Changes for round 18 - Freo

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  • Melbourne_Blood
    Senior Player
    • May 2010
    • 3312

    #61
    Originally posted by lwjoyner
    why wont we challenge dawsons suspension
    Because he wouldn’t get off . Pretty puzzled everyone here thinks Dawson has no case to answer. The rules on choosing to bump and making head high contact are pretty clear . I admit some of the interpretations are murky but this one was pretty clear cut. I realise that there have been other offences that look worthy of suspensions that haven’t been viewed that way but the MRO, but to say they got the decision wrong this time is pushing it. They got it right , it’s all the other ones they’ve been getting wrong . Their inconsistency and interpretations, around striking in particular , are what is frustrating. Doesn’t mean Dawson didn’t deserve a week for that bump though .


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    • MattW
      Veterans List
      • May 2011
      • 4231

      #62
      Originally posted by Melbourne_Blood
      Because he wouldn’t get off . Pretty puzzled everyone here thinks Dawson has no case to answer. The rules on choosing to bump and making head high contact are pretty clear . I admit some of the interpretations are murky but this one was pretty clear cut. I realise that there have been other offences that look worthy of suspensions that haven’t been viewed that way but the MRO, but to say they got the decision wrong this time is pushing it. They got it right , it’s all the other ones they’ve been getting wrong . Their inconsistency and interpretations, around striking in particular , are what is frustrating. Doesn’t mean Dawson didn’t deserve a week for that bump though .


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      Yep.

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      • Mark26
        Senior Player
        • Jan 2017
        • 1535

        #63
        Menzel for Jack
        Clark for Ronke
        Stoddart for Dawson
        Knoll or Amartey for Cunningham

        We gain some experience with Menzel and Clark and lose some with Jack. I was at the game on Saturday and it was hard to spot Jack most of the time. He didn't impact the play and if you're bringing in a senior player, you would expect that they need to find the pill and use it effectively.

        Stodds has been playing well off half-back in the NEAFL for a while now and deserves another crack.

        I thought Knoll looked better in the ruck against Southport too. He was actually jumping into the contest and his work around the ground was good. Amartey was a little more athletic. It's time to push AA back into that intercept role in defence where he can dominate and leave Reid up forward for most of the game. Our structure has been a little off with AA in the ruck.

        I wouldn't be surprised if Fox was picked though. He had a pretty good game too.

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        • 707
          Veterans List
          • Aug 2009
          • 6204

          #64
          Someone has incorrectly posted on the "Changes for Essendon" thread, this is the thread for Freo this week.

          Be interesting to see if this weeks team is our youngest since .......

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          • caj23
            Senior Player
            • Aug 2003
            • 2462

            #65
            Originally posted by 707
            Someone has incorrectly posted on the "Changes for Essendon" thread, this is the thread for Freo this week.

            Be interesting to see if this weeks team is our youngest since .......
            That was me, it was in relation to Harry's selection in that game after an extended period out with a groin injury, which surprise surprise he has re-injured

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            • bloodspirit
              Clubman
              • Apr 2015
              • 4448

              #66
              Originally posted by 707
              Based on recent weeks NEAFL you would think Clarke & Stoddart are the likely ins to replace Cunningham & Superboot.

              They may still choose to bring in a ruckman so Aliir can go back to replace Dawson's recent role there, in which case Ronke would have to be the omission.

              But who knows, the MC completely fail to do what we suggest and we have poor results as a consequence, they need to listen!
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              • Meg
                Go Swannies!
                Site Admin
                • Aug 2011
                • 4828

                #67
                Originally posted by caj23
                That was me, it was in relation to Harry's selection in that game after an extended period out with a groin injury, which surprise surprise he has re-injured
                It’s a new injury - see report on Swans website.

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                • Sandrevan
                  Warming the Bench
                  • May 2016
                  • 355

                  #68
                  How about we just play a fit team. We've seen the MC hesitant to make changes other than forced changes through injury and/or suspension.

