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  • 707
    Veterans List
    • Aug 2009
    • 6204

    #16
    Originally posted by Captain
    Handballing to someone putting them under extreme pressure is still counted as 'efficient' so totally useless to quote stats like these.

    Clarke panics when he has the ball and dishes off quickly to the nearest person.

    I would much rather him try and take the game on and back himself.
    Please watch a game replay, only a couple of those when he was under pressure to release, all players have those or they get done HTB.

    Thanks for the DE stats

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    • Mel_C
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 4470

      #17
      Clarke's problem is that he has a really weird handballing technique. It's like he is throwing and handballing at the same time. It was pointed out by Healy in the preseason and now I can't stop seeing it!

      By the way it is his 50th game this week (if he plays).

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      • Auntie.Gerald
        Veterans List
        • Oct 2009
        • 6483

        #18
        In soccer and afl u are taught from a very young age to look over you shoulder as you are moving towards a contest or a pass

        The reason u do this is so you know what is behind you and you can make a great decision with the ball under pressure

        Clarke never ever looks over his shoulder before the contest or receiving the ball

        He is improving in his role most weeks but his see ball get ball still drives me nuts

        But I do remember JPK being pretty ordinary in his games at the hawks prior to joining

        We can afford to be patient this season I suppose
        "be tough, only when it gets tough"

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        • The Runner
          Regular in the Side
          • May 2017
          • 718

          #19
          What on earth has happened to Will Haywards efficiency when kicking at goal?
          He's below 50% this year - not sure on his status but would have expected him to be in the low 60s previous years. Feels like he's the most unreliable kick in the forward line (at least when Ronke is out).

          His 3 goal assists for the year are equally underwhelming.

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          • caj23
            Senior Player
            • Aug 2003
            • 2462

            #20
            Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
            In soccer and afl u are taught from a very young age to look over you shoulder as you are moving towards a contest or a pass

            The reason u do this is so you know what is behind you and you can make a great decision with the ball under pressure

            Clarke never ever looks over his shoulder before the contest or receiving the ball

            He is improving in his role most weeks but his see ball get ball still drives me nuts

            But I do remember JPK being pretty ordinary in his games at the hawks prior to joining

            We can afford to be patient this season I suppose
            Huh? That's a new one to me AG.

            How do you look over your shoulder if you're sprinting forward?

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            • Bloods05
              Senior Player
              • Oct 2008
              • 1641

              #21
              Originally posted by caj23
              Huh? That's a new one to me AG.

              How do you look over your shoulder if you're sprinting forward?
              I've never seen Nick Blakey looking over his shoulder.

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              • Mel
                Regular in the Side
                • Jul 2005
                • 883

                #22
                Originally posted by The Runner
                What on earth has happened to Will Haywards efficiency when kicking at goal?
                He's below 50% this year - not sure on his status but would have expected him to be in the low 60s previous years. Feels like he's the most unreliable kick in the forward line (at least when Ronke is out).

                His 3 goal assists for the year are equally underwhelming.
                That may be true, but his forward pressure has been outstanding. He's still young, perhaps he's been told to concentrate on that part of his game. The rest will come back.

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                Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                In soccer and afl u are taught from a very young age to look over you shoulder as you are moving towards a contest or a pass

                The reason u do this is so you know what is behind you and you can make a great decision with the ball under pressure

                Clarke never ever looks over his shoulder before the contest or receiving the ball

                He is improving in his role most weeks but his see ball get ball still drives me nuts

                But I do remember JPK being pretty ordinary in his games at the hawks prior to joining

                We can afford to be patient this season I suppose
                I don't know about physically looking over your shoulder, but you do get taught to have an awareness of what is around you. Clarke has astounding lack of it. He panics whenever he gets the ball. I wasn't the only one unimpressed with him at the game on the weekend - the guys in front of me AND behind me were quite vocal in their views as well.
                Life's not a spectator sport

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                • Ludwig
                  Veterans List
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 9359

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Auntie.Gerald
                  In soccer and afl u are taught from a very young age to look over you shoulder as you are moving towards a contest or a pass
                  I understand what happened. You just confused football with running from the cops. I found this to be a real problem, especially when the opposition team was decked out in blue.

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                  • Ralph Dawg
                    Senior Player
                    • Apr 2018
                    • 1729

                    #24
                    The team is going so well at the moment that it would be crazy to tinker with a winning combination. As such, McCartain in for Buddy is the least disruptive forced change. I'd be shocked if Sinclair doesn't get up but if he's out, then Darcy gets a run. If he's out, then it gets tricky, especially given Witts is a pretty decent ruck. Do you alternate Aliir and Reid? If so, who comes in then (Rowbottom, Stoddart or Fox)? Or do you risk Knolls given that would disturbed our overall structure the least (but he might get completely towelled up by Witts)?

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                    • chammond
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 1368

                      #25
                      Originally posted by Mel_C
                      Clarke's problem is that he has a really weird handballing technique. It's like he is throwing and handballing at the same time. It was pointed out by Healy in the preseason and now I can't stop seeing it!.
                      That’s it in a nutshell.
                      The essence of a good midfielder is simply to get to all the contests. Clarke is excellent at that. He tackles well, is a good mark, and a reasonable kick. But he handballs like a child, and that causes most of his clangers. However, that’s a technical issue that can be coached.
                      Clarke is young, and he has plenty of up-side; definite keeper.

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                      • Mel_C
                        Veterans List
                        • Jan 2003
                        • 4470

                        #26
                        Apparently McVeigh may be available this week. Surely it's too soon especially after a hammy and with his soft tissue injury history?

                        Cunningham is also training well and should be available for the week after.

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                        • giant
                          Veterans List
                          • Mar 2005
                          • 4731

                          #27
                          Originally posted by The Runner
                          What on earth has happened to Will Haywards efficiency when kicking at goal?
                          He's below 50% this year - not sure on his status but would have expected him to be in the low 60s previous years. Feels like he's the most unreliable kick in the forward line (at least when Ronke is out).

                          His 3 goal assists for the year are equally underwhelming.
                          He was almost a sure thing with his set shot kicking last year - he's been dreadful this year.

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                          • bloodspirit
                            Clubman
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 4448

                            #28
                            Originally posted by 707
                            Have to disagree, I watched him closely on replay and I don't reckon his disposal is any worse than a lot of our other players. He is often at the coalface where the heat and pressure is greatest so that limits exact disposal.

                            I think this has become an urban myth, we only see the disposals that he mucks up so it perpetuates he's a poor ball user. I haven't seen any stats (someone on here can quote them I'm sure), but I reckon his would look ok.
                            I agree with captain. Every time Clarke has the ball I feel nervous. I especially felt that way on Friday night. Still, I also agree with Markwebbos that he has other strengths. Long term he needs to improve not to be just warming a spot for Rowbottom.
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                            • Markwebbos
                              Veterans List
                              • Jul 2016
                              • 7186

                              #29
                              Longmire did give Clarke quite the backhanded compliment regarding his 50th game this week. We shouldn't overlook the impact his tagging is having on Hewett's game.

                              Key quotes: John Longmire - sydneyswans.com.au

                              “He’s come into the team and added some midfield depth to that group, and that’s been important for us. We’ve been without Josh Kennedy and Zak Jones for periods of time this year, so those guys going out of the team has meant we’ve needed some depth in that area, and Ryan has been able to provide that for us.”

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                              • Ralph Dawg
                                Senior Player
                                • Apr 2018
                                • 1729

                                #30
                                Looks like Harry and Macca might be a chance this week. If they are not 100%, sit them out for another week.

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