settle down a bit . Form good, just cut out the weird stuff that has the potential to cost us games .


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                              • RogueSwan
                                McVeigh for Brownlow
                                • Apr 2003
                                • 4602

                                #45
                                Macca will gain nothing by playing in the magoos.
                                In the seniors an experienced head can make a huge difference, especially to a young and, on average, inexperienced side.
                                And even though Macca not be fleet of foot anymore the way he can move through traffic is generally smooth and controlled. He doesn't tend to handball/kick to a teammate under immediate pressure.
                                "Fortunately, this is the internet, so knowing nothing is no obstacle to having an opinion!." Beerman 18-07-2017

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