#AFL Round 20 Giants v Swans Sat 3-Aug at GIANTS Stadium #AFLGiantsSwans @sydneyswans

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  • Ralph Dawg
    Senior Player
    • Apr 2018
    • 1729

    Originally posted by Swanny40519
    I agree. I thought Mills was poor today and in the first half couldn't pick up the ball and he just fumbled badly. Then when he did get a possession his turnovers killed us.
    I thought our defenders, including Mills did a great job. Remember, Mills was matched up against a bona fide, key position forward in Himmelberg. With all the inside 50s GWS had, he would expect to kick a bag full against Mills. Mills, with McCartain and Aliir helping, restricted him to only a handful of goals. He did fine playing out of position. And don't underestimate the rebound that came out of defensive end too - Mills was pretty instrumental in this too.

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    • barry
      Veterans List
      • Jan 2003
      • 8499

      I thought mills played great, especially in the second half.

      How did Rose ever end up with the no 1 jumper?

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      • liz
        Veteran
        Site Admin
        • Jan 2003
        • 16778

        I had Mills as my best for today (for us).

        Speaking of bests, I reckon Haynes was robbed of the overall BOG. Hopper was very good but without Haynes we win that game. He was immense.

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        • Blood Fever
          Veterans List
          • Apr 2007
          • 4050

          Originally posted by caj23
          Hopper and Mils both academy talent from the same draft rated relatively evenly at the time as inside mids

          Hopper is turning into an elite mid capable of turning a match, whilst Mills has developed into an ordinary to average defender.

          So frustrating that Longmire is blind to it
          Mills is an elite defender.

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          • Blood Fever
            Veterans List
            • Apr 2007
            • 4050

            Originally posted by troyjones2525
            He was asked to play on a talented young player who is listed as 194cm and 92 kgs... give the bloke a bit of a break!

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            Originally posted by Agent 86
            Simply a poor non-decision.


            Umps were okay. Not a whistle-fest. But that’s a 50 every day.
            Should have been 50 to Menzel but Reid didn't hang on to it for long enough

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            • Mel_C
              Veterans List
              • Jan 2003
              • 4470

              Originally posted by Blood Fever
              Should have been 50 to Menzel but Reid didn't hang on to it for long enough
              Reid's arm was pulled away so it should have been a free. It's not often you see Longmire do a Chris Scott in the box with his mouth open!

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              • KTigers
                Senior Player
                • Apr 2012
                • 2499

                Originally posted by liz
                I had Mills as my best for today (for us).

                Speaking of bests, I reckon Haynes was robbed of the overall BOG. Hopper was very good but without Haynes we win that game. He was immense.
                Yes, Haynes is a magnificent player, and has to be close to the best defender in the league. This is the second week in a row he has single
                handedly saved a game for GWS. Got to feel for Rose, he would be devastated after those two mistakes in the last quarter. He has been in
                the system for a long time now, and is probably just 5% off being a regular AFL player. I thought Mills did pretty well. Himmelberg is big and
                fast and does mind throwing his weight around, but was kept to just 12 touches and two goals.

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                • liz
                  Veteran
                  Site Admin
                  • Jan 2003
                  • 16778

                  Originally posted by KTigers
                  Got to feel for Rose, he would be devastated after those two mistakes in the last quarter. He has been in
                  the system for a long time now, and is probably just 5% off being a regular AFL player. I thought Mills did pretty well.
                  I can’t bring myself to feel for Rose. It’s not those two mistakes but the fact he did close to nothing else for the whole game. Heeney missed two easier shots that proved just as costly but I don’t suppose anyone is particularly irritated with him because of his overall contribution.

                  While he (Heeney) was busting a gut for four quarters, and regularly putting his body on the line, Rose was just meandering around, watching Giants players run past him. I thought his intensity was pretty decent in his first couple of senior games this year but the Essendon game and this don't support the idea that he has finally learned about the intensity required to play AFL football. He has the skills, sure, but he's either severely lacking in fitness or doesn't have the mental willingness to push through the effort barrier.

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                  • Nico
                    Veterans List
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 11339

                    Originally posted by Mel_C
                    Reid's arm was pulled away so it should have been a free. It's not often you see Longmire do a Chris Scott in the box with his mouth open!
                    Clearly on the replay his arm was pulled down. In slow mo you can see a solid 2 hand mark then his opponent drags down his left arm a long way. You also see the GWs player look towards the umpire with a look of dread. It was not close to a 50/50 decision. Then you see Reid desperately try to grab it low down as his arm was dragged to ground level. It was an absolutely gutless non call by the umpire, who wasn't prepared to put his goollies on the line in a tight finish. The non 50 metre call on Menzel was also a shocker. That is 50 metres every time.
                    http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                    • Nico
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                      • Jan 2003
                      • 11339

                      Originally posted by Agent 86
                      Tough audience.
                      I thought Mills was pretty good.
                      http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                      • Blood Fever
                        Veterans List
                        • Apr 2007
                        • 4050

                        Originally posted by troyjones2525
                        He was asked to play on a talented young player who is listed as 194cm and 92 kgs... give the bloke a bit of a break!

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                        Originally posted by Mel_C
                        Reid's arm was pulled away so it should have been a free. It's not often you see Longmire do a Chris Scott in the box with his mouth open!
                        Had a look at replay. Should have been a free

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                        • Nico
                          Veterans List
                          • Jan 2003
                          • 11339

                          You could argue that Heeney's 2 misses, the non 50 call and a poor second quarter were factors in our loss, but you can't argue the fact that the umpiring decision in the final moments was a match losing decision.
                          http://www.nostalgiamusic.co.uk/secu...res/srh806.jpg

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                          • Kumarangk
                            Warming the Bench
                            • May 2015
                            • 151

                            Originally posted by caj23
                            Hopper and Mils both academy talent from the same draft rated relatively evenly at the time as inside mids

                            Hopper is turning into an elite mid capable of turning a match, whilst Mills has developed into an ordinary to average defender.

                            So frustrating that Longmire is blind to it
                            Agree, and why was he always tripping over his feet? He can play quite steadily at times but once the pressure is applied by the good sides he ( IMO ) is found wanting.

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                            • Kafka's Ghost
                              Regular in the Side
                              • Sep 2017
                              • 904

                              Originally posted by Kumarangk
                              Agree, and why was he always tripping over his feet? He can play quite steadily at times but once the pressure is applied by the good sides he ( IMO ) is found wanting.
                              Mills played an excellent game, outside his weight division by a lot and keeping a man in form to two goals. He also had over 80% disposal efficiency.
                              The two non-decisions in the last few minutes were two of the worst I’ve seen, as they were crucial to the result and glaringly obvious. Reid’s mark was held for long enough, he had his left arm dragged down, and it is clear the GWS player thought he’d infringed also. The non-50m penalty against Menzel was just staggering.

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                              • caj23
                                Senior Player
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 2462

                                Originally posted by Blood Fever
                                Mills is an elite defender.
                                Please explain your criteria for elite?

                                He wouldn’t be ranked in the top 50 defenders in the league

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