                  My predictions are
                  Outs: Dawson (suspended), Cunningham (injured)
                  Ins: Stoddart, Fox

                  If I was on the MC....

                  Outs: Dawson, Cunningham, Ronke, Hayward, Jack
                  Ins: Stoddart, Menzel, Clarke, Fox, Amartey

                  Ronke and Hayward are way down on form and are a liability. I have always liked Kieren as a player but father time has caught up.

                  I think we need a ruckman even though Sandliands could be out so Amartey gets the nod. He would be playing against a second ruckman and it would be good experience. Clarke to tag Fyfe as others have mentioned.

                  Last weeks selections made me think 'Swans are tanking' - we'll see what the MC throw up tonight.

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                  • Markwebbos
                    Veterans List
                    • Jul 2016
                    • 7186

                    #69
                    I think they’ll bring someone else in to ruck, even if it’s Fox! Although I think Knoll more likely now.

                    Wonder why they’d keep player Kizza. Ronke goes Horses pet stays.

                    OUT: Dawson, Cunningham, Ronke, Jack
                    IN: Stoddart, Fox, Clarke, Knoll

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                    • ugg
                      Can you feel it?
                      Site Admin
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 15976

                      #70
                      It's a debut for ....McLean! Considering he hasn't rucked in the last 2 weeks I don't think he's going to be taking over first ruck duties from Aliir?

                      In: Clarke, Fox, McLean, Stoddart
                      Out: Cunningham (injured), Dawson (suspended), Jack (omitted), Ronke (omitted)

                      Emg: Rose Ronke Jack Menzel

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                      • 707
                        Veterans List
                        • Aug 2009
                        • 6204

                        #71
                        Must be our youngest side since we were South Melbourne!

                        Wonder what they have in mind for McLean, maybe do the chop out ruck work so Reid can stay forward.

                        The four ins have been the best in the NEAFL so that's what I like to see, reward those performing. Ronke and Jack gave us nothing last week/s so has to be upside from their replacements. Clarke to tag Walters?

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                        • Markwebbos
                          Veterans List
                          • Jul 2016
                          • 7186

                          #72
                          Giving myself 3.5 out of 4 as I had Knoll as the ruck inclusion. They must think Maclean’s the least worst.

                          Still feel we are a chance against a Fyfe-less Freo

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                          • dejavoodoo44
                            Veterans List
                            • Apr 2015
                            • 8727

                            #73
                            Like the others above, I didn't see McLean coming. Which was because he's hardly been doing any rucking, rather than form. After his slow and injury hampered start to the season, his form has been increasingly on an upward trajectory, with his last game being his best for the club. Good luck to him.

                            The others were also deserved selections; especially Stoddart, who's been in excellent form. Looking forward to seeing if he can transfer that to the higher level.

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                            • Ludwig
                              Veterans List
                              • Apr 2007
                              • 9359

                              #74
                              This will be a noteworthy game regarding the value of ruckmen, with Freo having 3 and Swans selecting 0. The strange thing about McLean's selection is that Longmire usually likes to see a consistent body of work over an extended period of time yet McLean has only played a handful of games. It's baffling how McLean comes into the side after a couple of good, but not exceptional games, while Darcy Cameron couldn't a game last year even though he was the best player in the NEAFL.

                              It's sort of like the McInerney selection earlier this year when it just came out of the blue (almost). Just saying that others seemed more credentialed of the low credentialed lot. Anyway, looking forward to him proving he was worthy of selection.

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                              • stevoswan
                                Veterans List
                                • Sep 2014
                                • 8573

                                #75
                                Happy with those in's (and the two 'omissions').....and had a strange feeling about McLean but didn't have the guts to declare it here.

                                Stoddart was overdue, Fox has been solid in the two's and Clarke back in allows Hewitt freedom to influence the game more. McLean has been impressive in the two's and can clunk a mark. Will be good to see our structures back to more what they were like when we hit our winning patch.

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